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>Would anybody tell me how to get epsom salt? I looked the HFS near my home

>and could not find it.

>

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Try a large drugstore--- Longs or Walgreens or Payless--

someplace like that.

:) Moria

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One of the least expensive places to buy epsom salts is at Walmart. Just

about any drugstore or grocery store carries it.

Jan

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<< Would anybody tell me how to get epsom salt? I looked the HFS near my home

and could not find it.

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In Australia, we buy our epsom salt at our local produce store (they sell

horse/cattle saddlery stuff etc). We buy it in 10 kgs bags and have it in a

bucket near our bath with a 1 cup scoop in, ready to use.) It is very

inexpensive!

Would anybody tell me how to get epsom salt? I looked the HFS near my home

and could not find it.

Ping

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Most regular grocery stores also carry them, usually in the area with healthcare

items. Usually in milk carton type containers and generally on the top or

bottom shelf (it seems).

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>One of the least expensive places to buy epsom salts is at Walmart. Just

>about any drugstore or grocery store carries it.

>Jan

I just bought some on sale at " Rite Aid " -- $2.49 a box.

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supermarkets carry it.

[ ] Epsom salt

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> Would anybody tell me how to get epsom salt? I looked the HFS near my

home

> and could not find it.

>

> Ping

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also, you can buy Epsom Salts at pharmacies and stores like Target and

Walmart. It's less than $2 for a 1/2 gallon carton. They usually have it near

the medical supplies.

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I thought it was a wide range also. We started out with a half cup of

epsom salts in the bath everyother day for a week. Then half cup

everyday for a week. Then a full cup every day. Maybe we could have

gone faster, but I like to try, see if there is a reaction, then

increase. I'm not sure we will go to two cups. He is doing great on

one cup per day. Change is incredible. Very calming. He is six now,

but I wish someone had told me about this when he was 18 months and I

couldn't keep up with him. He was extremely active with a very short

attention span. Constantly doing things which could have hurt him,

like climbing up the bookshelves, pulling out drawers on dresser and

trying to climb up the drawers like steps. I had him in the back yard

one day and turned around and he had climbed over the chain link

fence into the neighbors yard and was scaling the fence to go into

the next neighbors yard. (All this at eighteen months)

Anyway, had we known about Epsom salts then, I think life would have

been a little easier for all of us.

Hope you have a similar effect.

Spencer's Mom,

> Hello,

> I'm fairly new here and had a question about Epsom salt baths.

First of all,

> let me tell you that I started my daughter - 4 next month, on

enzymes about

> 2 weeks ago. I'm having some problems with hyperactivity and

irritability at

> times. Mostly hyperactivity (she's hyper to begin with). She is

taking 1/2 a

> capsule a meal of broad spectrum type enzymes. She also gets a

cal/mag

> supplement and cod liver oil among others. Okay, now to the Epsom

salt baths

> ..I was reading the file here about it and it said to use 1-2 cups

in waist

> deep water or to start more gradual with as little as 1 tablespoon.

For

> those of you that have done this, what did you start out with?

That's such a

> wide range, I wondered what others did. Thanks in advance for your

help!

> Hope you all had a nice Moms' day.

> Janet

> Mom to Crystal

> developmental dyspraxia

>

>

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Does Magnesium Sulfate cream work as well as epsom salt baths?

Thank you,

Re: [ ] Re: DMSA & TTFD

Listmates,

If your child has been one of Andy's estimated 20% who have had problems

with TTFD, would you mind sharing more details with the rest of the group

about what else was true of your child (good experiences, bad experiences

with other supplements or treatments, or unusual lab reports)?

Thiamine is, of course, a sulfur compound and a vitamin, so it falls into

the territory of what we discuss on a different sort of internet list

called sulfurstories which I set up almost a year ago. I would be

delighted if some of you who have an interest in TTFD or other sulfur

supplements might like to share your experiences with TTFD on sulfurstories.

I think there is a chance that I have spotted the mechanism behind the

increased excretion of metals with TTFD. I posted about that on abmd

yesterday in a discussion with Dr. McCandless. The mechanism I found seems

to make sense as a way to explain the data that the DAN! group has

reported. If I am right, the thiamine in TTFD may not be acting as a

chelating agent, but instead, it may be having some profound effects on

trafficking issues...issues that have been documented in biological systems

but would not happen in a test tube without certain types of cells present.

PS. For those of you who haven't heard of the group called

sulfurstories, it was not set up to be an autism list or a chelation list,

so the purpose is very different from the list here. Sulfurstories is

designed for those with any condition who want to learn more about how the

sulfur system works and what happens when something about it goes wrong. We

learn there from each other by discussing experiences with sulfur

supplements and we try to correlate those observations with what has been

learned in the literature.

At 08:13 PM 1/10/2004 +0000, you wrote:

> > I know you say that TTFD is not a chelator, but does it help detoxify?

>

>No.

>

> > If yes, could the TTFD be used to enhance the DMSA and/or ALA?

>

>No.

>

> > If not, can you elaborate on why you think that it is harmful.

>

>Reports of about 20% of the people who try it of horrible long term

>worsenings of their children.

>

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I did a little experiment to see how much epsom salts was applied to the

skin if you made a solution like I did for my father and applied it over

the whole body as I did with him. It was many times greater a dose than in

the typical dose of the cream, but of course, that could be adjusted by

using more cream. We know nothing about how the cream part changes its

absorption.

Nobody has ever quantified how much gets in the blood how soon by any of

the techniques, but I have heard rumored that Dr. Waring is working on

that. I hope so!

At 07:14 AM 1/12/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>,

>

>Does Magnesium Sulfate cream work as well as epsom salt baths?

>

>Thank you,

>

>

> Re: [ ] Re: DMSA & TTFD

>

>

> Listmates,

>

> If your child has been one of Andy's estimated 20% who have had problems

> with TTFD, would you mind sharing more details with the rest of the group

> about what else was true of your child (good experiences, bad experiences

> with other supplements or treatments, or unusual lab reports)?

>

> Thiamine is, of course, a sulfur compound and a vitamin, so it falls into

> the territory of what we discuss on a different sort of internet list

> called sulfurstories which I set up almost a year ago. I would be

> delighted if some of you who have an interest in TTFD or other sulfur

> supplements might like to share your experiences with TTFD on

> sulfurstories.

>

> I think there is a chance that I have spotted the mechanism behind the

> increased excretion of metals with TTFD. I posted about that on abmd

> yesterday in a discussion with Dr. McCandless. The mechanism I found

> seems

> to make sense as a way to explain the data that the DAN! group has

> reported. If I am right, the thiamine in TTFD may not be acting as a

> chelating agent, but instead, it may be having some profound effects on

> trafficking issues...issues that have been documented in biological

> systems

> but would not happen in a test tube without certain types of cells present.

>

>

>

> PS. For those of you who haven't heard of the group called

> sulfurstories, it was not set up to be an autism list or a chelation list,

> so the purpose is very different from the list here. Sulfurstories is

> designed for those with any condition who want to learn more about how the

> sulfur system works and what happens when something about it goes

> wrong. We

> learn there from each other by discussing experiences with sulfur

> supplements and we try to correlate those observations with what has been

> learned in the literature.

>

>

> At 08:13 PM 1/10/2004 +0000, you wrote:

> > > I know you say that TTFD is not a chelator, but does it help detoxify?

> >

> >No.

> >

> > > If yes, could the TTFD be used to enhance the DMSA and/or ALA?

> >

> >No.

> >

> > > If not, can you elaborate on why you think that it is harmful.

> >

> >Reports of about 20% of the people who try it of horrible long term

> >worsenings of their children.

> >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >=======================================================

> >

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Re: [ ] Re: DMSA & TTFD

Listmates,

If your child has been one of Andy's estimated 20% who have had problems

with TTFD, would you mind sharing more details with the rest of the group

about what else was true of your child (good experiences, bad experiences

with other supplements or treatments, or unusual lab reports)?

Thiamine is, of course, a sulfur compound and a vitamin, so it falls into

the territory of what we discuss on a different sort of internet list

called sulfurstories which I set up almost a year ago. I would be

delighted if some of you who have an interest in TTFD or other sulfur

supplements might like to share your experiences with TTFD on sulfurstories.

I think there is a chance that I have spotted the mechanism behind the

increased excretion of metals with TTFD. I posted about that on abmd

yesterday in a discussion with Dr. McCandless. The mechanism I found seems

to make sense as a way to explain the data that the DAN! group has

reported. If I am right, the thiamine in TTFD may not be acting as a

chelating agent, but instead, it may be having some profound effects on

trafficking issues...issues that have been documented in biological systems

but would not happen in a test tube without certain types of cells present.

PS. For those of you who haven't heard of the group called

sulfurstories, it was not set up to be an autism list or a chelation list,

so the purpose is very different from the list here. Sulfurstories is

designed for those with any condition who want to learn more about how the

sulfur system works and what happens when something about it goes wrong. We

learn there from each other by discussing experiences with sulfur

supplements and we try to correlate those observations with what has been

learned in the literature.

At 08:13 PM 1/10/2004 +0000, you wrote:

> > I know you say that TTFD is not a chelator, but does it help detoxify?

>

>No.

>

> > If yes, could the TTFD be used to enhance the DMSA and/or ALA?

>

>No.

>

> > If not, can you elaborate on why you think that it is harmful.

>

>Reports of about 20% of the people who try it of horrible long term

>worsenings of their children.

>

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>=======================================================

>

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I am in Germany where Epsom Salts is of course an unknown term, it being

English in nature.

You have to ask for it here under its generic name " Magnesium Sulphate " .

Magnesium Sulphate is used here to clean out the gut and as the Germans say

" to give you the shits " ! As I order it in bulk..5 kilos at a time, I can

tell you it raises many eyebrows.

:-))

Re: [ ] Re: DMSA & TTFD

>

>

> Listmates,

>

> If your child has been one of Andy's estimated 20% who have had

problems

> with TTFD, would you mind sharing more details with the rest of the

group

> about what else was true of your child (good experiences, bad

experiences

> with other supplements or treatments, or unusual lab reports)?

>

> Thiamine is, of course, a sulfur compound and a vitamin, so it falls

into

> the territory of what we discuss on a different sort of internet list

> called sulfurstories which I set up almost a year ago. I would be

> delighted if some of you who have an interest in TTFD or other sulfur

> supplements might like to share your experiences with TTFD on

sulfurstories.

>

> I think there is a chance that I have spotted the mechanism behind the

> increased excretion of metals with TTFD. I posted about that on abmd

> yesterday in a discussion with Dr. McCandless. The mechanism I found

seems

> to make sense as a way to explain the data that the DAN! group has

> reported. If I am right, the thiamine in TTFD may not be acting as a

> chelating agent, but instead, it may be having some profound effects

on

> trafficking issues...issues that have been documented in biological

systems

> but would not happen in a test tube without certain types of cells

present.

>

>

>

> PS. For those of you who haven't heard of the group called

> sulfurstories, it was not set up to be an autism list or a chelation

list,

> so the purpose is very different from the list here. Sulfurstories is

> designed for those with any condition who want to learn more about how

the

> sulfur system works and what happens when something about it goes

wrong. We

> learn there from each other by discussing experiences with sulfur

> supplements and we try to correlate those observations with what has

been

> learned in the literature.

>

>

> At 08:13 PM 1/10/2004 +0000, you wrote:

> > > I know you say that TTFD is not a chelator, but does it help

detoxify?

> >

> >No.

> >

> > > If yes, could the TTFD be used to enhance the DMSA and/or ALA?

> >

> >No.

> >

> > > If not, can you elaborate on why you think that it is harmful.

> >

> >Reports of about 20% of the people who try it of horrible long term

> >worsenings of their children.

> >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >=======================================================

> >

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You can also ask for " Glaubersalz " or " Bittersalz " .

Dagmar.

I am in Germany where Epsom Salts is of course an unknown term, it being

English in nature.

You have to ask for it here under its generic name " Magnesium Sulphate " .

Magnesium Sulphate is used here to clean out the gut and as the Germans say

" to give you the shits " ! As I order it in bulk..5 kilos at a time, I can

tell you it raises many eyebrows.

:-))

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Haargenau...:-))

Re: [ ] Re: Epsom salt

> You can also ask for " Glaubersalz " or " Bittersalz " .

>

> Dagmar.

>

> I am in Germany where Epsom Salts is of course an unknown term, it being

> English in nature.

>

> You have to ask for it here under its generic name " Magnesium Sulphate " .

> Magnesium Sulphate is used here to clean out the gut and as the Germans

say

> " to give you the shits " ! As I order it in bulk..5 kilos at a time, I

can

> tell you it raises many eyebrows.

>

> :-))

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/11/2004 9:01:38 AM Central Standard Time,

sally.pain@... writes:

Just started using epsom salts to see if they help my son get to sleep as at

moment is awake until 2/3am.

Melatonin helps with sleep problems. You can order from the hypoallergenic

products from Kirkmans.

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How much did you use? I've read of other peole adding Bicarbonate of soda

to the ES in the bath to stop the itchies. My son used to have eczema, we put

organic coconut oil in the bath with him, makes it kind of slippy though :)

Mandi in UK

Just started using epsom salts to see if they help my son get to sleep as at

moment is awake until 2/3am. Put it in bath today and it made him itch like

mad. Eventually stopped the itching by soaping and showering again then a

soak in clear bath water. He has used it a couple of other times with no

reaction.

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Just started using epsom salts to see if they help my son get to sleep as at

moment is awake until 2/3am. Put it in bath today and it made him itch like

mad. Eventually stopped the itching by soaping and showering again then a soak

in clear bath water. He has used it a couple of other times with no reaction.

constipation

,

Thank you for the information regarding magnesium and encopresis. I

read the information and will take that into consideration.

To answer your questions, my son does get 400mg of soluable

magnesium citrate a day. I guess I should up his dose and see what

happens. I also include epsom salt in his bath each night.

He did not have a problem with constipation before the GF/CF diet.

He ate lots of granola, cereal and wheat bread. When we started the

diet he lost all the sources of fiber.

He does receive a calcium supplement each day, also. He gets 1000mg

of calcium carbonate & citrate.

I will also try out the suggestions on the site for encopresis.

Thank you,

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RE: the itching-- had he soaped up earlier in the bath and then

complained of the itching later on? What I find is that if the kids

use soap early in the bath, it seems to get scummy and then sticks to

their skin, or perhaps makes some of the not-quite-dissolved granules

stick to their skin. So I just make sure they do not soap off until

the end of the bath and then we have no itchy's.

W

> Just started using epsom salts to see if they help my son get to

sleep as at moment is awake until 2/3am. Put it in bath today and it

made him itch like mad. Eventually stopped the itching by soaping

and showering again then a soak in clear bath water. He has used it

a couple of other times with no reaction.

>

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I am sorry to hear that happend. A quart is a lot. It probably

stirred up more toxins that he was able to handle at once. Usually

just a 1/4 cup or so it says on the bag. Good to know this

potential reaction is there~.

>

> This is why we used Epsom salts but for the recipe we found it was

for a

> quart not a few cups. Next day my son was in his first ever

seizure and there

> was no found cause for him to have seizures at all,,,,,,,until

this day there

> are no causes for them. I do not recommend anyone using this

method. I truy

> feel it caused my son to develop seizures for whatever reason.

>

>

> Many doctors believe that autism is accompanied by bowel disorders

that make

> it difficult to absorb nutrients and to purge the body of wastes.

Sulfates,

> one of the major components of Epsom Salt, have been shown

effective in

> improving nutrient absorption and toxin elimination. Magnesium,

the other major

> component of Epsom Salt, has a demonstrated calming effect and

plays a role in

> the activity of more than 325 enzymes. Because both magnesium and

sulfates can

> be absorbed through the skin, many parents report that giving

their child a

> warm bath with 1-2 cups of dissolved Epsom Salt just before

bedtime helps

> extend the child's sleep cycle and ease digestive function.

>

>

>

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> In the files it is recommended to take a epsom salt bath three times

a week. If someone doesn't have a tub can soaking the feet in epsom

salt water detoxify. I have read somewhere that detoxification can

come out through the feet. (I hope that is worded to make sense)

==>Hi Jeanne. It wouldn't hurt to soak your feet in epsom salt

water. Hydrogen peroxide is more effective pulling out toxins through

the feet (see the Hydrogen Peroxide File for how much to use), or you

could use salt.

Cheers, Bee

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How do you identify if epsom salts in bulk have metals in them? Is

there a certain grade or identification on the packaging? I saw epsom

salt at Costco by Swan, great price, but wondered if it was good stuff.

Cheryl

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