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way to go speedy!! telling that lady off about asking quistions is the

only way kids are going to learn ive never told mine (dont stare unless i saw

that it did make the person uncomfortable my son joey had a friend in jersy

that checked the ids when we went in the commacery and he was in a chair cuz

of a diving accident joey would hang out with him while i shoped and he

learned a lot of good things from this man i want my boys to ask why and how

come that have to live in this world too the sooner the kids learn we all

look diffrent but most of us are the same in side the better we will all be

then there will not be as much (dont look) and (thay cant play with you thay

have a defect)kind of garbage thats still happining even in this so called

enlighted age well thamy 1/2 cent byby for now alice

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Hey Marie my boss is looking into getting me one of the cell phones for my

tdd and it is a NEXTEL phone and has a jack on the side that takes an adapter

for use with computer modems and tdd's it is same price as a normal phone

and I can use my existing tdd and as far as they say it is the same price as

thier other phones and the jack is now going to be standard. The bill will be

the same as if I were making a regular call

Getting even tanner but worried bout my rommie Pat

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Hi Mark ,

I think you are right on we are all afraid to make a fool out of

ourselves....so we either shy away from the handicapped or make a fool out of

ourselves trying not to make a fool out of our selves ...Did I say that right ?

:o) Well any way that's my two cents worth....

HUGS Lois

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>

> Hey Speedy, your right. I'm not saying that you are not less of a person or

> anything and maybe that they don't know how to approach a person with a

> handicapp. But why would they do things that make both os us look stupid?

>

> Ah well, or maybe it's just me, I'm a little sarcastic at times.

>

> Mark

>

> I would think that if

> we all (myself included) could say " i cannot walk, but yes " i can drive a

> car would educate, while allowing us to vent- speedy in humid Indy

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From: TonyRomero@...

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To: NF2_Crewonelist

Subject: Re: Crew ~ Why me?

Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:30:51 EDT

From: TonyRomero@...

HAHAHAHAHAH How's shows what you can do when you're assertive eh?

Damn, if we speak loud enough, perphaps we will be heard. So I guess Tony

must've yelled? HAHA Way to go, Tony!!

Mark

An hour after he left, the manager called and

upgraded us to a suite w/ a jaccuzi tub, balcony, fabulous 180 degree view

of

the city, and a closed captioned 36 " T.V. Moral---be assertive.

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In a message dated 5/16/99 7:45:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

alan.gordon@... writes:

<< " " Why is it that when a deaf person speaks nobody listens? Automatically

when

>somebody finds out your deaf they think your stupid. >>

The hotel we stayed in while on vacation in L.A., did not have a closed

captioned T.V. in our room, although we specifically requested it when we

made the reservation. After an hour and 3 phone calls to the desk, I went

there in person to speak to the manager. They said they were looking for the

" special box " that would make the bed vibrate when the phone rang. I told

them I didn't want a vibrating bed, and can hear the phone just fine. I

sugessted they just replace the TV in the room w/a difrent one that had

closed captioning---they didn't believe me and sent a maintenence guy to play

w/the remote for a half hour. Finaly, I said " look pal, the remote doesn't

make the TV have captioning no matter how many buttons you push, it's an old

TV, just swap it w/another one. An hour after he left, the manager called and

upgraded us to a suite w/ a jaccuzi tub, balcony, fabulous 180 degree view of

the city, and a closed captioned 36 " T.V. Moral---be assertive.

TR

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In a message dated 5/18/99 10:05:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

mark_sarmac@... writes:

<< Damn, if we speak loud enough, perphaps we will be heard. >>

Got no problem speaking

TR

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Tony hit the nail on the head. Its easy to depend on others to provide for

us, but we have to stand up and be heard. Our closed captions went off a

couple of weeks ago. I complained to my husband and asked him to call our

cable company about it. A day went by and I asked " Did you call the cable

company? " Yes, he did... but the cable guy was clueless. I got the

impression that NO ONE was taking the fact that our TV was totally

inaccessible to me seriously. So the next day, the cable guy was supposed

to come out in the morning and I stayed home all morning waiting for him.

He never showed up. The NEXT day, I was livid! At lunch time, before I

went back to work I blew up... I told my husband if the sound went off,

he'd have someone out there to fix it that day, but just because the

captions were off, its not a big deal! I told him if he didn't have them

out there this afternoon, I was going to call and cancel the cable all

together. When I got home from work, the captions were back. Something on

the antenna on our roof had come unplugged and the cable company had never

had it happen before. I hated to have to blow up, but it was the only way

to get results. I didn't call myself, because you know how much of a

hassle it is to call service companies by relay. I figured we'd have

better results if my husband called... but I think I was wrong. We have to

be assertive and demand accomodation and it will never be as important to

anyone else as it is to us.

na

At 12:30 PM 5/18/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: TonyRomero@...

>

>TV, just swap it w/another one. An hour after he left, the manager called

and

>upgraded us to a suite w/ a jaccuzi tub, balcony, fabulous 180 degree view

of

>the city, and a closed captioned 36 " T.V. Moral---be assertive.

>

>TR

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In a message dated 5/18/99 7:39:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

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<< What kind

of TDD do you have, is it a portable TDD that plugs into the cell phone? I

have a

cellular phone, I think it's a Motorla but I doubt that it has such a jack;

so

who will you carrier be and how much will the phone cost? Would it be then

if

you have a portable TDD and a cellular phone you could call if car breaks

down,

etc?? Man with my pager, a cellular phone, TDD, etc. I may have to start

carrying a suitcase--at the very least I am going to have to get a BIG purse!

Let us know as soon as you hear about Pat. Marie

>>

Okay I'm not who you asked but I can answer this

The Motorola Bag Phone Handset fits into the acoustic couplers of the

UltraTec " Compact TTY "

You can get an Accessory through your Cellular Provider for almost all

handheld phones that recreates an RJ-11 jack (wall phone outlet) complete

with dial tone. So if you have a TTY that plugs into the wall, it'd plug into

this jack and work with your cellular. The accesory is kinda pricey, about

$200 from Motorola and it's a little box with a cable that plugs into your

phone.

Pete

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In a message dated 5/18/99 8:20:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

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<< Appreciate your reply as I am technologically disabled! This is a dumb

question,

but how big is a portable TTY? So I need to buy a portable TTY for how

much? plus

the adapter for about $200? Am thinking of this vs. something like Wyndtel;

you

would have cellular phone fee monthly vs. wnndtel fee monthly? And an

output of

maybe $400 for Wyndtel vs. how much for portable TtY and adapter? It is

probably

a lot quicker to make a VCO call with a cellular phone that send a text e

mail

with wyndtel; however how about carrying it with you? I am thinking you

might

carry the wydtel, but wonder if you would want to carry a bag phone and a

portable

TTY? I am sure there are plus and minus that I don't know about, but sure

appreciate your input/suggestions. Marie >>

Alot of it depends on what you want to use it for. Keep in mind the Wyndtel

while it is two way, it's sorta like email. You can only have a

" conversation " by sending messages back and forth. It's not a phone.

I think there was someone on here who has a WyndTel and the system Earl

mentioned is basically the same thing.

a portable TTY is about $200, if you look in Soundbytes (www.soundbytes.com)

they have whole setups, the Phone and Everything. I would *not* recommend

buying the phone from them because you usually get the phone for next to

nothing from the cellular provider when you sign up for a plan.

Pete

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<< WyndTel >>

Pete,

Can you point me to a web site maybe that has info on this....I just wanna

check it out and see how it compares w/what I have.

-Earl

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PuppyYawn@... writes:

<< Can you point me to a web site maybe that has info on this....I just wanna

check it out and see how it compares w/what I have.

>>

www.wynd.com I beleive :) (I looked at the site for what you have, and it's

the same device)

Pete

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Yeah, I am worried about your roomie too; that darn guy doesn't have any extra

pounds on his body to give up! I sure hope he gets rid of the pain. What kind

of TDD do you have, is it a portable TDD that plugs into the cell phone? I have

a

cellular phone, I think it's a Motorla but I doubt that it has such a jack; so

who will you carrier be and how much will the phone cost? Would it be then if

you have a portable TDD and a cellular phone you could call if car breaks down,

etc?? Man with my pager, a cellular phone, TDD, etc. I may have to start

carrying a suitcase--at the very least I am going to have to get a BIG purse!

Let us know as soon as you hear about Pat. Marie

ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

> From: ADRENHLIN@...

>

> Hey Marie my boss is looking into getting me one of the cell phones for my

> tdd and it is a NEXTEL phone and has a jack on the side that takes an adapter

> for use with computer modems and tdd's it is same price as a normal phone

> and I can use my existing tdd and as far as they say it is the same price as

> thier other phones and the jack is now going to be standard. The bill will be

> the same as if I were making a regular call

>

> Getting even tanner but worried bout my rommie Pat

>

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Appreciate your reply as I am technologically disabled! This is a dumb

question,

but how big is a portable TTY? So I need to buy a portable TTY for how much?

plus

the adapter for about $200? Am thinking of this vs. something like Wyndtel; you

would have cellular phone fee monthly vs. wnndtel fee monthly? And an output of

maybe $400 for Wyndtel vs. how much for portable TtY and adapter? It is

probably

a lot quicker to make a VCO call with a cellular phone that send a text e mail

with wyndtel; however how about carrying it with you? I am thinking you might

carry the wydtel, but wonder if you would want to carry a bag phone and a

portable

TTY? I am sure there are plus and minus that I don't know about, but sure

appreciate your input/suggestions. Marie

PeteEMT@... wrote:

> From: PeteEMT@...

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> In a message

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At 11:45 AM 5/18/99 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>Tony hit the nail on the head. Its easy to depend on others to provide for

>us, but we have to stand up and be heard. Our closed captions went off a

>couple of weeks ago. I complained to my husband and asked him to call our

na:

Right on! You hit the nail on the head too!

Sherry

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www.wyndtell.com

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In a message dated 5/18/99 8:26:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

PeteEMT@...

writes:

<< WyndTel >>

Pete,

Can you point me to a web site maybe that has info on

this....I just wanna

check it out and see how it compares w/what I have.

-Earl

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In a message dated 5/19/99 9:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

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<< One more question, before you mentioned a " bag phone " ; I have a cellular,

not a bag phone, not a flip phone; I think it's a Motorola; would I be

able to buy a adapter for that, and then just buy the TTY? So now that I

think of it, your price invested ends up about the same, the two

questions are: The Wyndtel is probably something you can carry with you,

where as a portable TTY and phone would be good in the car, but you are

not likely to carry on your person? And the second question would be, as

you say, what do you want it for? Thanks Marie >>

Yes, those are basically the questions. And at least for me, the 3rd question

is where we will you use it. The Data Networks (that WyndTel and the System

Earl uses) generally work in or near metropolitan areas, if you live in the

sticks like I do. There is no coverage but there is cellular coverage.

A " bag phone " is like a cellular phone that gets installed permanately in the

car (has a handset like a normal phone basically) and it's connected to a

small bag about the size of a large purse that has the antenna, battery,

transmitter etc.

Pete

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One more question, before you mentioned a " bag phone " ; I have a cellular,

not a bag phone, not a flip phone; I think it's a Motorola; would I be

able to buy a adapter for that, and then just buy the TTY? So now that I

think of it, your price invested ends up about the same, the two

questions are: The Wyndtel is probably something you can carry with you,

where as a portable TTY and phone would be good in the car, but you are

not likely to carry on your person? And the second question would be, as

you say, what do you want it for? Thanks Marie

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In a message dated 5/19/99 7:20:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

writes:

<< That's a pretty deciding point; I mean I live in a rather urban area, but

sure as

shooting if my car breaks down, it will be when I am out in the sticks

somewhere,

so total reliability is what it is all about. You mentioned the bag phone

is in

the car; does this mean you cannot carry this phone with you, it is just for

in

the car? Sorry to be so thick. Marie

>>

Er may bad.. a Bag Phone is " like " a cellular phone thats installed

permanately in a car. Sorry for the confusion <g>

They are also called Transportable phones, they are from the pre-flip phone

days :)

Pete

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Hey Marie,

I often wonder about the same problem. I have a lot of night classess and my

car broke down at the parking lot. I had to ask assistance from two females

to call campus police and explain to them what had happened. Since there

wasn't many public TTYs that I knew of, I was stuck, so I was wondering

about the TTY that hooks up to a cell phone. But since technology is where

it is at today, is there a possibility of a laptop/tty/cellphone available

out there?

Just asking...

Mark

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To: NF2_Crewonelist

Subject: Re: Crew ~ Why me?

Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:39:41 -0400

That's a pretty deciding point; I mean I live in a rather urban area, but

sure as

shooting if my car breaks down, it will be when I am out in the sticks

somewhere,

so total reliability is what it is all about. You mentioned the bag phone

is in

the car; does this mean you cannot carry this phone with you, it is just for

in

the car? Sorry to be so thick. Marie

PeteEMT@... wrote:

> From: PeteEMT@...

>

> In a message dated 5/19/99 9:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mcdrew@...

> writes:

>

> << One more question, before you mentioned a " bag phone " ; I have a

cellular,

> not a bag phone, not a flip phone; I think it's a Motorola; would I be

> able to buy a adapter for that, and then just buy the TTY? So now that

I

> think of it, your price invested ends up about the same, the two

> questions are: The Wyndtel is probably something you can carry with

you,

> where as a portable TTY and phone would be good in the car, but you are

> not likely to carry on your person? And the second question would be,

as

> you say, what do you want it for? Thanks Marie >>

>

> Yes, those are basically the questions. And at least for me, the 3rd

question

> is where we will you use it. The Data Networks (that WyndTel and the

System

> Earl uses) generally work in or near metropolitan areas, if you live in

the

> sticks like I do. There is no coverage but there is cellular coverage.

> A " bag phone " is like a cellular phone that gets installed permanately in

the

> car (has a handset like a normal phone basically) and it's connected to a

> small bag about the size of a large purse that has the antenna, battery,

> transmitter etc.

>

> Pete

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That's a pretty deciding point; I mean I live in a rather urban area, but sure

as

shooting if my car breaks down, it will be when I am out in the sticks

somewhere,

so total reliability is what it is all about. You mentioned the bag phone is in

the car; does this mean you cannot carry this phone with you, it is just for in

the car? Sorry to be so thick. Marie

PeteEMT@... wrote:

> From: PeteEMT@...

>

> In a message dated 5/19/99 9:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

> writes:

>

> << One more question, before you mentioned a " bag phone " ; I have a cellular,

> not a bag phone, not a flip phone; I think it's a Motorola; would I be

> able to buy a adapter for that, and then just buy the TTY? So now that I

> think of it, your price invested ends up about the same, the two

> questions are: The Wyndtel is probably something you can carry with you,

> where as a portable TTY and phone would be good in the car, but you are

> not likely to carry on your person? And the second question would be, as

> you say, what do you want it for? Thanks Marie >>

>

> Yes, those are basically the questions. And at least for me, the 3rd question

> is where we will you use it. The Data Networks (that WyndTel and the System

> Earl uses) generally work in or near metropolitan areas, if you live in the

> sticks like I do. There is no coverage but there is cellular coverage.

> A " bag phone " is like a cellular phone that gets installed permanately in the

> car (has a handset like a normal phone basically) and it's connected to a

> small bag about the size of a large purse that has the antenna, battery,

> transmitter etc.

>

> Pete

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Mark for about 2500 you can get a nice laptop with a cellular modem and there

are several TDD programs for computers out there

tring to be patient with 3 days worth of mail

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Re: Crew ~ Why me?

>

>

> Speedy,

>

> I have no idea who you are, whether you are male or female etc :-), but

you

> have a very good attitude. alot of peoplewould be more negative ifthey ahd

to

> use a chair cane or whatever.

>

>

>

thanks cindy. for what its worth I am a guy.- speedy

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LOL, I thought you were a girl, women, or whatever!! haha, I am a dunce, your

comments dont reflect any feminity at all, so take thatthe wrong way

cindy

>

> >

> >

> thanks cindy. for what its worth I am a guy.- speedy

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