Re: I knew it

[Guest guest]

The mold depletes vitamin B2 in the body, according to some published studies.

It's the lack of B2 that causes the eye problems, at least that was my

experience. What worked for me in reversing the problem was riboflavin-5-

phosphate, the biologically active form of vitamin B2. I took it with P-5-P, the

biologically active form of B6 -- and also a good B complex to keep the Bs from

getting out of balance. I took the brand called Thorne -- that was the name that

worked for me, although there are probably others. Good luck. Hil

moldcankill <moldcankill@...> wrote: Last month I went to the eye

doctor because of black floaters and odd

changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold and all

the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in my

early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I think

it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.

How many other people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get

worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6

floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in

hearing from others who have this same problem.

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[Guest guest]

Always wondered what those things were I have gotten them occasionally

all of my life. Thought it was normal.

From what I read online they are little pieces of vitreous. Can also

be retinal detachment though.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:04:48 -0000, you wrote:

>Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters and odd

>changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold and all

>the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

>getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in my

>early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I think

>it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.

>

>How many other people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get

>worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6

>floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in

>hearing from others who have this same problem.

[Guest guest]

Antares: Floaters can also represent a symptom of early diabetes, mellitus II.

When you and the writer whom you answered observe the floaters you see, in

following them concentrating on the lenses of your eyes, one eye at a time, do

you see what appear as specks (or dots) lining down each side of the floater

itself? And, what other health symptoms are you experiencing as well?

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

DRH@...

@...: antares@...: Thu, 22

Mar 2007 01:32:03 -0400Subject: Re: [] I knew it

Always wondered what those things were I have gotten them occasionallyall of my

life. Thought it was normal.From what I read online they are little pieces of

vitreous. Can alsobe retinal detachment though.On Thu, 22 Mar 2007

02:04:48 -0000, you wrote:>Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black

floaters and odd >changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold

and all >the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

>getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in my >early

30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I think >it is this

Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.>>How many other people have this floaters problem?

Mine seems to get >worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many

as 6 >floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in

>hearing from others who have this same problem.

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same problem only 9 years later and can pass an eye test 20-10 vision. kathie

moldcankill <moldcankill@...> wrote: Last

month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters and odd

changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold and all

the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in my

early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I think

it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.

How many other people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get

worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6

floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in

hearing from others who have this same problem.

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I've had them for about 15 to 20 years and they have been getting worse. I saw

the Late Night Show with ny Carson a long time ago in which he explained

what he thought these floaters are. He said some fancy long name and said they

were normal so I did not/have not given it a second though until now. What can

be done?

In His Service,

Young <><

kathryn miller <klmiller2001_2002@...> wrote:

same problem only 9 years later and can pass an eye test 20-10 vision. kathie

moldcankill <moldcankill@...> wrote:

Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters and odd

changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold and all

the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in my

early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I think

it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.

How many other people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get

worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6

floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in

hearing from others who have this same problem.

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I will try to give a short account of whats been happening with my

eyes, but I did get a good look at it last night and it is the same

color as the eye in the link I posted below(case-final diagnoses).

I've also been exposed to A Fumgatis, but others that keep popping up

along this line to. fusarium,alterneria. I'm going to try to get a

picture of my eye on line to compare. I'll put something together and

post it in a little bit.

>

> Antares: Floaters can also represent a symptom of early diabetes,

mellitus II. When you and the writer whom you answered observe the

floaters you see, in following them concentrating on the lenses of

your eyes, one eye at a time, do you see what appear as specks (or

dots) lining down each side of the floater itself? And, what other

health symptoms are you experiencing as well?

>

> Doug Haney

> Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> DRH@...

>

>

>

>

> @...: antares@...: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:32:03 -

0400Subject: Re: [] I knew it

>

>

>

>

> Always wondered what those things were I have gotten them

occasionallyall of my life. Thought it was normal.From what I read

online they are little pieces of vitreous. Can alsobe retinal

detachment though.On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:04:48 -0000, you

wrote:>Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters

and odd >changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with

mold and all >the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I

was just >getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I

am in my >early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes

and I think >it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.>>How many other

people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get >worse if I go

into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6 >floaters in one

eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in >hearing from

others who have this same problem.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I dont think I would consider the black spots I had as floaters.

in my first house, with mainly stachy,in the last year(or so) of my

exposure my eyes were haveing a trouble focusing to read. is wasnt

bad,

kind of like my eyes couldn't deside if they wanted to be near

sighted or far sighted and sometimes it was blurry no matter what.(in

both homes I sometimes had little red spots on my eyelids along with

pressure felling around my eyes but it wasn't a constant thing but

makes me want to tie in vascular )

when I moved into the second home it got much worse, everything got

blurry all the time, my eyes watered constantly, the first house they

were dry. the second home is qere my brain went from milder type,

cognative issues to(in first home) to memory loss from brain swelling

and csf leaking from my ears and nose, I anyway, the black spots did

not start there until I closed up the windows and turned on the

central air, that also when I started throwing up several times a day

and my brain went haywire and csf leaking became much worse. this is

when I started seeing black spots. I dont recall them floating around

like one black spot floating., black spots would accure than

disappear, it was many black spots and they would disappear and more

would come. in a random patteren. after I got out of that place and

moved back into my first place, they presisted there but went to just

one black spot here and there, more in the corner of my eyes. I

remember because they often scared me because I would think that

someone or something was there. but it was just the black spot . it

wasn't really like a flash either, they would stay a few seconds than

disappear.

no dought that I was cross contaimating both places. so anyway,

knowing it was toxic molds in the second house, I realized that thats

what it may be in my first home and have it tested.

after I get out of the first home the spots stopped. but blurryness

and seeing double or more of things didn't, but I was still getting

exposure to some level from what few belongings I had brought with me.

at that time I had no clue that I had mcs. but later realized that

my vision got worse when something was getting to me, but with mcs

hits its the blurriness that gets worse. now that I really think

about it and I've been wearing the cheep dallor store magnifing

glasses and when I take them off I can look at a tiny light and

theres about eight of them or more and they make a upsidedown U

shape. going down the road at night the oncomeing car lights look

like the out line of two x-mas trees.(no, I'm not driving like that)

the glasses correct this and right now as I take them off, I see

double words,one under the other. the fogginess is bad today and can

hardly see what I'm typing.

the fogginess may be seperate from what happens with mcs and may be

more related to pressure from sinuses around the eyes. this is what

confuses me. if this is cataracts why does the fogginess get better

than worse? wouldn't it just continuely get worse? now I can no

longer see anything out of my left eye, except to tell light from

dark. but before it got that way it did the same as my right eye is

doing now. (my sinus problems are also worse on the left side)

usually when I first get up is when my right eye is the foggest,

sometimes it clears up some other times it doesn't. at the same time

its getting worse as in it doest want to clear up, and lately it's

foggy alot, but still, once in a while it is pretty clear.

now that my left eye is like it is, I have realized that sinus

pressure makes it hurt and a sometimes I've had horrable stabbibg

pains along the left side of my head that go in behind my eye. which

I want to say are sinus migrane type involvement. and laying on one

side or the other causes more pressure on that side that I'm laying

on. glaucoma talks about pressure but not cataracts, but glacoma can

cause cataracts but if its cataracts why would the fogginess be

better sometimes and worse others? even with my left eye being so bad

it still seems to still be worse sometimes or better. thats why I am

not convienced that it is cataracts and finding that case-final

diagnoses article makes me even more convienced but I cant find a

doctor who cares enough to find out and I dont know how much longer I

well see out of my right eye.

hope this is readable and not as confuseing as I am right now.

>Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black

floaters

> and odd >changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with

> mold and all >the consequent health problems. The doctor said that

I

> was just >getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging

(I

> am in my >early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes

> and I think >it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.>>How many

other

> people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to get >worse if I go

> into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6 >floaters in

one

> eye - I usually only see one. I would be interested in >hearing

from

> others who have this same problem.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

P.S I've been tested for diabeties because my brother has it,

hyperthyroidism because my mom has that. negative on both.

In , " who " <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

>

>

[Guest guest]

the time in that second home is kindof blurry to me, after thinking

about it more, the black spots there may of had a kind of floating in

to my view than would disappear. I remember also seeing a few white

spots but mostly black. back in the first home though I remember the

black spots would just appear and than disappear mostly in the

corners of eye vision and I know for sure there was nothing floating

about them.

>

[Guest guest]

I got some in my left eye when I was only in my 30's during a period

of stress in which I had insomnia. I thought I heard they were a

sign of a tiny stroke in eye, i.e. a blood vessel breaking but I

can't find anything that says that now. I also now have a tiny line

or two which I think is some fiberglass I got in my eyes while in

attic. They are only in left eye looks like tiny black specs (about

2-3), like pepper, and one that looks like a tiny bubble. I don't

notice them too much but have alot of trouble with my vision.

This says you can have them removed by laser if they are *really*

bothering you. Mine are not but here is link to info:

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16886002/>

>

> Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters and

odd

[Guest guest]

I get worse floaters with exposure - the doctor thinks

I'm crazy-

Val

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug,

I haven't noticed specks or dots- I will try and see

if they are there. I have noticed that they almost

appear in fungal hyphae looking forms-

Val

[Guest guest]

I AM IN MY MID 30'S AND I STARTED GETING FLOATERS AFTER MY EXPOSURE

ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO... I FIRST THTOUGHT IT WAS JUST MY EYES SIGHT

GETTING WORSE BECAUSE I WEAR CONTACTS BUT I NOW KNOW IT'S THE

MOLD.... MY DAUGHTER, SINCE THE EXPOSURE, NOW WEARS GLASSES AND SHE

HAD PERFECT VISION.... YET THESE DOCTORS DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO

ANYONE ABOUT MOLD ILLNESSES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE AN HMO.... I'VE

BEEN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE WITH THE DOCTORS, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES

AND DISABILITY FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS WITH NO END IN SIGHT... GOOD

LUCK TO EVERYONE WHO IS BATTLING MOLD TOXICITY.... DANA

>

> Last month I went to the eye doctor because of black floaters and

odd

> changes in my vision. I told him about the problems with mold and

all

> the consequent health problems. The doctor said that I was just

> getting old and black floaters are just a part of aging (I am in

my

> early 30's). I know there is something wrong with my eyes and I

think

> it is this Hematogenous Endophthalmitis.

>

> How many other people have this floaters problem? Mine seems to

get

> worse if I go into a building with mold - today I saw as many as 6

> floaters in one eye - I usually only see one. I would be

interested in

> hearing from others who have this same problem.

>

[Guest guest]

Val: What you are describing as " hyphae-looking " is exactly what I am referring

to. The hyphae strain will appear most often in a weird looking " V " shape with

one larger " dot " at its apex. The strings along either side of that " V " are

almost transparent, however if you can use the lens of your eye looking into the

light (out of perhaps a kitchen window) and following that string closely as it

moves across your eye, you should observe what appear as little formed " dots "

within section of the string. To correct: Not all of the strings observed are

always observed in a roughly " V " formation, but often times I can actually make

that form out in those affecting my eyes and some of those I have spoken with

throughout the years.

Respectfully,

Doug Haney

@...: madeskv@...: Thu, 22 Mar 2007

20:29:42 -0700Subject: [] Re: I knew it

Hi Doug,I haven't noticed specks or dots- I will try and seeif they are there. I

have noticed that they almostappear in fungal hyphae looking forms-Val

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Val: Have you ever heard that old adage that states, " Often the psychiatrist is

worse off than the patient he is treating " ? Another one is my own version,

" Like psychiatrist, like doctor! "

A little humor for you to contemplate. I can believe this because I am a

Biointeractive Health Psychologist (which involves the study of biology leading

to answers of psychology).

Respectfully,

Doug Haney

@...: madeskv@...: Thu, 22 Mar 2007

20:27:07 -0700Subject: [] Re: I knew it

I get worse floaters with exposure - the doctor thinksI'm crazy-Val

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:49:33 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Antares: Floaters can also represent a symptom of early diabetes, mellitus II.

When you and the writer whom you answered observe the floaters you see, in

following them concentrating on the lenses of your eyes, one eye at a time, do

you see what appear as specks (or dots) lining down each side of the floater

itself? And, what other health symptoms are you experiencing as well?

Doug,

Ever since I was a kid I can remember sometimes on rare occasions

seeing two or three little dot's, and sometimes maybe a chain of two

or three dots. Never really noticed any other symptoms with them. They

are quite rare, maybe have them 6 or 7 times a year and they usually

only last a little while, maybe an hour. I really never thought much

of them though for some reason. Thought everyone had them.

From what others are describing maybe mine are not the same thing?

I do have very high stigmatism if that might make a difference. I do

have diabetes in my family line. Grandfather, and brother. I'm 47 and

10 to 20 pounds over weight, all flab due to mold making me sedentary

so at high risk for diabetes. Tested negative about 6 months ago but

have trace amounts of protein which concerns me. The floater symptoms

have been consistent all my life so I doubt their is any connection.

But I'll pee on another test strip just to make sure.

[Guest guest]

DANA, good luck to you too. ---

In , " gsgrl2000 " <gsgrl2000@...> wrote:

>

> I AM IN MY MID 30'S AND I STARTED GETING FLOATERS AFTER MY EXPOSURE

> ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO... I FIRST THTOUGHT IT WAS JUST MY EYES SIGHT

> GETTING WORSE BECAUSE I WEAR CONTACTS BUT I NOW KNOW IT'S THE

> MOLD.... MY DAUGHTER, SINCE THE EXPOSURE, NOW WEARS GLASSES AND SHE

> HAD PERFECT VISION.... YET THESE DOCTORS DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO

> ANYONE ABOUT MOLD ILLNESSES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE AN HMO.... I'VE

> BEEN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE WITH THE DOCTORS, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES

> AND DISABILITY FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS WITH NO END IN SIGHT... GOOD

> LUCK TO EVERYONE WHO IS BATTLING MOLD TOXICITY.... DANA

[Guest guest]

It's interesting, when you read articles on the impact of mycotoxins in

developing countries they ALWAYS draw the connection between the increased

mortality for various diseases and poverty, pointing out how many years it

takes off of people's lives.

But here in the US they never draw that connection. Its as if we don't

exist, or don't matter.

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:38:46 -0000, you wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:13:56 -0400, you wrote:

>We should start being more honest about the toxins and chemicals that

>steal years of healthy life away from people and why that happens.

>IWhen companies know things but still sell products or behave in toxic

>ways, they should be punished appropriately.

This is a gray area though, where is that line? Their are many

unknowns about chemicals and when we use products we take unknown

risk's that usually don't surface for a long time. I believe the

risk's are worth it though.

The other option is to stifle progress and let America and the rest of

the free world turn into a third world power. I shutter to think what

would happen to us than.

If only people accepted this fact maybe chemical company's could be

more forthcoming.

Another example of " We reap what we sow "

I think their should be some kind of law where they can disclose their

findings when they discover them and have FULL immunity. Than and only

than can they be responsible without being destroyed in the process.

Once this liability is lifted MD's won't feel the pressure to lie to

us anymore.

[Guest guest]

This is a very good suggestion . This would keep otherwise

responsible people from avoiding disclosure. There always will be

those that will lie to protect their future profits. Only thing that

could be done is show they knew in the past tense and had this

opportunity to be forthcoming and did not and those people/companies

would be liable for lawsuit and extra financial punishment for not

revealing at time they discovered it. I like your suggestion enough

to send it to my congressman or woman.

--- In , Christ <antares@...>

wrote:

>

>I think their should be some kind of law where they can disclose their

> findings when they discover them and have FULL immunity. Than and

only

> than can they be responsible without being destroyed in the process.

>

> Once this liability is lifted MD's won't feel the pressure to lie to

> us anymore.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, they would just LOVE this..

You can't be serious..

You don't see how they would manipulate this to get out of SO MANY CRIMES?

How easy it would be for them?

Just think. Its kind of like Brer Rabbit and the briar patch.

This is like those scam 'class action lawsuit' situations where they get

immunity forever and only

have to pay a pittance to the actual victims.

On 3/23/07, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> This is a very good suggestion . This would keep otherwise

> responsible people from avoiding disclosure. There always will be

> those that will lie to protect their future profits. Only thing that

> could be done is show they knew in the past tense and had this

> opportunity to be forthcoming and did not and those people/companies

> would be liable for lawsuit and extra financial punishment for not

> revealing at time they discovered it. I like your suggestion enough

> to send it to my congressman or woman.

>

>

> >

> >I think their should be some kind of law where they can disclose their

> > findings when they discover them and have FULL immunity. Than and

> only

> > than can they be responsible without being destroyed in the process.

> >

> > Once this liability is lifted MD's won't feel the pressure to lie to

> > us anymore.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So you are willing to sacrifice your life then? How generous of you.

> This is a gray area though, where is that line? Their are many

unknowns about chemicals and when we use products we take unknown

risk's that usually don't surface for a long time. I believe the

risk's are worth it though.

http://www.ehponline.org/realfiles/docs/2006/8297/abstract.html

[Guest guest]

I'm gonna have to come down on Dillion's side on this - what would happen is

that the attorneys would write template warnings for EVERYTHING - just like

those inserts no one reads in their medication bottles... and all the companies

would be off the hook because they had 'warned' the public. They might even

make us sign more waivers for things saying we understood that we were being

exposed to dangerous things...

H.

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: Oh,

they would just LOVE this..

You can't be serious..

You don't see how they would manipulate this to get out of SO MANY CRIMES?

How easy it would be for them?

Just think. Its kind of like Brer Rabbit and the briar patch.

This is like those scam 'class action lawsuit' situations where they get

immunity forever and only

have to pay a pittance to the actual victims.

On 3/23/07, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> This is a very good suggestion . This would keep otherwise

> responsible people from avoiding disclosure. There always will be

> those that will lie to protect their future profits. Only thing that

> could be done is show they knew in the past tense and had this

> opportunity to be forthcoming and did not and those people/companies

> would be liable for lawsuit and extra financial punishment for not

> revealing at time they discovered it. I like your suggestion enough

> to send it to my congressman or woman.

>

>

> >

> >I think their should be some kind of law where they can disclose their

> > findings when they discover them and have FULL immunity. Than and

> only

> > than can they be responsible without being destroyed in the process.

> >

> > Once this liability is lifted MD's won't feel the pressure to lie to

> > us anymore.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wasn't picturing the issue as something that would just be in

addition to all the small print on things but something that would

affective halt the sale of something. Honest people faced with

perhaps the ruination of their business except if only they can hide

what they have discovered. Dishonest, greedy people will not be

changed so no change there. I think more information would come out

and less people would have to suffer. If something was really just

first discovered and outed right away, I think that is all you can

reasonable expect anyway. I would rather be healthy than a sick

member of a class action lawsuit myself. JMHO

>

> I'm gonna have to come down on Dillion's side on this

[Guest guest]

I agree with live, honest people wouldn't use something they thought

would hurt someone, the effects of toxin exposure has been played down

for to long already and many know exactly what the risks are, I wont

give them any credit for playing dumb, or not going that extra effort

to to ensure safety(ex. EPA allowing use of pesticides that were tested

and known to cause harm to animals). screwing someone over for money or

belonfings is a little different than risking theri health or lives.

you mess with the health of the ones I love and your going to be

dealing with me and its not going to be a oh, ok, you just made a

mistake kind of thing.people who have little consern of other lives is

what has brought us all here. one way or another.

>

> So you are willing to sacrifice your life then? How generous of you.

>

> > This is a gray area though, where is that line? Their are many

> unknowns about chemicals and when we use products we take unknown

> risk's that usually don't surface for a long time. I believe the

> risk's are worth it though.

>

>

> http://www.ehponline.org/realfiles/docs/2006/8297/abstract.html

>

>

>