Re: Getting inflammatory cytokines down?

[Guest guest]

I had good luck with the following:

Grapefruit Seed extract - I use the liquid form and take anywhere from

30-45 drops per day (I just mix this in an electrolyte solution I take

daily). According to the bottle, that's around 300-450 mg/day

Beta Carotene/Vitamin A - I regularly (about 5 days a week) juice

carrots mixed with parsley/cilantro and beets [And, I know Shoemaker

says to avoid these root vegetables, but my inflammatory markers went

way up when I stopped my juicing and they came back down to normal when

I started juicing again while I was still living in my toxic house BUT

I did not have the high leptin].

You will get some vitamin A if you substitute Cod Liver Oil for some of

your fish oil and while the amount you take seems to be alot, I was

taking 4 times that amount (around 18gm/day) for a long while. Now

that I've moved, I seem to do okay with the about the 3-6 gms per day.

Following a general anti-inflammatory diet can also be very helpful.

That means gluten-free and few grains and no sugar. And, of course,

lots of veggies and some fruit.

And, of course, you need to take the CSM on a regular basis to keep

removing the toxins.

Be well,

B

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> Does anybody have a list of ways to get inflammatory markers down?

>

> Lots and lots of fish oil, I know is the big one because of the AA/EPA

> precursor connection but what are the others?

>

> I am trying to take 4 gms of EPA daily but man, is that a LOT of fish

> oil..... (20 big caps)

>

> Any other ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

I just realized there's one other thing that I added to my regimen

that might also have helped to get my inflammatory cytokines down. I

started taking 1500 mg Bromelain between meals (between breakfast and

lunch). This is an enzyme derived from pineapples. When taken with

meals, this enzyme can serve as a digestive enzyme, but I've read

that when taken between meals, these enzymes act as anti-

inflammatories. I know folks in the Lyme community have had good

results with something called Wobenzym, but that is alot more

expensive than just basic Bromelain.

B.

> >

> > Does anybody have a list of ways to get inflammatory markers down?

> >

> > Lots and lots of fish oil, I know is the big one because of the

AA/EPA

> > precursor connection but what are the others?

> >

> > I am trying to take 4 gms of EPA daily but man, is that a LOT of

fish

> > oil..... (20 big caps)

> >

> > Any other ideas?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pancreas, decescated pancreatic tissue will do this also. I saw my

blood under dark field microscopy with inflamatory markers in it.

After a month of this enzyme between meals inflamatory markers, that

look like fibrous material in blood under microscope were almost

gone. Of course there are always more being produced if you gi tract

is still compromised. *I have to assume fibers shown in pictures we

compared blood too are actually indicative of inflamation. Don't know

about that. Taking their word for it. Anyway, fibrous material in my

blood disappear or practically did. They prick your finger, put a

drop of blood on a slide and put it under microscope and look at it.

Pancreas is expensive though. You can get it by Rx. One brand is

Creon but even after my health insurance paid it's portion, it was

still expensive. An allergy/immunology doctor gave me the Rx for

Creon, which is time released pancreatic tissue, like people take

dessicated thyroid for thyroid problems, similar tactic.

>

> I just realized there's one other thing that I added to my regimen

> that might also have helped to get my inflammatory cytokines down.

[Guest guest]

The 'mechanism' I understand is that between meals digestive enzymes

can get into blood stream. I assume this is a 'compromised' digestive

system that is allowing food to get into blood stream also. I don't

see why digestive enzymes otherwise would go from gi tract right into

blood stream if digestive system was healthy. I thought this was

to 'digest' food that has slipped in to blood stream and causing

inflamation (allergic response). However, perhaps the enzymes can

also 'digest'/destroy other proteins in bloodstream, i.e.

microbes???? That would make it kind of making a negative

(compromised ig tract), into a positive (route to get enzymes into

blood stream to attack microbes)??? This is all theoretical. Any

comments on that? I don't see why digestive enzymes would get into

blood stream through healthy digestive tract.

>

> I just realized there's one other thing that I added to my regimen

> that might also have helped to get my inflammatory cytokines down.

[Guest guest]

Just to explain why I was doing this, I got mold exposure and

suddenly, I had arthritis in my hips and couldn't stand up or walk, I

was in serious pain... and my hips are still hurting.. Today was the

first day I felt semi normal in a week.. for a few days I was

completely clogged up too, GI wise.. my food wasn't going through me..

So, I am going to do everything I can figure out to do to get my

cytokines down.. Here's the rationale behind fish oil.

http://www.jrheum.com/subscribers/06/10/1931.html

BTW, there is a clear connection between anything that increases

cytokines and arthritis.. and mold is definitely one of those things..

endotoxins like LPS are similar...

I went for a few years getting these extremely painful episodes every

few months but it hasn't happened to me since I was moving out of the

place I got sick.. until now..

The trigger I think was neighbors doing some work on their house..

they hauled a dumpster of

old wood away and I am sure that had something to do with it..

[Guest guest]

Ginger is an antiinflammatory.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> Does anybody have a list of ways to get inflammatory markers down?

>

> Lots and lots of fish oil, I know is the big one because of the AA/EPA

> precursor connection but what are the others?

>

> I am trying to take 4 gms of EPA daily but man, is that a LOT of fish

> oil..... (20 big caps)

>

> Any other ideas?

>