Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

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In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,

cherie22001@... writes:

I became addicted to painkillers last year and went off cold turkey and was

violently ill

Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend just lost her

brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to quit on his own and he

had a

seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off narcotics without a

doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get addicted to pain

pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at least being able to manage

it. I

only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I can't get any sleep

without them, although I am not getting as much restful sleep as I used to so

I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I have been through all

the different types of ways to help with the pain and so far I am able to

manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day ever comes that I need

them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so understanding and helpful

and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because he had a round of nerve

pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember what it is called) that you

can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that is what I feel ALL the

time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not over do, but we all

know that is an impossibility! lol

Take care!

CYH!

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Hi Cheryl

  No I iwll never do that again. Yes I was addicted to feeling less pain and

being able to get through my day almost perfectly. Iowned my own school at the

time and I had to feel well so much and could not let go of the pills..I iwll

never do thatagain. I was told I should have weaned myself off of them slowly. I

was so very ill for at least a month...I am not sure which pain you are

suffering from but I hope that your doctor will help you to feel better. I think

most people do not appreciate how very lucky they are to feel well. I fight off

self pity but some days it is just  not easy. Anyways one day at a time

hopefully we will all feel better. cherie

Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 7:53 PM

In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,

cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

I became addicted to painkillers last year and went off cold turkey and was

violently ill

Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend just lost her

brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to quit on his own and he had

a

seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off narcotics without a

doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get addicted to pain

pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at least being able to manage

it. I

only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I can't get any sleep

without them, although I am not getting as much restful sleep as I used to so

I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I have been through all

the different types of ways to help with the pain and so far I am able to

manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day ever comes that I need

them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so understanding and helpful

and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because he had a round of nerve

pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember what it is called) that you

can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that is what I feel ALL the

time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not over do, but we all

know that is an impossibility! lol

Take care!

CYH!

Cheryl

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Very, very good advice!! I thought of it last night. You should NEVER have had

to go off cold turkey. You should have expressed your fears of addiction to

your doctor and had him take you down a little at a time.

There are other options for pain management that are non opiate.

People have died doing that. The body goes into a real upheaval. I used to

withdraw addicts and we do it so there is no pain at all. And if you are an

addict, of course, use support systems for that.

I consider myself medically dependent because the pain and spasm is too much for

me to deal with. I want a life where I can walk and sit....not lie in bed

wishing it were over. That is NOT addiction. Tolerance is not addiction.

If you are truly an addict it can transfer to something else so you have to look

at the addiction as a process. Not just the drug.

Ex heroin addicts have actually been able to do pain management because they had

to...and keep it in control. But they are in a very good recovery program.

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> Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

> To: Hugs-N-Pain

> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central Standard

> Time,

> cherie22001@... writes:

>

> I became addicted to painkillers last year and went off

> cold turkey and was

> violently ill

>

>

> Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> just lost her

> brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> quit on his own and he had a

> seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> narcotics without a

> doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> addicted to pain

> pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at least

> being able to manage it. I

> only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> can't get any sleep

> without them, although I am not getting as much restful

> sleep as I used to so

> I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> have been through all

> the different types of ways to help with the pain and so

> far I am able to

> manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day ever

> comes that I need

> them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> understanding and helpful

> and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because he

> had a round of nerve

> pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember what

> it is called) that you

> can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that is

> what I feel ALL the

> time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not over

> do, but we all

> know that is an impossibility! lol

> Take care!

> CYH!

> Cheryl

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Thanks for your reply. I dont consider myself an addict..I was in such pain that

I ached to feel well...I went about it in a stupid way and I went cold turkey. I

felt I had nobody to talk to who who would understand me. Of course I would

never do this again ever. I am very careful with any meds I take today and I am

doing better..somedays are worse than others but I get through them. I work out

with a personal trainer 4 times a week to relieve my pain and it really

helps..better than swallowing a pill...cherie

> From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

> To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central Standard

> Time,

> cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

>

> I became addicted to painkillers last year and went off

> cold turkey and was

> violently ill

>

>

> Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> just lost her

> brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> quit on his own and he had a

> seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> narcotics without a

> doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> addicted to pain

> pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at least

> being able to manage it. I

> only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> can't get any sleep

> without them, although I am not getting as much restful

> sleep as I used to so

> I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> have been through all

> the different types of ways to help with the pain and so

> far I am able to

> manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day ever

> comes that I need

> them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> understanding and helpful

> and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because he

> had a round of nerve

> pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember what

> it is called) that you

> can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that is

> what I feel ALL the

> time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not over

> do, but we all

> know that is an impossibility! lol

> Take care!

> CYH!

> Cheryl

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Hi there,

A note on pain management. My dr. has me on 60 tabs percocet every 15 days

which is 4 tabs per day for two years. Under no circumstances will she refill

early.

My dilemma:

Case 1., my neighborhood was vandalized by two teenagers and I was unable to

find my percocet - along with gift cards to cabalas and items that young kids

might steel. So last month I had no choice but to go to another dr. to receive

medication (vicodin which is not as strong but was better than nothing).

Case 2., I was shopping at the mall and left my bag and purse on the bench for

less than a minute and someone stole them. Once again I had to go to another dr.

to obtain medication. Unfortunately, the dr. whom had prescribed me the vicodin

refused me treatment and got extremely angry and treated me horribly.

I then went to another physician who was able to help but had me sign a release

form that will allow her to ask the state to report to her all my medications.

I am now in terrible fear that my original dr. will be informed and stop all my

medications. This is no way to live.

Dr.'s start you on pain management but then refuse you help in the above

situations. It is not right as the withdrawal is unbearable cold turkey.

Typing is difficult for me (I have three bulging discs in my neck with pinched

nerves and case unbearable pain, shooting dagger pain and numbness) I have been

forces to change jobs - from Executive Assistant to a sales position as that is

the only job I can do that does not require the use of my arm.

I have made substantial changes in my life style - example, cut my hair very

short because I can't style it, household chores do not get done as much because

of pain, I even decided I was not able to have children because I am afraid I

won't be able to tend to them as needed. Every part of my life has been

affected.

This only brings me back to the point I was trying to make that now on top of

everything, I have to worry about being reported as a drug abuser and losing the

only thing that helps me live a somewhat normal life.

I am with out a doubt, the most very depressed and scared person I know.

Does anyone out there share with me this fear and depression? Is there anyone

who can relate to my situation? Can anyone give me words of encouragement or

help to subdue my fears?

If so, please write back. I come to you now for help, support, encouragement,

legal information, and advice.

Sincerely,

Cat

>

> > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

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> friends,

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[Guest guest]

They just may not buy it.

Really. Those excuses are already well used...probably even the dog ate them.

My doc really knows me and if they were stolen I'd have to talk to him about it

and hope he understands and trusts me. We did have an incident once where the

pharmacy lost a whole bottle...but we were able to work it out ok and I did get

my script.

One mistake was seeing another doctor without the first doctors knowledge...that

constitutes doctor shopping for " extra " meds. If the first doc knew nothing

about your other doc that would probably fall under deceit. I don't how that

would go legally.

When I had another script everyone was on the same page. It was due to oral

surgery and the dentist didn't me to use the regular pain management drugs and

they both knew the story as it should be.

Second...you NEVER sit your stuff down at a mall or store. Mine goes into my

fanny pack next to my body under a shirt. They're gonna have to fight me hand

to hand and I pray those years in tai kwon do pay off.

If they break into my home and I'm there. They're gonna get shot. If I'm not,

they're gonna play hell finding them. It's good to figure out the worst that

will happen and prepare for it.

I don't talk about my meds to anyone. That's an invite to a big problem.

How you live with this is walk a very straight line with your doc and be very

careful.

Sitting a bag down at a mall...many people wouldn't do that. It's not even

natural. Many like me carry stuff that is close to the body like a fanny pack.

It just makes a harder target for crooks.

Man...I dunno. You may have to fess up.

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> > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> com>

> > > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> > turkey!...

> > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> > Standard

> > > Time,

> > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > >

> > > I became addicted to painkillers last year and

> went

> > off

> > > cold turkey and was

> > > violently ill

> > >

> > >

> > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best

> friend

> > > just lost her

> > > brother because he was an alcoholic and was

> trying to

> > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go

> off

> > > narcotics without a

> > > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do

> not get

> > > addicted to pain

> > > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or

> at

> > least

> > > being able to manage it. I

> > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I

> know I

> > > can't get any sleep

> > > without them, although I am not getting as much

> > restful

> > > sleep as I used to so

> > > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my

> dose. I

> > > have been through all

> > > the different types of ways to help with the pain

> and

> > so

> > > far I am able to

> > > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the

> day

> > ever

> > > comes that I need

> > > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby

> is so

> > > understanding and helpful

> > > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd

> because

> > he

> > > had a round of nerve

> > > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't

> remember

> > what

> > > it is called) that you

> > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him

> that

> > is

> > > what I feel ALL the

> > > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and

> not

> > over

> > > do, but we all

> > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > Take care!

> > > CYH!

> > > Cheryl

> > > ************ **Make your life easier with all

> your

> > friends,

> > > email, and

> > > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

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[Guest guest]

You are right to a degree. However, I find your response carrying the same tone

that I was treated with by a certain physician. I suppose if it comes down to

it I will have to explain what has happenened but these situations happen to

people in all walks of life no matter what.

I have had my purse stollen - my car broken into, my house... this is not some

sort of cop out - it just happens. I supppose walking two feet to throw away a

napkin without thinking in that 2 seconds someone would steel from me was niave,

but like I said, these things happen all the time... the way the economy is now

stealing is becoming a way of life for many and I need to be a whole lot more

aware.

As far as needing to get med's to carry me threw, I can't afford to go through

the withdrawal right now - it sounds like this is something you are not familiar

with or you would not be so harsh with your responses.

I asked for responses from people who can provide support, encouragement and

advice, I don't feel as though I received any of those things from you.

But thank you for your time and God Bless.

> > >

> > > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> > com>

> > > > Subject: Re: Cherie on going

> cold

> > > turkey!...

> > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M.

> Central

> > > Standard

> > > > Time,

> > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > >

> > > > I became addicted to painkillers last year

> and

> > went

> > > off

> > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > violently ill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters

> best

> > friend

> > > > just lost her

> > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and was

> > trying to

> > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to

> go

> > off

> > > > narcotics without a

> > > > doctors help and advice. And people in pain

> do

> > not get

> > > > addicted to pain

> > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> pain, or

> > at

> > > least

> > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time

> and I

> > know I

> > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > without them, although I am not getting as

> much

> > > restful

> > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > I may have to talk to the doc about upping

> my

> > dose. I

> > > > have been through all

> > > > the different types of ways to help with the

> pain

> > and

> > > so

> > > > far I am able to

> > > > manage it without doing any narcotics, but

> if the

> > day

> > > ever

> > > > comes that I need

> > > > them I won't hesitate to take them. My

> hubby

> > is so

> > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd

> > because

> > > he

> > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't

> > remember

> > > what

> > > > it is called) that you

> > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told

> him

> > that

> > > is

> > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal with

> it and

> > not

> > > over

> > > > do, but we all

> > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > Take care!

> > > > CYH!

> > > > Cheryl

> > > > ************ **Make your life easier with

> all

> > your

> > > friends,

> > > > email, and

> > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

> new-dp & icid=

> > > aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Wasn't trying to be harsh...I just know these docs pretty well. I was a nurse

in my other life and have seen it.... and they take it with a lot skepticism.

They have their butts on the line and they expect nothing less then the

strictness of honesty and if they smell deceit in any way shape or form they get

a bit jumpy. A lot jumpy in fact. The DEA is looking at them with a

microscope.

I'm not judging you at all...it's just how they will look at it. I've seen

their wheels in action.

I hope it works out well. If and when you talk to her about what happened I can

only hope for the best outcome.

We live in fear when we havn't done anything " iffy " when we go to get those

refills. We are terrified of not getting the renewals.

I've been there before I got my disability being treated like a " bad "

person...those clinics are horrible. Been there done that.

You want advice....be very straight with the doctor. If that fails...it's a

chance you take.

Others will respond and if it seems harsh...it's not intended to. You'll find

others who have had similar experience.

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> > > >

> > > > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com

> <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> > > com>

> > > > > Subject: Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

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hi lotacats you are rite the docs exspect us to watch are meds i have a

brotherenlaw how gets into mine i hide them he will hunt and find them but my

wife sead he dosenot do it she keeps a key out side for hem to get in when we

are not home it is so hard to keep people out of them when thay are in the same

house with you donnieKY

> > > >

> > > > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com

> <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> > > com>

> > > > > Subject: Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

> > all

> > > your

> > > > friends,

> > > > > email, and

> > > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it

> now.

> > > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

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[Guest guest]

You might not like the answer you received but everything shes told you is

correct. They don't care what happens to your meds its up to you to keep up with

them. The doctors hear these stories everyday and its usually from an addict.

Rod

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[Guest guest]

Cat,

I live in fear all the time when I go in for refills and get the looks from the

pharmacists. They just don't understand what we have to go thru. Today I had to

get a refill for my perc. which runs out next week, when I will be in Tex. In

Tex they will only take a written prescription if it is not for a narcotic. So I

asked my doc about something lower dose that the Army pharmacy would refill

today. We ended up putting me on Vicodin, which is not quite cutting the pain,

but it is better than going without during a two day drive and then my

grandmother's 90th bday party and then Christmas with the family. Could you

imagine all that with no pain meds?? It would be miserable not only for me, but

them too.

So keep your chin up and yak at me if you need or any of us....we leave on Thurs

(I hope) and I am taking our laptop, so I will keep in touch during my trip.

Tomorrow is baking, they have all requested that I bring my pumpkin bread that I

make for Christmas, and that's about at least 7 loaves....but I love doing it!

Talk to me anytime,

Lynn

 

Lynn Latham

blue_texasgal@...

lynnlatham@...

" I Don't Do Mornings "

 

________________________________

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 1:59:41 PM

Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

Hi there,

A note on pain management. My dr. has me on 60 tabs percocet every 15 days which

is 4 tabs per day for two years. Under no circumstances will she refill early.

My dilemma:

Case 1., my neighborhood was vandalized by two teenagers and I was unable to

find my percocet - along with gift cards to cabalas and items that young kids

might steel. So last month I had no choice but to go to another dr. to receive

medication (vicodin which is not as strong but was better than nothing).

Case 2., I was shopping at the mall and left my bag and purse on the bench for

less than a minute and someone stole them. Once again I had to go to another dr.

to obtain medication. Unfortunately, the dr. whom had prescribed me the vicodin

refused me treatment and got extremely angry and treated me horribly.

I then went to another physician who was able to help but had me sign a release

form that will allow her to ask the state to report to her all my medications. I

am now in terrible fear that my original dr. will be informed and stop all my

medications. This is no way to live.

Dr.'s start you on pain management but then refuse you help in the above

situations. It is not right as the withdrawal is unbearable cold turkey.

Typing is difficult for me (I have three bulging discs in my neck with pinched

nerves and case unbearable pain, shooting dagger pain and numbness) I have been

forces to change jobs - from Executive Assistant to a sales position as that is

the only job I can do that does not require the use of my arm.

I have made substantial changes in my life style - example, cut my hair very

short because I can't style it, household chores do not get done as much because

of pain, I even decided I was not able to have children because I am afraid I

won't be able to tend to them as needed. Every part of my life has been

affected.

This only brings me back to the point I was trying to make that now on top of

everything, I have to worry about being reported as a drug abuser and losing the

only thing that helps me live a somewhat normal life.

I am with out a doubt, the most very depressed and scared person I know.

Does anyone out there share with me this fear and depression? Is there anyone

who can relate to my situation? Can anyone give me words of encouragement or

help to subdue my fears?

If so, please write back. I come to you now for help, support, encouragement,

legal information, and advice.

Sincerely,

Cat

>

> > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

> > ************ **Make your life easier with all your

> friends,

> > email, and

> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am not sure what state all of you live in, but I am in Ga. my mama and me both

see different Pain Management dr's. and last month. we both had to do drug test

something new that has been started on Ga. I have never had to do this or sign a

contract with my Dr. I heard his tech on the phone on day talking with a patient

and she was telling him he had broken the contract that he had signed between

the Dr and the man. The dr's are really tighten down. my MIL used to dr hop and

pharmacy hop to. she never got caught to my knowledge but that was before

everything was on computers. if for some reason I see another dr. I am up front

with them right off about my pain meds. If I lost them I fear to think what my

life would be like.

Jena

Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

> > all

> > > your

> > > > friends,

> > > > > email, and

> > > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it

> now.

> > > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

> > new-dp & icid=

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[Guest guest]

I didn't mean anyone was Dr. hopping sorry if I came across like that. but there

are allot of people out there that do things that make it very hard of us that

have them pain meds to live any kind of life at all.

Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

> > all

> > > your

> > > > friends,

> > > > > email, and

> > > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it

> now.

> > > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

> > new-dp & icid=

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the docter shopers make it reel hard on us painers that rilly need the meds when

i come across one it is a fight it pisses me off donnieKY

> > > >

> > > > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com

> <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> > > com>

> > > > > Subject: Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

> > all

> > > your

> > > > friends,

> > > > > email, and

> > > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it

> now.

> > > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

> > new-dp & icid=

> > > > aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco

> m00000010)

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hi lynn i love that homemade bread it is good donnieKY

>

> > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

> > ************ **Make your life easier with all your

> friends,

> > email, and

> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I did NOT mean to imply that anyone was Dr. hopping. and even though as a nurse

I don't believe it is right. Since I have started having all these problems I

have to say I understand it much more. in my area. pain management dr's are a

fairly new thing. so, to be given enough pain meds to take 3 a day for 30 days

was pretty much unheard of.

Jena

Re: Cherie on

> going

> > cold

> > > > turkey!...

> > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48

> P.M.

> > Central

> > > > Standard

> > > > > Time,

> > > > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > I became addicted to painkillers last

> year

> > and

> > > went

> > > > off

> > > > > cold turkey and was

> > > > > violently ill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My

> daughters

> > best

> > > friend

> > > > > just lost her

> > > > > brother because he was an alcoholic and

> was

> > > trying to

> > > > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > > > seizure and died. Please do not ever

> try to

> > go

> > > off

> > > > > narcotics without a

> > > > > doctors help and advice. And people in

> pain

> > do

> > > not get

> > > > > addicted to pain

> > > > > pills...they get addicted to not having

> > pain, or

> > > at

> > > > least

> > > > > being able to manage it. I

> > > > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed

> time

> > and I

> > > know I

> > > > > can't get any sleep

> > > > > without them, although I am not getting

> as

> > much

> > > > restful

> > > > > sleep as I used to so

> > > > > I may have to talk to the doc about

> upping

> > my

> > > dose. I

> > > > > have been through all

> > > > > the different types of ways to help

> with the

> > pain

> > > and

> > > > so

> > > > > far I am able to

> > > > > manage it without doing any narcotics,

> but

> > if the

> > > day

> > > > ever

> > > > > comes that I need

> > > > > them I won't hesitate to take them.

> My

> > hubby

> > > is so

> > > > > understanding and helpful

> > > > > and knows the pain I have with my pn

> and rsd

> > > because

> > > > he

> > > > > had a round of nerve

> > > > > pain when he had that nerve pain

> (can't

> > > remember

> > > > what

> > > > > it is called) that you

> > > > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I

> told

> > him

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > what I feel ALL the

> > > > > time. So, like you I try to just deal

> with

> > it and

> > > not

> > > > over

> > > > > do, but we all

> > > > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > > > Take care!

> > > > > CYH!

> > > > > Cheryl

> > > > > ************ **Make your life easier

> with

> > all

> > > your

> > > > friends,

> > > > > email, and

> > > > > favorite sites in one place. Try it

> now.

> > > > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin=

> > new-dp & icid=

> > > > aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco

> m00000010)

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn....I had an experience a few years ago I would like to share.  I live in

Texas, and was living in Denton at the time.  I had run out of my pain meds,and

my pain doc was out of town, so I went to the ER, stayed the obligatory 5 or 6

hours, and the ER doc gave me enough until my pain doc was available.  I took

the script to the store..I wont mention it, but it starts with CVS....and

dropped it off.  I went back 2 hours later, and the pharmacist told me that

since I had had so and so filled, he labled me a drug seeker, called the

hospital and talked to the ER doc, and had my scripts cancelled.  I was livid! 

I told him the circumstances,and that I was a chronic pain sufferer,but it didnt

do any good.  I was dialing CVS's 1-800 number as I was walking out of the

store.  Came to find out that he was someone they had pulled in,so he didnt know

his customers.  The head honcho over this area of pharmacists drove to Denton,

and fired the guy. 

By then I had transferred all of my scripts to Walgreen's.  SOmeone is going to

have to enlighten people that a lot of us NEED these meds, and we dont like

taking them..we NEED to take them.  I hope you have a safe journey to my

beautiful state.  What part will you be visiting?  Vicki in ville, Tx

Hebrews 11:1

>

> > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

> > ************ **Make your life easier with all your

> friends,

> > email, and

> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

When I had that Percocet filled when I went to the Urgent Care last week, I went

to a totally different pharmacy. I like my regular pharmacist a lot and they

are good to me but I didn't need anything like what you went thru or them

calling to make sure I was on the up and up...so..I just went to another stating

it was closet to the Urgent Care.

That gave me time to explain to my doctor, as I would be seeing him within a

couple of days...and to tell what pharmacist I used to fill the percocet. It

was all to get that blood pressure down to a same level. I couldn't afford any

misunderstanding.

My doctor has all the records from the Urgent Care and all is well..no

surprises.

If that had happened to me and I had a stroke from the blood

pressure...boy...someone would be in trouble.

This instant diagnosis of doctor shopping and drug seeker is such a bad thing.

OF COURSE we're drug seeking. No duh!!

I have no trouble saying I NEED the drugs. I do. It's that or be in big

trouble. Pain causes physical problems we don't need.

Lotacats

Express Chronic Pain Awareness

http://www.cafepress.com/lotacatspix/5815010

Lotacatsfunpix.com

http://www.lotacatsfunpix.com/

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http://lotacats05.deviantart.com/

> >

> > > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT)

> com>

> > > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> > turkey!...

> > > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> > Standard

> > > Time,

> > > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> > >

> > > I became addicted to painkillers last year and

> went

> > off

> > > cold turkey and was

> > > violently ill

> > >

> > >

> > > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best

> friend

> > > just lost her

> > > brother because he was an alcoholic and was

> trying to

> > > quit on his own and he had a

> > > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go

> off

> > > narcotics without a

> > > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do

> not get

> > > addicted to pain

> > > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or

> at

> > least

> > > being able to manage it. I

> > > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I

> know I

> > > can't get any sleep

> > > without them, although I am not getting as much

> > restful

> > > sleep as I used to so

> > > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my

> dose. I

> > > have been through all

> > > the different types of ways to help with the pain

> and

> > so

> > > far I am able to

> > > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the

> day

> > ever

> > > comes that I need

> > > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby

> is so

> > > understanding and helpful

> > > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd

> because

> > he

> > > had a round of nerve

> > > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't

> remember

> > what

> > > it is called) that you

> > > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him

> that

> > is

> > > what I feel ALL the

> > > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and

> not

> > over

> > > do, but we all

> > > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > > Take care!

> > > CYH!

> > > Cheryl

> > > ************ **Make your life easier with all

> your

> > friends,

> > > email, and

> > > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> > aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wow, that must have been rough for you, and it would have ticked me off big

time!! Glad you got thru it though.

Lynn

 

Lynn Latham

blue_texasgal@...

lynnlatham@...

" I Don't Do Mornings "

 

________________________________

To: Hugs-N-Pain

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:22:09 AM

Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold turkey!...

Hi Lynn....I had an experience a few years ago I would like to share.  I live in

Texas, and was living in Denton at the time.  I had run out of my pain meds,and

my pain doc was out of town, so I went to the ER, stayed the obligatory 5 or 6

hours, and the ER doc gave me enough until my pain doc was available.  I took

the script to the store..I wont mention it, but it starts with CVS....and

dropped it off.  I went back 2 hours later, and the pharmacist told me that

since I had had so and so filled, he labled me a drug seeker, called the

hospital and talked to the ER doc, and had my scripts cancelled.  I was livid! 

I told him the circumstances, and that I was a chronic pain sufferer,but it

didnt do any good.  I was dialing CVS's 1-800 number as I was walking out of the

store.  Came to find out that he was someone they had pulled in,so he didnt know

his customers.  The head honcho over this area of pharmacists drove to Denton,

and fired the guy. 

By then I had transferred all of my scripts to Walgreen's.  SOmeone is going to

have to enlighten people that a lot of us NEED these meds, and we dont like

taking them..we NEED to take them.  I hope you have a safe journey to my

beautiful state.  What part will you be visiting?  Vicki in ville, Tx

Hebrews 11:1

>

> > From: Dollykayeaol (DOT) com <Dollykayeaol (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

> > ************ **Make your life easier with all your

> friends,

> > email, and

> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I always use the same pharmacy for my pain meds. one reason is should I need

something called in my Dr likes everything at the same pharmacy. and there are

these people that give us a really bad name. I have taken in scripts and my ins

say it was a day or so to early and so way the pharmacist would get it to go

through. Ever thing has a system it is just a matter if that person wants to go

that extra mile for you. I had a pharmacist fill my long-lasting with short-

acting and tried to argue with him. but it was impossible, so I had to get

another appt with my dr. and get another script to get it straightened out. as I

was walking out the pharmacist made the statement that he won that one and got

rid of me. so like you I just made a stop and requested the manager an explained

what had happened and I never saw that pharmacist again.

Re: Cherie on going cold

> turkey!...

> > To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:53 PM

> > In a message dated 12/8/2008 3:15:48 P.M. Central

> Standard

> > Time,

> > cherie22001@ yahoo.com writes:

> >

> > I became addicted to painkillers last year and went

> off

> > cold turkey and was

> > violently ill

> >

> >

> > Cherie This is so dangerous! My daughters best friend

> > just lost her

> > brother because he was an alcoholic and was trying to

> > quit on his own and he had a

> > seizure and died. Please do not ever try to go off

> > narcotics without a

> > doctors help and advice. And people in pain do not get

> > addicted to pain

> > pills...they get addicted to not having pain, or at

> least

> > being able to manage it. I

> > only take two muscle relaxers at bed time and I know I

> > can't get any sleep

> > without them, although I am not getting as much

> restful

> > sleep as I used to so

> > I may have to talk to the doc about upping my dose. I

> > have been through all

> > the different types of ways to help with the pain and

> so

> > far I am able to

> > manage it without doing any narcotics, but if the day

> ever

> > comes that I need

> > them I won't hesitate to take them. My hubby is so

> > understanding and helpful

> > and knows the pain I have with my pn and rsd because

> he

> > had a round of nerve

> > pain when he had that nerve pain (can't remember

> what

> > it is called) that you

> > can get if you have had chicken pox. I told him that

> is

> > what I feel ALL the

> > time. So, like you I try to just deal with it and not

> over

> > do, but we all

> > know that is an impossibility! lol

> > Take care!

> > CYH!

> > Cheryl

> > ************ **Make your life easier with all your

> friends,

> > email, and

> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid=

> aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000010)

> >

> >

> >