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> My experience with " doing the work "

> is that it must involve following:

>

> - Full Attention to the Present

> Moment!

>

> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> you " feel " at this Moment!

>

> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> at this Moment!

>

>

> In my experience, true inquiry can not

> happen until the " feeling " ; the

> " resistance " to the present moment is

> gone. This resistance [in every

> situation that I am aware of] is felt

> in the body.

>

> Full Attention dissolves this

> resistance. But, until this resistance

> [feeling] is gone... it keeps pulling

> attention towards itself like a

> throbbing wound.

[...]

>

> But, with Full Attention... not only

> 'inquiry' becomes possible; sometimes,

> the need for inquiry itself is gone as

> what was previously 'felt' as 'unease'

> gets transmuted by the Full Attention

> into Peace!

>

However, in the situations where

'inquiry' is found necessary or useful;

it is extremely useful to:

- Focus on yourself.

- Focus on what you value Most

- Focus on what you can truly

know.

- Focus on what you can truly do.

I have found that focusing on " others "

and thinking what " others " should do or

should not do, what they should or

shouldn't think/say... doesn't really

work. Even true inquiry can not happen

in these situations as it based on a

blatant lie.

We lack any real control and knowledge

of what others should think/do/say and

any effort do so leads to a painful

'karmic' cycle no matter how much we

'work' on it!

In addition, when inquiring

" thoughts " ; it is very important to

separate out the REAL thought from

numerous superficial surface thoughts

that are simply the outgrowth of few

[and in some situations just One] CORE

thoughts.

Until that Root thought is clearly

identified, questioned and understood

" working " on secondary thoughts remains

an endless cycle as the same root

thought keeps giving birth to many new

incarnations.

It is only after we reach this root

thought and see it clearly that the

inquiry becomes really effective in

cutting the 'pain cycle'! Until we do

that new [stressful] thoughts

originating from this root thought keep

on offshooting.

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Hi Adithya,

For me the work (which I don't do on paper, too lazy yet) is like a

computer virus, whenever you run a mental operation you get a pop-

up " Can you Know that that's True? Let's look into it " or when you

judge someone " Turn it around " . It slowly works on the system

decrstructing it whether you intentionally want it too or not.

I think the things you mentioned really help facilitate the work but

I believe thought does come before feeling. For instance a friend

betrays you, you feel like you where kicked in the stomach. You win

the lottery, a great weight has been lifted from your shoulders.

Mark

>

> Byron is one of my favorite

> teachers. She teaches a very powerful

> method of thought inquiry called

> *work*! This method involves

> questioning thoughts to 'reveal' often

> 'non existing' realities behind a

> thought. This method is very effective

> in dissolving many stressful thoughts

> and in ensuring peace and harmony.

>

> < http://www.thework.com/ >

>

> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doing-The-Work/ >

>

> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Loving-what-is/>

>

>

>

> However, my experience with " doing the work "

> is that it must involve following:

>

> - Full Attention to the Present

> Moment!

>

> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> you " feel " at this Moment!

>

> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> at this Moment!

>

>

> In my experience, true inquiry can not

> happen until the " feeling " ; the

> " resistance " to the present moment is

> gone. This resistance [in every

> situation that I am aware of] is felt

> in the body.

>

> Full Attention dissolves this

> resistance. But, until this resistance

> [feeling] is gone... it keeps pulling

> attention towards itself like a

> throbbing wound. Partial attention

> [that it automatically pulls] keeps it

> alive; with full attention it is

> clearly seen and gets dissolved.

>

>

> This resistance [fragmented feeling]

> comes due to many reasons including

> Lack of Clarity [not clearly knowing

> " what " , " why " , " how " of " what to do " in

> the Present Moment]. Yet, once this

> resistance has arisen the best thing is

> to pay full attention to it and see it

> clearly. Until that has happened mere

> mental inquiry doesn't work as it stays

> on the surface but this feeling runs

> deep underneath!

>

> But, with Full Attention... not only

> 'inquiry' becomes possible; sometimes,

> the need for inquiry itself is gone as

> what was previously 'felt' as 'unease'

> gets transmuted by the Full Attention

> into Peace!

>

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Dear Adithya,

Thank you for sharing your observations on The Work.

You wrote:

" However, my experience with " doing the work "

is that it must involve following:

- Full Attention to the Present

Moment!

- Clearly and Completely seeing of what

you " feel " at this Moment!

- Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

at this Moment!

I do not agree with your words " must involve " .

I do believe that if we could always accomplish those three excellent

suggestions of yours, the quality of our results would be enhanced,

but I would not want people to read your post and get the idea that

they must know how to do those things in order to properly do The

Work. If I had read your post 8 years ago before meeting I

might not hav even considered doing The Work?

I believe that The Work is meant to be FUN.

Blessings, Steve D.

>

> Byron is one of my favorite

> teachers. She teaches a very powerful

> method of thought inquiry called

> *work*! This method involves

> questioning thoughts to 'reveal' often

> 'non existing' realities behind a

> thought. This method is very effective

> in dissolving many stressful thoughts

> and in ensuring peace and harmony.

>

> < http://www.thework.com/ >

>

> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doing-The-Work/ >

>

> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Loving-what-is/>

>

>

>

> However, my experience with " doing the work "

> is that it must involve following:

>

> - Full Attention to the Present

> Moment!

>

> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> you " feel " at this Moment!

>

> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> at this Moment!

>

>

> In my experience, true inquiry can not

> happen until the " feeling " ; the

> " resistance " to the present moment is

> gone. This resistance [in every

> situation that I am aware of] is felt

> in the body.

>

> Full Attention dissolves this

> resistance. But, until this resistance

> [feeling] is gone... it keeps pulling

> attention towards itself like a

> throbbing wound. Partial attention

> [that it automatically pulls] keeps it

> alive; with full attention it is

> clearly seen and gets dissolved.

>

>

> This resistance [fragmented feeling]

> comes due to many reasons including

> Lack of Clarity [not clearly knowing

> " what " , " why " , " how " of " what to do " in

> the Present Moment]. Yet, once this

> resistance has arisen the best thing is

> to pay full attention to it and see it

> clearly. Until that has happened mere

> mental inquiry doesn't work as it stays

> on the surface but this feeling runs

> deep underneath!

>

> But, with Full Attention... not only

> 'inquiry' becomes possible; sometimes,

> the need for inquiry itself is gone as

> what was previously 'felt' as 'unease'

> gets transmuted by the Full Attention

> into Peace!

>

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> " However, my experience with " doing the work "

> is that it must involve following:

> - Full Attention to the Present

> Moment!

*****There is only the Present Moment. Attention goes where it goes,

regardless of where we think it should go.

> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> you " feel " at this Moment!

> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> at this Moment!

>

> I do not agree with your words " must involve " .

*****Ditto. Note a Core Belief that the creator of The Work has

stated: " There is a right way to do The Work. " It's just a belief,

that's all. And some are drawn to the apparent safety and security

of dogma.

> I do believe that if we could always accomplish those three

> excellent suggestions of yours, the quality of our results would be

> enhanced,

*****Dear Steve, how so? How are the results lacking? If they could

be enhanced, something, then, must be.....absent. What do see is

missing?

> but I would not want people to read your post and get the

> idea that they must know how to do those things in order to

> properly do The Work.

*****Why not? If you wish to go there, consider: what is the

underlying belief behind this want?

> If I had read your post 8 years ago before

> meeting I might not hav even considered doing The Work?

> I believe that The Work is meant to be FUN.

*****I believe that The Work is. ;-)

You are a pleasure, Steve. Thank you.

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Dear Steve,

I heard him as " must involve, to REALLY *dig* into it " .

So, I hear you both share the same story.

And thank you for the warning!

Love,

Am 19.05.2006 um 02:03 schrieb Steve D:

> Dear Adithya,

>

> Thank you for sharing your observations on The Work.

>

> You wrote:

> " However, my experience with " doing the work "

> is that it must involve following:

> - Full Attention to the Present

> Moment!

> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> you " feel " at this Moment!

> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> at this Moment!

>

> I do not agree with your words " must involve " .

> I do believe that if we could always accomplish those three excellent

> suggestions of yours, the quality of our results would be enhanced,

> but I would not want people to read your post and get the idea that

> they must know how to do those things in order to properly do The

> Work. If I had read your post 8 years ago before meeting I

> might not hav even considered doing The Work?

> I believe that The Work is meant to be FUN.

>

> Blessings, Steve D.

>

>

>

>>

>> Byron is one of my favorite

>> teachers. She teaches a very powerful

>> method of thought inquiry called

>> *work*! This method involves

>> questioning thoughts to 'reveal' often

>> 'non existing' realities behind a

>> thought. This method is very effective

>> in dissolving many stressful thoughts

>> and in ensuring peace and harmony.

>>

>> < http://www.thework.com/ >

>>

>> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doing-The-Work/ >

>>

>> < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Loving-what-is/>

>>

>>

>>

>> However, my experience with " doing the work "

>> is that it must involve following:

>>

>> - Full Attention to the Present

>> Moment!

>>

>> - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

>> you " feel " at this Moment!

>>

>> - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

>> at this Moment!

>>

>>

>> In my experience, true inquiry can not

>> happen until the " feeling " ; the

>> " resistance " to the present moment is

>> gone. This resistance [in every

>> situation that I am aware of] is felt

>> in the body.

>>

>> Full Attention dissolves this

>> resistance. But, until this resistance

>> [feeling] is gone... it keeps pulling

>> attention towards itself like a

>> throbbing wound. Partial attention

>> [that it automatically pulls] keeps it

>> alive; with full attention it is

>> clearly seen and gets dissolved.

>>

>>

>> This resistance [fragmented feeling]

>> comes due to many reasons including

>> Lack of Clarity [not clearly knowing

>> " what " , " why " , " how " of " what to do " in

>> the Present Moment]. Yet, once this

>> resistance has arisen the best thing is

>> to pay full attention to it and see it

>> clearly. Until that has happened mere

>> mental inquiry doesn't work as it stays

>> on the surface but this feeling runs

>> deep underneath!

>>

>> But, with Full Attention... not only

>> 'inquiry' becomes possible; sometimes,

>> the need for inquiry itself is gone as

>> what was previously 'felt' as 'unease'

>> gets transmuted by the Full Attention

>> into Peace!

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> >

> > Byron is one of my favorite

> > teachers. She teaches a very powerful

> > method of thought inquiry called

> > *work*! This method involves

> > questioning thoughts to 'reveal' often

> > 'non existing' realities behind a

> > thought. This method is very effective

> > in dissolving many stressful thoughts

> > and in ensuring peace and harmony.

> >

> > < http://www.thework.com/ >

> >

> > < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doing-The-Work/ >

> >

> > < http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Loving-what-is/>

> >

> >

> >

> > However, my experience with " doing the work "

> > is that it must involve following:

> >

> > - Full Attention to the Present

> > Moment!

> >

> > - Clearly and Completely seeing of what

> > you " feel " at this Moment!

> >

> > - Clearly seeing of what you are thinking

> > at this Moment!

> >

> >

> > In my experience, true inquiry can not

> > happen until the " feeling " ; the

> > " resistance " to the present moment is

> > gone. This resistance [in every

> > situation that I am aware of] is felt

> > in the body.

> >

> > Full Attention dissolves this

> > resistance. But, until this resistance

> > [feeling] is gone... it keeps pulling

> > attention towards itself like a

> > throbbing wound. Partial attention

> > [that it automatically pulls] keeps it

> > alive; with full attention it is

> > clearly seen and gets dissolved.

> >

> >

> > This resistance [fragmented feeling]

> > comes due to many reasons including

> > Lack of Clarity [not clearly knowing

> > " what " , " why " , " how " of " what to do " in

> > the Present Moment]. Yet, once this

> > resistance has arisen the best thing is

> > to pay full attention to it and see it

> > clearly. Until that has happened mere

> > mental inquiry doesn't work as it stays

> > on the surface but this feeling runs

> > deep underneath!

> >

> > But, with Full Attention... not only

> > 'inquiry' becomes possible; sometimes,

> > the need for inquiry itself is gone as

> > what was previously 'felt' as 'unease'

> > gets transmuted by the Full Attention

> > into Peace!

> >

>

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