Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Does anyone know what happens specifically, when molds eat other molds, and is there any consistancy? My gut feeling is that sometimes the toxins would be broken down, but also that sometimes they would concentrate, with a bias towards concentration over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I think my cousin does something like this with bacteria in organic chemistry but he has already told me that his work is with bacteria only and does address (or use) fungi at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Also, you might want to take a look at this PDF file. It presents some very interesting findings regarding fungus and arthropods. Don't remember where I got it. Take care. Branislav <arealis@...> wrote: Microbiologicals for deactivating mycotoxins Schatzmayr, G., Zehner, F., Taubel, M., Schatzmayr, D., Klimitsch, A., Loibner, A. P. and Binder, E. M. Molecular Nutrition & Food Research. 2006; 50(6): 543-551. Article. IF 2,071 Mycotoxins are secondary metabolites of fungi affecting human and animal health. Five classes of mycotoxins are of major concern in animal husbandry, namely aflatoxins, trichothecenes, zearalenone, ochratoxins, and fumonisins. Due to their diverse structure these fungal toxins are able to cause a great variety of acute symptoms in animals. Clay minerals have been used in animal nutrition to bind mycotoxins, but the binders are only very specific for aflatoxins but not for other toxins. A novel strategy to control the problem of mycotoxicoses in animals is the application of microorganisms capable of biotransforming mycotoxins into nontoxic metabolites. The microbes act in the intestinal tract of animals prior to the resorption of the mycotoxins. A Eubacterium (BBSH 797) strain is able to deactivate trichothecenes by reduction of the epoxide ring (CAST, Mycotoxins, Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems, Task Force Report 139, Council of Agricultural Science and Technology, Ames Iowa 2003, p. 10.; Binder, E. M., Binder, J., Ellend, N., Schaffer, E. et al., in: Miraglia, M., van Egmond, H., Brera, C., Gilbert, J. (Eds.), Mycotoxins and Phycotoxins - Developments in Chemistry, Toxicology and Food Safety, Alaken, Fort 1996, pp. 279-285). This strain was isolated out of bovine rumen fluid and the mode of action was proven in vitro and also in vivo. ------------------------------------ I think this is very interesting. Do we have a farmer or someone who knows someone with proper credentials, who would be able to obtain this Eubacterium (BBSH 797) - the market name of the product is Biomin? Then we could perform controlled experiments and estimate how it would fare as far as decomposition of mycotoxins on common objects is concerned. Who knows, maybe it turns out to be our Holy Grail? In His Service, Young <>< --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Hi , I can't see any PDF file or a link to it in your message. Can you send it again? I'm primarily interested in deactivation of trichothecene mycotoxins. Microbiologicals for deactivating mycotoxins > > Schatzmayr, G., Zehner, F., Taubel, M., Schatzmayr, D., Klimitsch, A., > Loibner, A. P. and Binder, E. M. > > Molecular Nutrition & Food Research. 2006; 50(6): 543-551. Article. IF > 2,071 > > Mycotoxins are secondary metabolites of fungi affecting human and > animal health. Five classes of mycotoxins are of major concern in > animal husbandry, namely aflatoxins, trichothecenes, zearalenone, > ochratoxins, and fumonisins. Due to their diverse structure these > fungal toxins are able to cause a great variety of acute symptoms in > animals. Clay minerals have been used in animal nutrition to bind > mycotoxins, but the binders are only very specific for aflatoxins but > not for other toxins. A novel strategy to control the problem of > mycotoxicoses in animals is the application of microorganisms capable > of biotransforming mycotoxins into nontoxic metabolites. The microbes > act in the intestinal tract of animals prior to the resorption of the > mycotoxins. A Eubacterium (BBSH 797) strain is able to deactivate > trichothecenes by reduction of the epoxide ring (CAST, Mycotoxins, > Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems, Task Force Report 139, > Council of Agricultural Science and Technology, Ames Iowa 2003, p. > 10.; Binder, E. M., Binder, J., Ellend, N., Schaffer, E. et al., in: > Miraglia, M., van Egmond, H., Brera, C., Gilbert, J. (Eds.), > Mycotoxins and Phycotoxins - Developments in Chemistry, Toxicology and > Food Safety, Alaken, Fort 1996, pp. 279-285). This strain was > isolated out of bovine rumen fluid and the mode of action was proven > in vitro and also in vivo. > > ------------------------------------ > > I think this is very interesting. Do we have a farmer or someone who > knows someone with proper credentials, who would be able to obtain > this Eubacterium (BBSH 797) - the market name of the product is > Biomin? Then we could perform controlled experiments and estimate how > it would fare as far as decomposition of mycotoxins on common objects > is concerned. > > Who knows, maybe it turns out to be our Holy Grail? > > > > > > > In His Service, > Young <>< > > > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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