Re: Using vinegar on fungal infections

[Guest guest]

How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you have to

use it over a long period?

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic itchy,

> scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for swimmer's

> ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> >

> > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is a bit

> gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole area

> feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin. ITCHY.

> Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> >

> > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> >

> > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared up,

> pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> >

> > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming back),

> now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and mold

> and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to trip my

> system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which doesn't

seem

> to really be helping it.

> >

> > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy. And

> I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and hydrocortisone

Otic

> Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol drops...and

> alternative treatments with:

> > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil (I felt

> sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

water,

> oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic acid,

would

> sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help decrease the

> itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the issue.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Chris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

What are you using it for? If it is ear infections (swimmer's ear)

normally just one treatment usually works and then once a month for

prevention. Anything else it may take several applications. I've

never mixed it with anything I've always used it straight. Again,

this is my personal experience, I am not a doctor.

KC

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic itchy,

> > scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

swimmer's

> > ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> > >

> > > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is a

bit

> > gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

area

> > feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

ITCHY.

> > Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> > >

> > > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> > >

> > > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

up,

> > pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> > >

> > > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

back),

> > now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

mold

> > and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to trip

my

> > system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which doesn't

> seem

> > to really be helping it.

> > >

> > > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

And

> > I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and hydrocortisone

> Otic

> > Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

drops...and

> > alternative treatments with:

> > > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil (I

felt

> > sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

> water,

> > oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic acid,

> would

> > sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help decrease

the

> > itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

issue.

> > >

> > > Any ideas?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Chris

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Using it for toenail fungus.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

itchy,

> > > scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

> swimmer's

> > > ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> > > >

> > > > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is a

> bit

> > > gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

> area

> > > feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

> ITCHY.

> > > Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> > > >

> > > > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> > > >

> > > > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

> up,

> > > pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> > > >

> > > > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

> back),

> > > now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

> mold

> > > and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

trip

> my

> > > system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which doesn't

> > seem

> > > to really be helping it.

> > > >

> > > > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

> And

> > > I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and hydrocortisone

> > Otic

> > > Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

> drops...and

> > > alternative treatments with:

> > > > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil (I

> felt

> > > sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

> > water,

> > > oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic acid,

> > would

> > > sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help decrease

> the

> > > itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

> issue.

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Hopefully this will be easier than you think and in my experience

with others that have had this condition, for 5 or 6 years and on

mega doses of antifungals (sporanox)with no relief. After soaking

their feet in white vinegar twice a day for several minutes, within

2 weeks the infection started slowly clearing up. Exboss didn't

believe me because the remedy was too simple, but was thrilled. Now

if your toe nails are lifted and it's raw, it will sting real bad.

If this is the case, start off with a spray bottle and then preceed

when you can soaking.

When my wife gets a skin infection and these normally occur from a

minor scratch, she just takes a cotton ball, soaks it and then

applies a gauge pad on top and tapes it. Within two days the

infection is gone. She does apply this several times during the day.

Good luck and let me know how things go.

KC

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

> itchy,

> > > > scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

> > swimmer's

> > > > ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> > > > >

> > > > > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that

is a

> > bit

> > > > gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the

whole

> > area

> > > > feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

> > ITCHY.

> > > > Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> > > > >

> > > > > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really

flared

> > up,

> > > > pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> > > > >

> > > > > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

> > back),

> > > > now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS

and

> > mold

> > > > and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

> trip

> > my

> > > > system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which

doesn't

> > > seem

> > > > to really be helping it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an

allergy.

> > And

> > > > I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and

hydrocortisone

> > > Otic

> > > > Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

> > drops...and

> > > > alternative treatments with:

> > > > > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil

(I

> > felt

> > > > sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed

with

> > > water,

> > > > oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic

acid,

> > > would

> > > > sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help

decrease

> > the

> > > > itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

> > issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Chris

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Try Vick's Vapor Rub!! I heard it cures toenail fungus...Dr Gotts

gets great reviews on this remendy in his news paper column.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

> itchy,

> > > > scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

> > swimmer's

> > > > ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> > > > >

> > > > > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is

a

> > bit

> > > > gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

> > area

> > > > feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

> > ITCHY.

> > > > Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> > > > >

> > > > > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

> > up,

> > > > pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> > > > >

> > > > > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

> > back),

> > > > now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

> > mold

> > > > and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

> trip

> > my

> > > > system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which

doesn't

> > > seem

> > > > to really be helping it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

> > And

> > > > I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and

hydrocortisone

> > > Otic

> > > > Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

> > drops...and

> > > > alternative treatments with:

> > > > > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil

(I

> > felt

> > > > sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

> > > water,

> > > > oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic

acid,

> > > would

> > > > sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help

decrease

> > the

> > > > itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

> > issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Chris

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If vinegar doesn't do the trick for some reason, you might try Tagetes

minuta essential oil (synonym: Tagetes angustifolia). It's

specifically used for skin fungus (esp. athletes foot). It's a very

powerful antifungal, but no big pharma will ever use it because it

can't be patented. Also acts as a mild sedative and dilates lungs.

Careful if you have MCS. I don't have MCS and don't know if it would

hurt someone with MCS. Its scent is relatively mild, reminds me of

apple and lemon. The people in South Africa have used this herb for

making a beverage for a long time.

Be warned, howeever, that it has no effect on mycotoxins whatsoever.

Handle it only when you are in clean clothes, and uncontaminated with

mold/toxins.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

> itchy,

> > > > scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

> > swimmer's

> > > > ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> > > > >

> > > > > When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is a

> > bit

> > > > gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

> > area

> > > > feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

> > ITCHY.

> > > > Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> > > > >

> > > > > If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

> > up,

> > > > pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> > > > >

> > > > > After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

> > back),

> > > > now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

> > mold

> > > > and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

> trip

> > my

> > > > system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which doesn't

> > > seem

> > > > to really be helping it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

> > And

> > > > I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and hydrocortisone

> > > Otic

> > > > Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

> > drops...and

> > > > alternative treatments with:

> > > > > oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil (I

> > felt

> > > > sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

> > > water,

> > > > oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic acid,

> > > would

> > > > sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help decrease

> > the

> > > > itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

> > issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Chris

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vicks is HIGHLY TOXIC for those with chemcial injury. Aside from the

menthol, there is phenol and eucalyptus in it.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, jackiebreeze wrote:

> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:43:27 -0000

> From: jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] Re: Using vinegar on fungal infections

>

> Try Vick's Vapor Rub!! I heard it cures toenail fungus...Dr Gotts

> gets great reviews on this remendy in his news paper column.

>

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

>> itchy,

>>>>> scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

>>> swimmer's

>>>>> ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is

> a

>>> bit

>>>>> gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

>>> area

>>>>> feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

>>> ITCHY.

>>>>> Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

>>> up,

>>>>> pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

>>> back),

>>>>> now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

>>> mold

>>>>> and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

>> trip

>>> my

>>>>> system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which

> doesn't

>>>> seem

>>>>> to really be helping it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

>>> And

>>>>> I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and

> hydrocortisone

>>>> Otic

>>>>> Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

>>> drops...and

>>>>> alternative treatments with:

>>>>>> oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil

> (I

>>> felt

>>>>> sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

>>>> water,

>>>>> oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic

> acid,

>>>> would

>>>>> sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help

> decrease

>>> the

>>>>> itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

>>> issue.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Any ideas?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>> Chris

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, what do you recommend for toenail fungus??? Where did you get

this information?

If one has a really bad fungus, they need to get rid of it ASAP. I

use to be a cosmetologist/barber and a fungus is no playing and

beating around the bush matter. There are drugs marketed for

toenail fungus but most go straight to the liver. I rather use a

little Vick's vapor rub on my toes than to digest some of the drugs

recommended for treatment. As far as what is toxic for people with

chemical sensitivities, each sensitive individual needs to decide for

themself. I have MCS and I am not sensitive to Vicks at all.

For some of us with mold allergies and some who have been posioned by

mold, vinegar can bring on a reaction! During my time of exposure, I

could not get near vinegar. I know it has great reviews but

sometimes I can tolerate cleaning with it and other times I can't.

Sometimes I can even bath in it and it does not bother me...same with

cheese and all of the other stuff I am allergic to. An allergist

once told me that one with mold allergies should not use vinegar and

not ingest any foods containing vinegar....do not mistake what I an

saying because some people who have been made ill by mold do not have

allergies to mold and some do. When I am really sick and having a

bad time, I can't use vinegar which is the number 1 recommended

natural product for mold prevention. I know it works as I have seen

it work but it is not for all of us all of the time.

What treatment for fungus would you recommend and why? Also, do you

have the data to back up your statement? When someone says such and

such is wrong, it is nice to have the statements backed up with

proven facts so we can see this from a scientific or proven

prospective instead of just hearsay.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Hi all,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Wondering if anyone else has had a problem with chronic

> >> itchy,

> >>>>> scaly outer ears? This started after getting treated for

> >>> swimmer's

> >>>>> ear. It's been 2 1/2 years now...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> When it flares up, my ears will 'drain' clear fluid that is

> > a

> >>> bit

> >>>>> gummy and this coats the outer ear area. Meanwhile, the whole

> >>> area

> >>>>> feels like tiny microorganisms running races across my skin.

> >>> ITCHY.

> >>>>> Most of the time, this fluid has a slightly yeasty smell...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> If you've had this problem, have you found any solution?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I've had diagnosis of seborrhea and when it's really flared

> >>> up,

> >>>>> pseudemonis (bacterial infection from the itching i think).

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> After trying everything under the sun (and it just coming

> >>> back),

> >>>>> now I'm wondering if it could be mold related. I have MCS and

> >>> mold

> >>>>> and fragrances are my two biggies that have and continue to

> >> trip

> >>> my

> >>>>> system. I am back on a strict anti-candida diet, which

> > doesn't

> >>>> seem

> >>>>> to really be helping it.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I've gone through my foods, etc. to see if it's an allergy.

> >>> And

> >>>>> I've tried Neomycin and Polymyxin B sulfates and

> > hydrocortisone

> >>>> Otic

> >>>>> Solution USP, Floxin (ofloxacin), tobramycin, acetasol

> >>> drops...and

> >>>>> alternative treatments with:

> >>>>>> oregano oil in almond oil, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil

> > (I

> >>> felt

> >>>>> sick from the fumes of this), caprylic acid powder mixed with

> >>>> water,

> >>>>> oregano oil in jojoba oil. All of these, except caprylic

> > acid,

> >>>> would

> >>>>> sting when I would put on the skin; but it would help

> > decrease

> >>> the

> >>>>> itchiness. Oregano oil helped somewhat but didn?t solve the

> >>> issue.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Any ideas?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Thanks,

> >>>>>> Chris

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The label on the cpontainer confirms the ingredients. As you well know,

with MCS phenol is a major allergen.

Everyone with MCS reacts to different substances, and I know and learned

it in medical school to use it as a " natural " remedy, but with senitvities

it's not a safe choice.

Since the fungus enjoys a " mosit " environment, there are some more

" normally safe " items to try.

Actually applying aDROP on a toothpick of Everclear booze works to dry out

the nail. Keeping nails dry as possible. It seems that the alchol in

SMALL amounts acts as a drying agent. In the sports medicine atheltic

training arena they also use tea tree oil at a 4% concentration.

My information comes from my undergrad degree in sports injury management

and the naturopathic medical school I went to.

The worst thing about MCS is that there is no cookie cutter protocol for

everyone. Then again some people cna not tolerate alcohol, nor tea tree

oil.

I agree the anitfungal drugs reek havoic on the liver.

Also, it's not unusual to liteally drill a SMALL hole where the fungus is

and apply alcohol directly into it. OR file the nail down enough to try

to remove some of the fungus.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, jackiebreeze wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:58:06 -0000

> From: jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] Re: Using vinegar on fungal infections

>

> Well, what do you recommend for toenail fungus??? Where did you get

> this information?

>

> If one has a really bad fungus, they need to get rid of it ASAP. I

> use to be a cosmetologist/barber and a fungus is no playing and

> beating around the bush matter. There are drugs marketed for

> toenail fungus but most go straight to the liver. I rather use a

> little Vick's vapor rub on my toes than to digest some of the drugs

> recommended for treatment. As far as what is toxic for people with

> chemical sensitivities, each sensitive individual needs to decide for

> themself. I have MCS and I am not sensitive to Vicks at all.

>

> For some of us with mold allergies and some who have been posioned by

> mold, vinegar can bring on a reaction! During my time of exposure, I

> could not get near vinegar. I know it has great reviews but

> sometimes I can tolerate cleaning with it and other times I can't.

> Sometimes I can even bath in it and it does not bother me...same with

> cheese and all of the other stuff I am allergic to. An allergist

> once told me that one with mold allergies should not use vinegar and

> not ingest any foods containing vinegar....do not mistake what I an

> saying because some people who have been made ill by mold do not have

> allergies to mold and some do. When I am really sick and having a

> bad time, I can't use vinegar which is the number 1 recommended

> natural product for mold prevention. I know it works as I have seen

> it work but it is not for all of us all of the time.

>

> What treatment for fungus would you recommend and why? Also, do you

> have the data to back up your statement? When someone says such and

> such is wrong, it is nice to have the statements backed up with

> proven facts so we can see this from a scientific or proven

> prospective instead of just hearsay.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I can't handle tea tree oil. I break out!! LOL!!

But, the Vick's never bothered me. I did not know

Phenol was an allergen. My doctor once said I had the

worst allergies he had ever seen but no one mentioned

Vick's being an issue for me. I have multiple

chemical sensitives to a bad degree. I have searched

and searched the internet about your claim that Vick's

is toxic and can't find anything except one article

said people shouldn't put it on the nose. I like to

be able to read an article or something supporting

facts.

As far as Alchol, it is not a cure for nail fungus.

Believe me, I have dealt with more fungus in my

business than I cared to. I had to stop the service of

manicures and pedicures due to the public lax attitude

on nail fungus. A fungus is contagious period. It is

like the old saying goes, there is no shame in getting

head lice, the shame is not doing ones best to get rid

of it by proper treatment. Same goes for fungus of

nails. Too many people walking around with this

contagious stuff and they could care less who they

infect...shame on them! It's not an incurable deadly

disease, it is not going to kill them so they don't

care and too many folks are content in keeping it. I

take proper treatment very serious when it is a

disease that can be passed to another. I had a fungus

myself many years ago and had my fingernail drilled

and drained. The doctor applied medicine to the hole

and what ever it was, healed it. I had to rid myself

of this ASAP because my work would not allowed me to

work with others and be contagious. I caught it from a

client! Sometimes I can't help but wonder if being

exposed to so much fungus had the greatest in pact on

my declining health. This is something I don't know

and may never know. I just know there are far too

many people walking around with this contagious stuff!

But after being in the grooming business so many

years, I saw many with fungus's and the ones who had

it, never cared to get proper treatment. They

expected us to work on their hair and feet without

concern or care how contagious it was. they would be

in denial and try to make us believe it was not really

a fungus or want us to believe their claim it was not

contagious. We knew what fungus was just as we knew

what head lice was.

When we discuss scalp, skin or nail fungus, many times

I have to walk away because it really gets under my

skin on how lax the public is in getting rid of this

contagious stuff. There are a very few who do go to

doctors and can't seem to rid themselves of a fungal

infection but that is like 2% of the people who have

fungal infections that are resistant to most

treatment. These were folks who were either already

suffering a horrible illness or folks on some

medications.

But for most of the folks with curable fungus, it was

a lax, don't care attitude. I am not talking about

poor people who could not afford to see a doctor or

get help, I am talking of those who have plenty and

could had the best treatment money could buy. I can't

understand why the public tends to think of a fungus

as nothing. Anything that is contagious must be taken

serious, period.

But as being one with MCS, Vick's does not bother me

at all. I am sure it can be a bother to some, just as

anything else can be.

As for my alcoholic friend, the last thing I would

recommend is vodka for a fungus.

We can find bad in about anything and everything. We

are individuals, we take what is best for us and leave

the rest. For my 90 year old mother who can't use

many treatments for her nail fungus, Vick's is best

for her. She is 90 and being one who suffered from

allergies as well, she is still alive and doing great

in her old age! Vick's has not hurt her! Vick's may

not be for everyone but it is fine for me and my

family. Vick's is not the best cure for fungus but it

beats the heck out of doing nothing!

Here are a few interesting articles I found:

http://www.web2biz.info/how-to-treat-toe-nail-fungus-disease

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-153080.html

What seems to be the healing agent, thymol...I assume

this is the same as phenol??:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary & va=thymol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymol

EPA on Thymol...seems bugs don't like it either!

http://www.epa.gov/REDs/factsheets/3143fact.pdf

Listerine even contains this:

http://www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/thymolwebpage.html

Here is a brand that is used for fungus of nails:

Amoresse Thymol

http://www.healthcentral.com/peoplespharmacy/pp_guides/PDF/vicks02.pdf

BTW,

You mentioned medical school, what was your major?

Oh well, I am burned out on the search and I can see

where you can feel it is toxic but as far as I can

see, it is in the usage of the product. I found

nothing about Everclear curing fungus...but I did find

an article that said it cured the common cold!! Don't

we wish!!

--- Angel says NO MORE 2 Clarins

<jap2bemc@...> wrote:

>

>

> The label on the cpontainer confirms the

> ingredients. As you well know,

> with MCS phenol is a major allergen.

>

[Guest guest]

Obviously you have to find what works for you, whether it's Vicks,

vinegar or whichever. Everyone reacts differently, some more

sensitive than others. Whether certain treatments or medications can

have a negative reaction on some individuals, this is what we must

find out for ourselves. Just like everything else proceed with

caution at your own risk.

I've heard several times Vicks being used for nail infections with a

positive results. Big Pharma and physicians were playin this down

several years ago more or less saying not possible. Well I guess

their opinions have changed, now from what I understand there is a

new product on the market a spinoff of Vicks for nail infections. I

remember the name of it. Those who have used it would apply the

Vicks to toenail infections, wrapped in gauze and slip a sock on for

the evening. Bottomline, whatever works.

KC

>

> Well, I can't handle tea tree oil. I break out!! LOL!!

>

> But, the Vick's never bothered me. I did not know

> Phenol was an allergen. My doctor once said I had the

> worst allergies he had ever seen but no one mentioned

> Vick's being an issue for me. I have multiple

> chemical sensitives to a bad degree. I have searched

> and searched the internet about your claim that Vick's

> is toxic and can't find anything except one article

> said people shouldn't put it on the nose. I like to

> be able to read an article or something supporting

> facts.

[Guest guest]

I am a little touchy when it comes to scalp, skin and nail fungus.

When I worked in a salon, I would tell people to go to a doctor and

etc. When they refused to do so and I refused to service them, they

would go to another salon to a person who would give them service

(even thought state rules and policy says to not service a person

with any fungus or contagious problems.) Then they would say bad

things about me because I refused to service them..believe me word

got back but I quickly told why and most of the time the other

stylist would say, " well we got to suck those things up and go ahead

and service them! " I am sure no one disinfected their shampoo bowls

nor tools. Believe me, no one rarely cleans anything in a salon.

That is one reason why I no longer go to a salon nor work in one.

They are all nasty. They might look clean but one can't see grems.

The shampoo bowls have client after client and never disinfected

between each client. Management did not want anyone stopping to

disinfect anything either. It was always hurry hurry to rake in that

money. Heck, I have been called out for being too clean and even

scolded! There was one incident where the fungus toenails germs

got caught around a drain. A 14 year old girl became ill with the

skin eating dieass. Come to find out it was from the filthy bowl she

soaked her feet in. Only thing that is noted to killing this germ

is pouring clorox down the drain after each pedicure. No one does

that in the grooming service business. No one sterlizes...if so,

very few do.

I am sorry but I get really ticked off thinking about how lax people

are when it comes to this. The people with fungus and other skin,

hair and nail issues won't do anything about the problems and the

other stylist will go ahead and service them and will not use proper

santization measures. Then others are exposed to this filth. It is

all because people are selfish and self centered. The person with the

fungus or contagious issue do not care and most of the time they are

in denial and say it is an allergic reaction or some other lame

excuse. They just want service even though they are a health threat

to others. The sorry cosmetologist or barber are only concerned

about the money and downing the stylist who refused them, so he or

she wil look good. It ain't no wonder so many are ill. People with

these problems need to get rid of it and stop lagging around doing

not much of anything. The stylists need to stop servicing them.

Forget turning them in to the state board, just another good ole boy

system.... Funguses are highly contagious! PERIOD!

Ok, I will turn my back now and take a break from fungal...my low

blood pressure is rising to normal!

BTW,

For those of you who go to barbers and stylist, you all may want to

consider taking your own brushes and combs with you....got to make

sure it is the right comb used in hair cutting by your stylist.

Oh, those weekly hair sets women get...guess how often those rollers

are washed??? NEVER!

> >

> > Well, I can't handle tea tree oil. I break out!! LOL!!

> >

> > But, the Vick's never bothered me. I did not know

> > Phenol was an allergen. My doctor once said I had the

> > worst allergies he had ever seen but no one mentioned

> > Vick's being an issue for me. I have multiple

> > chemical sensitives to a bad degree. I have searched

> > and searched the internet about your claim that Vick's

> > is toxic and can't find anything except one article

> > said people shouldn't put it on the nose. I like to

> > be able to read an article or something supporting

> > facts.

>

[Guest guest]

J wrote:

> Well, I can't handle tea tree oil. I break out!! LOL!!

>

> But, the Vick's never bothered me. I did not know

> Phenol was an allergen.

It is to some people. It is to me. I was tested and it came up as well

as a multitude of other chemicals. I have MCS also.

My doctor once said I had the

> worst allergies he had ever seen but no one mentioned

> Vick's being an issue for me. I have multiple

> chemical sensitives to a bad degree. I have searched

> and searched the internet about your claim that Vick's

> is toxic and can't find anything except one article

> said people shouldn't put it on the nose. I like to

> be able to read an article or something supporting

> facts.

I don't worry about the product so much anymore as much as research the

ingredients in it.

Also, everyone is different with different sensitivities so while you

may be ok with phenols, it would set me off.

The best thing to do is to determine what chemicals you react to and

then it's a lot easier just checking out the ingredients list.

There's several MCS email lists that are a great source of information.

--

Haynes

L'Amable, Ontario

" Sanity and insanity overlap a fine grey line. "

[Guest guest]

I am going to a doctor in Ga next week. I am told she works with

people with MCS, allergies and mold victims. I am at a low point

right now. I have been feeling so horrible. I am not using vicks or

anything at all...I don't have fungus so I don't need it. I can't

hardly keep my house clean without having reactions and getting sick

for days. I use a plan rag dampened with water to dust and mop..this

has been a real drag as of late. I always feel like I have a flu,

body aches, runny nose, sore throat...just feel bad al of the time.

Especially now.

>

> > Well, I can't handle tea tree oil. I break out!! LOL!!

> >

> > But, the Vick's never bothered me. I did not know

> > Phenol was an allergen.

>

> It is to some people. It is to me. I was tested and it came up as

well

> as a multitude of other chemicals. I have MCS also.

>

> My doctor once said I had the

> > worst allergies he had ever seen but no one mentioned

> > Vick's being an issue for me. I have multiple

> > chemical sensitives to a bad degree. I have searched

> > and searched the internet about your claim that Vick's

> > is toxic and can't find anything except one article

> > said people shouldn't put it on the nose. I like to

> > be able to read an article or something supporting

> > facts.

>

> I don't worry about the product so much anymore as much as research

the

> ingredients in it.

>

> Also, everyone is different with different sensitivities so while

you

> may be ok with phenols, it would set me off.

>

> The best thing to do is to determine what chemicals you react to

and

> then it's a lot easier just checking out the ingredients list.

>

> There's several MCS email lists that are a great source of

information.

>

>

> --

> Haynes

> L'Amable, Ontario

>

> " Sanity and insanity overlap a fine grey line. "

>

[Guest guest]

jackiebreeze wrote:

> I am going to a doctor in Ga next week. I am told she works with

> people with MCS, allergies and mold victims. I am at a low point

> right now. I have been feeling so horrible. I am not using vicks or

> anything at all...I don't have fungus so I don't need it. I can't

> hardly keep my house clean without having reactions and getting sick

> for days. I use a plan rag dampened with water to dust and mop..this

> has been a real drag as of late. I always feel like I have a flu,

> body aches, runny nose, sore throat...just feel bad al of the time.

> Especially now.

I assume it's Jackie?

I highly recommend this group

MCS-CanadianSources/

It's a fantastic source of info on MCS and related illnesses and a great

support network too.

So many things in your house could be bothering you. I'd really

recommend taking ALL the chemicals and cleaners and soaps out of the

house for a while.

It's difficult to do all at once but if you can get some cooperation

from the rest of the family and only use them as needed and store them

outside your living space, that'd be a good start.

Have you done anything to clean up your indoor environment?

Here's a link to some basics from our group

http://tinyurl.com/38ezje

If you want to chat off list, I'm willing to do whatever I can.

I'm fairly new to MCS, started in 2003 for me, so I still remember what

it was like having to deal with everything.

bikesrme@....

Where are you located?

--

Haynes

L'Amable, Ontario

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's me!!

Thanks for the link!! I need a good excuse to stop cleaning...I will

tell my faimly, I can't clean, we have nothing to clean with. LOL!!

I willl check out the group!! Thanks!!

>

> > I am going to a doctor in Ga next week. I am told she works with

> > people with MCS, allergies and mold victims. I am at a low point

> > right now. I have been feeling so horrible. I am not using

vicks or

> > anything at all...I don't have fungus so I don't need it. I can't

> > hardly keep my house clean without having reactions and getting

sick

> > for days. I use a plan rag dampened with water to dust and

mop..this

> > has been a real drag as of late. I always feel like I have a flu,

> > body aches, runny nose, sore throat...just feel bad al of the

time.

> > Especially now.

>

>

> I assume it's Jackie?

>

> I highly recommend this group

> MCS-CanadianSources/

>

> It's a fantastic source of info on MCS and related illnesses and a

great

> support network too.

>

> So many things in your house could be bothering you. I'd really

> recommend taking ALL the chemicals and cleaners and soaps out of

the

> house for a while.

>

> It's difficult to do all at once but if you can get some

cooperation

> from the rest of the family and only use them as needed and store

them

> outside your living space, that'd be a good start.

>

> Have you done anything to clean up your indoor environment?

>

> Here's a link to some basics from our group

> http://tinyurl.com/38ezje

>

> If you want to chat off list, I'm willing to do whatever I can.

>

> I'm fairly new to MCS, started in 2003 for me, so I still remember

what

> it was like having to deal with everything.

>

> bikesrme@...

>

> Where are you located?

>

>

>

> --

> Haynes

> L'Amable, Ontario

>

[Guest guest]

For dusting have you ever tried those pledge static type cloths.

There are several brands but they don't have any chemical that I can

detect. I clean with just baking soda, bonami, vinegar and lemon and

maybe a little fragrance free laundry detergent. I use to use all

those other products. Vinegar is sometimes difficult to breathe too

much, but I use it some to get rid of germs. I also rinse my toes

everytime I get out of the shower with vinegar or alcohol for

preventive toe fungus. I have so much yeast. The other day my belly

was itching so much I sprayed a little vinegar on my belly and back.

It stung for a second. benedryl helps for the itchiness also. Just my

tips, everyone can't use vinegar; my husband hates it so I use it

while he is away and it can air out.

>

> > I am going to a doctor in Ga next week. I am told she works with

> > people with MCS, allergies and mold victims. I am at a low point

> > right now. I have been feeling so horrible. I am not using

vicks or

> > anything at all...I don't have fungus so I don't need it. I can't

> > hardly keep my house clean without having reactions and getting

sick

> > for days. I use a plan rag dampened with water to dust and

mop..this

> > has been a real drag as of late. I always feel like I have a flu,

> > body aches, runny nose, sore throat

[Guest guest]

Has anyone used some vinegar in a neti pot to see if that helps sinus

infections??

--- In , " charlesb35 " <charlesb35@...>

wrote:

>

> How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you have to

> use it over a long period?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would never try that!!!! LOL!! I have been tested for mold allergies

too many times and my doctor once said to avoid vinegar. I clean with

it from time to time but I would not put it up my noise...it may be

safe but I am too afraid to try it.

> >

> > How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you have

to

> > use it over a long period?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i HAVEN'T TRIED IT BUT THOUGHT SERIOUSLY ABOUT. WHAT STOPPED ME IS

THINKING ABOUT HOW BAD THESE SORES UP IN THERE WOULD BURN. IF YOU TRY

IT LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES.

> >

> > How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you have

to

> > use it over a long period?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vinegar works great my friend feet will send you running I have him put vinegar

or Alcohol of the feet it takes away the bad order and heal the problem.

Yes it sting but worth every sting I also use it on the floors and every thing

else as much as I can it helps a lot.

Elvira

[] Re: Using vinegar on fungal infections

i HAVEN'T TRIED IT BUT THOUGHT SERIOUSLY ABOUT. WHAT STOPPED ME IS

THINKING ABOUT HOW BAD THESE SORES UP IN THERE WOULD BURN. IF YOU TRY

IT LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES.

> >

> > How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you have

to

> > use it over a long period?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I DONT HAVE ANY FOOT FUNGUS, BUT I REALIZED THAT I CANT WEAR LEATHER

SHOES OR EVEN LEATHER SANDLES AS IT MAKES MY FEET IRRITATED NOW AND

LEADS TO FOOT FUNGUS. I THINK THIS MAY BE A REACTION FROM

FORMALGAHIDE.

>

> Vinegar works great my friend feet will send you running I have him

put vinegar or Alcohol of the feet it takes away the bad order and

heal the problem.

>

> Yes it sting but worth every sting I also use it on the floors and

every thing else as much as I can it helps a lot.

>

> Elvira

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is a nasal sinus spray on the market. I think it's called

Sinofresh. It's quite expensive.

[Guest guest]

I may try it very diluted. Heck the salty water burns me too, so I'm

used to it being a little painful. Must be doing it wrong.

>

> I would never try that!!!! LOL!! I have been tested for mold

allergies

> too many

[Guest guest]

Barb,

We did not use the vinegar in a neti pot, but we did have it in a

vaporizer in the bathroom. (door closed) She (Sharon) could only

stay in there less than 5 mins, it got real strong and hard to

breath. Only did this a couple of times, so I don't know if it had

any positive affect. We were doing this for her lungs, not a sinus

infection.

KC

> >

> > How much do you use and how often? Is once enough or do you

have to

> > use it over a long period?

> >

> >

>