Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 My nephew does asbesto removial. They literially go in with special space like suites. They are covered from head to toe and wear special breathing gear to keep from breathing toxins. Now my deceased father on the other hand said he used the stuff all of his life and it did not harm him. This was before it was a known health threat...he had a host of issues that were blamed on some horrible accidents he had but who knows what affect it had on him. My older sisters said we use to play in asbesto piles when we were young and that could had contributed to our inherited liver conditions..but who knows what causes what! There is so much stuff in the enviroment that can make us ill, it is no telling...btw, I don't remember playing in asbesto! My older sisters tend to not tell things right anyway so I take them with a grain of salt! > > Hi all, > > I know it's been awhile. But I have a quick question. As my husband and > I have worked through the possible mold issue, we discovered that we > have the original tile in our home (50+ years old). We've been told it > is made from asbestos. We know that the tile is falling apart in places > where there is not carpeting over it. Is there a quick easy solution to > cleaning this up? Can having this tile in our home be contributing to > some of the illness problems we have? > > TIA > > -- > W. > reneewo@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I once owned a home that was over 50 years old also. The bathroom had those old tiles. I couldn't help notice how much mold was growing in the grout. If I hadn't moved, I would have had all those tiles replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 , Asbestos has not been connected with allergy, asthma type problems like mold or chemicals have. Asbestos is very specific - lung cancer - and it takes approximately 20-30 years or more after heavy or consistent exposures before it (usually) occurs. If the asbestos containing material (something that has asbestos in it because it doesn't have to be only asbestos itself) is not disturbed you won't be exposed. No exposure, no harm. The best way to contain it is to leave it alone where it is. Or a sealant can be applied or another method of isolating it. Removal disturbs it and can lead to exposure. With your old tile in a failing condition you have been exposed. But is it enough for a long enough period of times? How long has it been breaking up? It's already been 50 years without lung cancer. Keeping it covered or applying a sealant may be enough. If it is removed you need to be aware of how much material (sq feet) will be removed so you can comply with Federal and State laws. Check state and federal laws about asbestos and asbestos inspection and asbestos removal requirements. Usually if the total area is less than about 100 square feet (it varies) you can do it yourself without violating law. But you MUST check the laws to be sure! Start with the EPA at http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/ One of the EPA pages is specifically for asbestos in homes: http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/pubs/ashome.html Check with your state, also. Colorado, my state, has an excellent Web site with SPECIFIC instructions and excellent advise. http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/index.html One of their fact sheets is at: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/renodemo.pdf Your state may be different so be sure to check it with the proper authorities (I am not one! Especially for other states!) Unlike mold, asbestos has Permissible Exposure Limits along with definitive sampling methods, lab analysis and interpretations. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Hi all, > > I know it's been awhile. But I have a quick question. As my husband and > I have worked through the possible mold issue, we discovered that we > have the original tile in our home (50+ years old). We've been told it > is made from asbestos. We know that the tile is falling apart in places > where there is not carpeting over it. Is there a quick easy solution to > cleaning this up? Can having this tile in our home be contributing to > some of the illness problems we have? > > TIA > > -- > W. > reneewo@... > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Thanks! We have long term goals for this house and just wanted to make sure that it was okay to leave the tile alone until we can afford to do what needs to be done. n Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:48:42 -0600 " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: > , > > Asbestos has not been connected with allergy, asthma type problems > like mold or chemicals have. Asbestos is very specific - lung cancer - > and it takes approximately 20-30 years or more after heavy or > consistent exposures before it (usually) occurs. > > If the asbestos containing material (something that has asbestos in > it because it doesn't have to be only asbestos itself) is not > disturbed you won't be exposed. No exposure, no harm. The best way to > contain it is to leave it alone where it is. Or a sealant can be > applied or another method of isolating it. Removal disturbs it and > can lead to exposure. > > With your old tile in a failing condition you have been exposed. But > is it enough for a long enough period of times? How long has it been > breaking up? It's already been 50 years without lung cancer. Keeping > it covered or applying a sealant may be enough. If it is removed you > need to be aware of how much material (sq feet) will be removed so > you can comply with Federal and State laws. > > Check state and federal laws about asbestos and asbestos inspection > and asbestos removal requirements. Usually if the total area is less > than about 100 square feet (it varies) you can do it yourself without > violating law. But you MUST check the laws to be sure! > > Start with the EPA at http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/ > One of the EPA pages is specifically for asbestos in homes: > http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/pubs/ashome.html > > Check with your state, also. Colorado, my state, has an excellent Web > site with SPECIFIC instructions and excellent advise. > http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/index.html > One of their fact sheets is at: > http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/renodemo.pdf > > Your state may be different so be sure to check it with the proper > authorities (I am not one! Especially for other states!) Unlike > mold, asbestos has Permissible Exposure Limits along with definitive > sampling methods, lab analysis and interpretations. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > > Hi all, > > > > I know it's been awhile. But I have a quick question. As my husband > > and I have worked through the possible mold issue, we discovered > > that we have the original tile in our home (50+ years old). We've > > been told it is made from asbestos. We know that the tile is > > falling apart in places where there is not carpeting over it. Is > > there a quick easy solution to cleaning this up? Can having this > > tile in our home be contributing to some of the illness problems we > > have? > > > > TIA > > > > -- > > W. > > reneewo@... > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 , You're welcome. However I need to make one clarification about leaving the tile alone as it is. The areas where it is " falling apart in places " may need to be addressed. If there are small pieces crumbling into dust they should be carefully cleaned and then protect the rest from more disturbance. An occasional chip requires less action. If you aren't sure about the situation contact me off-line to discuss the distinctions. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Thanks! We have long term goals for this house and just wanted to make > sure that it was okay to leave the tile alone until we can afford to do > what needs to be done. > > n Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:48:42 -0600 > " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: > > > , > > > > Asbestos has not been connected with allergy, asthma type problems > > like mold or chemicals have. Asbestos is very specific - lung cancer - > > and it takes approximately 20-30 years or more after heavy or > > consistent exposures before it (usually) occurs. > > > > If the asbestos containing material (something that has asbestos in > > it because it doesn't have to be only asbestos itself) is not > > disturbed you won't be exposed. No exposure, no harm. The best way to > > contain it is to leave it alone where it is. Or a sealant can be > > applied or another method of isolating it. Removal disturbs it and > > can lead to exposure. > > > > With your old tile in a failing condition you have been exposed. But > > is it enough for a long enough period of times? How long has it been > > breaking up? It's already been 50 years without lung cancer. Keeping > > it covered or applying a sealant may be enough. If it is removed you > > need to be aware of how much material (sq feet) will be removed so > > you can comply with Federal and State laws. > > > > Check state and federal laws about asbestos and asbestos inspection > > and asbestos removal requirements. Usually if the total area is less > > than about 100 square feet (it varies) you can do it yourself without > > violating law. But you MUST check the laws to be sure! > > > > Start with the EPA at http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/ > > One of the EPA pages is specifically for asbestos in homes: > > http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/pubs/ashome.html > > > > Check with your state, also. Colorado, my state, has an excellent Web > > site with SPECIFIC instructions and excellent advise. > > http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/index.html > > One of their fact sheets is at: > > http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/ap/asbestos/renodemo.pdf > > > > Your state may be different so be sure to check it with the proper > > authorities (I am not one! Especially for other states!) Unlike > > mold, asbestos has Permissible Exposure Limits along with definitive > > sampling methods, lab analysis and interpretations. > > > > Carl Grimes > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > > > ----- > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I know it's been awhile. But I have a quick question. As my husband > > > and I have worked through the possible mold issue, we discovered > > > that we have the original tile in our home (50+ years old). We've > > > been told it is made from asbestos. We know that the tile is > > > falling apart in places where there is not carpeting over it. Is > > > there a quick easy solution to cleaning this up? Can having this > > > tile in our home be contributing to some of the illness problems we > > > have? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > -- > > > W. > > > reneewo@... > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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