Re: Sports Emergencies

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Larry,

You might check the order of the messages, Your reply should have been

to Mike, which is the last message before yours. My reply was to

Joe, to which Mike responded.

I am 100% behind Athletic Trainers. I work very close with several

of them and several Sports Medicine Physicians. I am well aware of

their capabilities. I have also participated in several Sports Medicine

conferences, including the Southwest Athletic Trainer Association (SWATA)

and Louisiana Athletic Trainers Association (LATA), to name two.

Larry Mc wrote:

Dear Mr. ,

As a paramedic and educator I have much the same view as you may have.

However I have been doing a large amount of investigating on the "Athletic

trainer" programs in my area, and have found them to be above and beyond my

expectations. My son will be entering either the TCU program or The

University of Tulsa to persue his Masters and possibly his Doctorate in this

field. There is much more than meets the eye in that field. So before you

judge you may want to gather some more information .

Thank You

Larry Mc

Paris Jr. College

At 10:48 2/18/99 -0800, you wrote:

>Umm.... maybe, maybe not. I was an athletic trainer's assistant in high

>school. I was NEVER given any medical training other than that directly

>pertaining to athletic injuries, and some basic trauma training. We were

>pretty much told to get the person off the field and call EMS, in that

>order. I can remember several times where, at the insistence of a

>coach/trainer, unconscious patients were carried off the field w/o any sort

>of board, etc.

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>Also, there were several times that I, as a high school student, was the

>ONLY trainer-representative on the field. I had my gear bag, and that was

>it. Had something happened, I would have been on my own until EMS arrived.

>We had a team doctor that lived in the town, but I remember hearing NOTHING

>about TDH, nothing about certification and certainly NEVER had any protocols

>shown or explained to me.

>So, while some schools have it together and run trainers like an emergency

>medical service, others do not, and may have students acting in that

>capactiy without any direct supervision - especially at less than varsity

>level games.

>Mike

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>Joe,

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>Just want to correct one statement "EMS crew is in charge once they arrive"

>should read "once the patient care has been transferred". Athletic Trainers

>are Healthcare providers licensed by TDH working under a Medical Director.

>We need to work as a healthcare team.

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>Les

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>"SMHCEMS, Inc." wrote:

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> I don't think anyone would feel like you were stepping on their toes. As

>others have already stated, the EMS crew is in charge once they arrive. As

>far as helmet removal, Southwest Texas State Univ. here in town has a very

>strong Ath. Trainer program. I've had several of them in my EMT classes. I

>am always confident that the helmets fit well on players at the collegiate

>level, will hold the player's head firmly, and do not need to be removed.

>(However, you usually have the team doctor with the downed player, not just

>the trainers). At the HS level, most schools in the area have trainers from

>this program and helmet fit is usually pretty good. Below varsity HS level

>I have less confidence. Many trainers will approach us before the game and

>I always welcome any interchange with them. You might, as suggested

>already, get with the EMS before the season and iron out potential problems

>or help the EMS understand where you are coming from. Remember that we are

>coming from different directions but hopefully going to the same place.

>Gee, what a great idea! I think I'll call the Head Trainer and set

>something up. Thanks. Joe K. Overstreet, BS, LPEMS Supervisor Original

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>I am a student athletic trainer and also an EMT. While going through my EMT

>class I was instructed to perform some skills in a manner not prescribed by

>my athletic training education ie. (backboarding a football player). My

>question is simple. What are most of the EMS services protocol for helmets

>and what can an athletic trainer do to ensure that his/her athlete can and

>will be treated under their protocol? Do most of you all feel that athletic

>trainers are steping on your toes? What can I do to ensure that which ever

>EMS personal working my games understands where I am coming from? I am just

>trying to bridge a gap.

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>thanks

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> Hajart, EMT

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