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Doug or Anyone, Would you know if Is it possible for a woman to develop thyroid

problems after they moved out of the toxic environment. I know somone that was

in a moldy home for about a year and a half, just moved out this past October,

had various symptoms after moving in which it turned out to be thyroid. Does

anyone that doesn't show signs of illness while in moldy homes, get sick after

they move out more or less is I guess what I am asking. Thanks, Darlene

Haney <_Haney52@...> wrote: Type into Google:

" women fungal thyroid "

Also: Hyperthyroid with toxic nodule goiter (sometimes also different type;

hyperthyroid w/grave's disease). Hope this helps you. Best of luck. I have

literary heard/observed thyroid diseases occurring after long-term or high level

exposures to indoor pathogenic fungi.

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: _Haney52@...

@...: bethlakey@...: Mon, 23 Apr 2007

18:12:28 +0000Subject: [] Re: thyroid question

Has anyone had thyroid problems after mold toxins exposure? I have a tumor on

the right side that has to be removed next week, and will be losing the right

lobe of the thyroid. Just wondering if anyone had been diagnosed or experienced

any thyroid problems.Thanks,Beth

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Most definately!

If you want to check you thyroid function have a Reverse T3 test done- T4, T3

and TSH are not accurate enought to detect thyroid non/malfunction.

Beth <bethlakey@...> wrote:

Has anyone had thyroid problems after mold toxins exposure? I have a

tumor on the right side that has to be removed next week, and will be

losing the right lobe of the thyroid. Just wondering if anyone had

been diagnosed or experienced any thyroid problems.

Thanks,

Beth

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Can someone explain how going this route (medical mycologist and fungal-oriented

medical treatment) fits with Dr. Shoemaker's process and protocol? How are they

different or similar?

Have others done both or chosen one over the other?

I'm asking for my own health concerns...I need to get more testing done and find

some tx's that, hopefully, will work. I have suffered a few pretty severe mold

exposures in the past and later developed MCS.

Thanks for your help. You can reply to me off-list if you want to,

Chris

4a. Re: thyroid question

Posted by: " Haney " _Haney52@... douglasrhaney

Date: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:34 pm ((PDT))

True diplomat medical mycologist, allergist, immunologist: A.

Marinkovich, M.D., Redwood City, CA (650) 482-2800

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: DRH@...

@...: charlesb35@...: Tue, 24 Apr

2007 21:25:00 +0000Subject: [] Re: thyroid question

I know it has probably been mentioned before on this site, but can you please

give us names of medical mycologists. Thanks.>>

Darlene: > > Yes. > > Please allow me to explain it in this manner so that your

question will provide assistance to others. 1) Just because litigation has

settled does not mean that the discomfort of the disease in question will cease

or go away. On the contrary pathogenic (disease influencing/causing) molds alive

inside the human body are constantly living in an environment conducive to their

growth and development into colonies that subtly become stronger and

subsequently release more and more toxicity into human cells as they become

weaker due to the chemical toxicity. 2) Just because a person moves out of a

highly contaminated and infested home, school, or office environment into a new

location does not mean that the microbes that have invaded their body have

somehow been excreted from their body. What can happen and often does, is that

the microbes (molds and bacteria) retreat to become dormant because they do not

adjust well to the new environment and the human body regains enough strength

biochemically to cause this reaction. However, if colonized long enough and

strong enough in numbers, molds can and do subtly continue to affect our human

cells but to a much weaker and slower (subtle) degree. This might take years in

their decomposing effort to make their host (the human body) their prey, but

later on as the aging process increases and the body weakens structurally,

metabolically, and genetically micro fungi begin to become more aggressive as

" opportunists " occupying our body. Remember, they are just doing naturally what

they have done to turn organic life into inorganic live (decomposition into

mineralization) for nearly two billion years... we are simply caught in the

middle of their work. Don't be fooled if you are feeling better because of a

recent move from a chronically infested and contaminated environment into a new

one. Even human cells have to readjust to the new environment. Is this healthier

for you? Yes, no question about it. However, my suggestion is to still seek

medical testing from a qualified medical mycologist if you are still

experiencing unhealthy symptoms. Once a disease is diagnosed as fungal-oriented,

medical treatment is important as a followup.> > > Doug Haney> Maridea

EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.> Email: DRH@...> > > > To:

@...: darlenesb2000@...: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:07:56 -0700Subject:

RE: [] Re: thyroid question> > > > > Doug or Anyone, Would you know

if Is it possible for a woman to develop thyroid problems after they moved out

of the toxic environment. I know somone that was in a moldy home for about a

year and a half, just moved out this past October, had various symptoms after

moving in which it turned out to be thyroid. Does anyone that doesn't show signs

of illness while in moldy homes, get sick after they move out more or less is I

guess what I am asking. Thanks, Darlene Haney <_Haney52@...>

wrote: Type into Google: " women fungal thyroid " Also: Hyperthyroid with toxic

nodule goiter (sometimes also different type; hyperthyroid w/grave's disease).

Hope this helps you. Best of luck. I have literary heard/observed thyroid

diseases occurring after long-term or high level exposures to indoor pathogenic

fungi. Doug HaneyMaridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.Email:

_Haney52@...: @...: bethlakey@...: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:12:28

+0000Subject: [] Re: thyroid questionHas anyone had thyroid

problems after mold toxins exposure? I have a tumor on the right side that has

to be removed next week, and will be losing the right lobe of the thyroid. Just

wondering if anyone had been diagnosed or experienced any thyroid

problems.Thanks,Beth __________________________________________________________

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Dr Haney, others...

Once you had hashimotos, and years of mold exposure, followed by removal

from the exposure for years,

can a thryoid heal?

I was on 50 MCG of levoxyl, and now I want to lesson that

or get off it altogether

Is possible?

Haney wrote:

> Type into Google: " women fungal thyroid "

>

> Also: Hyperthyroid with toxic nodule goiter (sometimes also different

> type; hyperthyroid w/grave's disease). Hope this helps you. Best of

> luck. I have literary heard/observed thyroid diseases occurring after

> long-term or high level exposures to indoor pathogenic fungi.

>

> Doug Haney

> Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> Email: _Haney52@... <mailto:_Haney52%40hotmail.com>

>

>

> @...

> <mailto:%40From>: bethlakey@...

> <mailto:bethlakey%40Date>: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:12:28

> +0000Subject: [] Re: thyroid question

>

> Has anyone had thyroid problems after mold toxins exposure? I have a

> tumor on the right side that has to be removed next week, and will be

> losing the right lobe of the thyroid. Just wondering if anyone had

> been diagnosed or experienced any thyroid problems.Thanks,Beth

>

>

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Lyn,

If you are getting uncomfortable symptoms of hyperthyroidism, then

you probably will want to cut back on your Synthroid to see if it

helps. Is this a constant issue? It could STILL be the fact that

your thyroid can swing between hyper and hypo, so this may just be

one of those times. You should be able to adjust your thyroid dose

accordingly. Just because the doc says to take " x " amount doesn't

mean you have to stick to " x " amount all the time. That is the

ballpark figure, but if you feel you are starting to have hyper

symptoms, cut back a little bit for a short time to see if that

helps, keeping in mind that if you have hypo symptoms again to pay

attention and get your dose where it needs to be.

I myself would feel really good at 0.66! That is the difference

between everyone....we really need to dose by symptoms and not by

numbers!

Hugs,

Patty

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wrote:

>

> Patty or anybody,

>

> For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I used

to.

> No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I wake

up

> around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because I

> couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired at

all.

>

> I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I am

> thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than be

> sluggish but I do need my rest too.

>

> I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day and

was

> told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that) my T3

> was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

normal

> but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

>

> I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible I am

> going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an appt

w/

> my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool

sample

> results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

>

> Hugs, Lynn

>

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Steph,

I hope you are doing the coffee enemas . My husband dont want anyone to know he

is doing them now.HEHEHEHEHe

And he is noticing how much better he is feeling after the second one. I am jealous!!!!LOLOL

But seriously this will help will autoimmune problems. Maybe you can do them twice daily.

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Autoimmune markers...I guess they give dr's clues if you have autoimmune issues.Steph> > >> > > Patty or anybody,> > > > > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I used > > to. > > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I > wake > > up > > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because I > > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired at > > all.> > > > > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I > am > > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than be > > > sluggish but I do need my rest too. > > > > > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day and > > was > > > told it was "normal." My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that) my > T3 > > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is > > normal > > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66! > > > > > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible I > am > > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an > appt > > w/ > > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool > > sample > > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid. > > > > > > Hugs, Lynn> > >> >> The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there.

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Hi Patty,

Thanks for the response. Yes, the Hyper symptoms are constant. I

can't sleep at all and it is flaring all other symptoms because I

haven't got good sleep for months now. I have even tried valium and

it will only knock me out for about 4 hours and then I am wide

awake. I was up at 3 a.m. - bright eyed an bushy tailed. I am not

tired at all today either! I need sleep so bad. I am going to

reduce my dose. I see my doctor Thursday.

Love, Lynn

> >

> > Patty or anybody,

> >

> > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I used

> to.

> > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

wake

> up

> > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because I

> > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired at

> all.

> >

> > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I

am

> > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than be

> > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> >

> > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day and

> was

> > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that) my

T3

> > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> normal

> > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> >

> > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible I

am

> > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

appt

> w/

> > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool

> sample

> > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> >

> > Hugs, Lynn

> >

>

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Steph,

Feeling just okay. Not great.

What are AI markers for? I don't think they ran those?

Lynn

> >

> > Patty or anybody,

> >

> > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I used

> to.

> > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

wake

> up

> > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because I

> > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired at

> all.

> >

> > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I

am

> > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than be

> > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> >

> > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day and

> was

> > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that) my

T3

> > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> normal

> > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> >

> > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible I

am

> > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

appt

> w/

> > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool

> sample

> > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> >

> > Hugs, Lynn

> >

>

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Autoimmune markers...I guess they give dr's clues if you have

autoimmune issues.

Steph

> > >

> > > Patty or anybody,

> > >

> > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I

used

> > to.

> > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

> wake

> > up

> > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because

I

> > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired

at

> > all.

> > >

> > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I

> am

> > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than

be

> > > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> > >

> > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day

and

> > was

> > > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that)

my

> T3

> > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> > normal

> > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> > >

> > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible

I

> am

> > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

> appt

> > w/

> > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool

> > sample

> > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> > >

> > > Hugs, Lynn

> > >

> >

>

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This sounds like it could also be adrenal exhaustion. That waking up

in the middle of the night is often due to the adrenals putting out

too much cortisol. You may want to investigate this further.

Patty

> > >

> > > Patty or anybody,

> > >

> > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I

used

> > to.

> > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

> wake

> > up

> > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m. because

I

> > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel tired

at

> > all.

> > >

> > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny. I

> am

> > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy than

be

> > > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> > >

> > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day

and

> > was

> > > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that)

my

> T3

> > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> > normal

> > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> > >

> > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is possible

I

> am

> > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

> appt

> > w/

> > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and stool

> > sample

> > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> > >

> > > Hugs, Lynn

> > >

> >

>

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Yes, but there were so many I can't remember which ones they were. I

should be getting the results back today.

Steph

> > > > >

> > > > > Patty or anybody,

> > > > >

> > > > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I

> > used

> > > > to.

> > > > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and

I

> > > wake

> > > > up

> > > > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m.

> because

> > I

> > > > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel

> tired

> > at

> > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer

bunny.

> I

> > > am

> > > > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy

> than

> > be

> > > > > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to

day

> > and

> > > > was

> > > > > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around

that)

> > my

> > > T3

> > > > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this

is

> > > > normal

> > > > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> > > > >

> > > > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is

> possible

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make

an

> > > appt

> > > > w/

> > > > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and

> stool

> > > > sample

> > > > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs, Lynn

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I haven't yet but I did order the stuff online so I'm waiting for it.

However, for some reason I am nervous about doing one.

Good luck today & I'll be thinking of you!

Steph

> > > >

> > > > Patty or anybody,

> > > >

> > > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I

> used

> > > to.

> > > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

> > wake

> > > up

> > > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m.

because

> I

> > > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel

tired

> at

> > > all.

> > > >

> > > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny.

I

> > am

> > > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy

than

> be

> > > > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> > > >

> > > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day

> and

> > > was

> > > > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that)

> my

> > T3

> > > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> > > normal

> > > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> > > >

> > > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is

possible

> I

> > am

> > > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

> > appt

> > > w/

> > > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and

stool

> > > sample

> > > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs, Lynn

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Patty,

I haven't had the saliva test run yet, no money but the docs did run

an AM/PM cortisol and my numbers were normal.

I will ask my doctor tomorrow what he thinks about the adrenals.

Lynn

> > > >

> > > > Patty or anybody,

> > > >

> > > > For the last few months I haven't been able to sleep like I

> used

> > > to.

> > > > No naps, at all. I have to force myself to go to sleep and I

> > wake

> > > up

> > > > around 5 a.m. This weekend I went to bed at 1:30 a.m.

because

> I

> > > > couldn't sleep and I was up at like 7 a.m. Did not feel

tired

> at

> > > all.

> > > >

> > > > I went from being fatigued and tired to the energizer bunny.

I

> > am

> > > > thinking it is the synthroid. I would rather have energy

than

> be

> > > > sluggish but I do need my rest too.

> > > >

> > > > I had a thyroid test a week and a half ago. I called to day

> and

> > > was

> > > > told it was " normal. " My T4 was a 1.4 (somwhere around that)

> my

> > T3

> > > > was a 3.something and my TSH is now a 0.66!!! I know this is

> > > normal

> > > > but I went from a 3.7 something now so long ago to 0.66!

> > > >

> > > > I still have the heart palps and now insomnia. It is

possible

> I

> > am

> > > > going hyper? Any advice would be appreciated. I did make an

> > appt

> > > w/

> > > > my MD/ND for Thursday. He got my food allergy panal and

stool

> > > sample

> > > > results in, so I figured I will bring up the Thyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs, Lynn

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dede,

I plan to do the test in the next few months - just need $. I know I

need them so bad, but I just spent close to $400 on stool and food

panal tests. Which both will help.

Love, Lynn

>

> Lynn ~

> On my saliva tests, the am was low, but low normal, the night one

> was very high.....but the 2 inbetween were very low.......at the

times

> I need energy and those adrenal steroids, I didnt have any, but

night

> when I was suposed to be sleeping, I was soaring ! Still had some

by

> the first morning one, then it was all downhill from that til

night !

> So, they may be important for you to know...........

> Love Dede

>

>

>

> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the

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