Re: MIGRANES CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE 2007

[Guest guest]

ANOTHER ONE WORTH READING. DANG, I HAVE A CLUE FOR THEM AS TO WHAT

CAUSES MIGRANES, TOXIN EXPOSURE!!!!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131604 & page=1

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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18382559

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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/229195/migraines_could_cause_br

> ain_damage_.html

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> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?

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> http://www.webmd.com/migraines-headaches/news/20040127/migraine-

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> to-brain-lesions

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[Guest guest]

Yes toxins do cause migraines but for future clarification from what

I have read migraines appear to be caused by a shortage of oxygen to

brain. Shortage of oxygen probably due to inflamation causing

temporary narrowing of blood vessels so volume of blood is less and

so less oxygen gets through. Inflamation could be due to toxins or

systemic fungal infection of some sort. I don't know what else

could cause blood vessels inflamation, perhaps lead exposure??? I

just don't know. However shortage of oyxgen causes the pain and of

course would cause brain damage. Hopefully minor since I suffer

from them frequently for long time, BUT my memory to some extent but

mainly eye sight are very poor...eyesight very blurry. HOwever

hyperbaric treatment works ohhhh soo good for migraines and keeps

them gone a long time. Too expensive though to be practical.

However if you are having a long string of them, it can cut the

trend off for long time. There are studies on this..oxygen resolving

migraines headaches. Caffein has been shown to help cut off a

developing migraine. I think the mechanism there is that caffein

ups the speed of your blood circulation and thereby delivers more

oxygen to your head...making you feel more alert is side effect of

the extra oxygen and that helps head off the migraine. Of course if

blood vessels remain very inflamed, migraine may come back after

caffein wears off. However hyperbaric seems to keep the migraine

away for much longer time. I think this may be due to anti-

inflamatory effects of hyerbaric oxygen. HBOT is known to have anti-

inflamatory effects so it kicks the migraine to the curb in two

ways, adding oxygen to oxygen starved brain and also reducing or

eliminating for awhile anyway the inflamation that caused the loss

of oxygen in the first place. Pharmacy companies put out the

migraine with vasodilators which works by causing the blood vessels

to widen and bring more oxygen to tissue, so it is all consistent.

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> ANOTHER ONE WORTH READING. DANG, I HAVE A CLUE FOR THEM AS TO WHAT

> CAUSES MIGRANES, TOXIN EXPOSURE!!!!!!

> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131604 & page=1

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[Guest guest]

I meant to say 'furthur' clarification. Also shortage of oxygen does

not cause pain but cell death, caused by shortage of oxygen in those

tissues which lack sufficient blood. Probably pressure pain also from

inflamed blood vessels also. Just thought I would clear that up.

I've suffered from them for 20 years.

Sometimes light weight exercise along with a little caffein will help

to increase oxygen in your body and to the tissues. I feel better if

I take something for migraine and go for a walk too.

Getting lots of chlorophyl in your diet, like with green vegetable

juicing also helps to up the oxygen in your body and I had less

headaches while I was juicing. I used to make and drink about a quart

of green juice a day. Space is cramped right now so can't keep all

the vegetables on hand for it. These things have worked for me.

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> Yes toxins do cause migraines but for future clarification from what

> I have read migraines appear to be caused by a shortage of oxygen to

[Guest guest]

Incidentally, if people have lots of migraine headaches and they are

usually upon awakening in the morning, they should be tested for sleep

apnea. Many people get migraines from sleep apnea, since you stop

breathing many times during the night. That makes you 'anoxia'

or 'hypoxia'...not sure of which term or spelling but low on oxygen

and usually will WAKE UP with headache. I filled out questionaire

before a sleep study test on sleep apnea and about a third of the

questions were about headaches, especially if you have them right upon

awakening.

[Guest guest]

Barb, I think the migranes they are refering to are the ones that

involve brain swelling. the amount of brain damage depends on severity

and duration. i think the top link i posted brings up the brain

swelling.

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> Incidentally, if people have lots of migraine headaches and they are

> usually upon awakening in the morning, they should be tested for

sleep

> apnea. Many people get migraines from sleep apnea, since you stop

> breathing many times during the night. That makes you 'anoxia'

> or 'hypoxia'...not sure of which term or spelling but low on oxygen

> and usually will WAKE UP with headache. I filled out questionaire

> before a sleep study test on sleep apnea and about a third of the

> questions were about headaches, especially if you have them right

upon

> awakening.

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[Guest guest]

Yet another correction to my own comments on migraines! Studies I

read concerning oxygen treatment of migraines did NOT mention

hyperbaric treatment but used more conveniently oxygen treatment, i.e.

tank. I have not been able to talk my doctors into giving me a Rx for

oxygen so I have gone to hyperbaric treatment center when I get a

string of them not helped by medicine and found it works wonderfully

for me.

Just thought I'd add this so people don't think they have to travel to

hyperbaric center to try. If you can get tank and Rx for oxygen it

should help but I haven't been able to get that, even from a head and

neck pain guy...they are soooo close minded, or don't care. Can't

figure out which, maybe it is both.

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>> I have read migraines appear to be caused by a shortage of oxygen

to brain and have found relief by treatment w oxygen myself.

[Guest guest]

heres a interesting link on types of migraines

http://www.neurologychannel.com/migraine/

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> > Incidentally, if people have lots of migraine headaches and they

are

> > usually upon awakening in the morning, they should be tested for

> sleep

> > apnea. Many people get migraines from sleep apnea, since you

stop

> > breathing many times during the night. That makes you 'anoxia'

> > or 'hypoxia'...not sure of which term or spelling but low on

oxygen

> > and usually will WAKE UP with headache. I filled out

questionaire

> > before a sleep study test on sleep apnea and about a third of the

> > questions were about headaches, especially if you have them right

> upon

> > awakening.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Barb,

You mentioned that hyperbaric oxygen helped your healing process? I don't

think I can afford it but I'd like to hear more about that.

I know that some medical patients have oxygen tanks.

I wonder if oxygen in and of itself (not under pressure) would enable or

speed healing???

[Guest guest]

Quack - my mother LOVES hyperbaric chambers.... she calls them 'hyperbolic'

which in her case is probably correct... she's hyperbolic about absolutely

everything: out of her mouth, something is either THE WORST or THE BEST in the

world, and sometimes both if you wait more than an hour...but so far, hyperbaric

is consistently a GOOD thing in her reporting...

I've certainly been intrigued by it....

~Haley

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

Barb,

You mentioned that hyperbaric oxygen helped your healing process? I don't

think I can afford it but I'd like to hear more about that.

I know that some medical patients have oxygen tanks.

I wonder if oxygen in and of itself (not under pressure) would enable or

speed healing???

[Guest guest]

I dont recall where but its manditory to get stroke and heart attack

patients in one within 3 hours. maybe europe, cant remember. wish I

had one or could afford a few treatments.

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> Quack - my mother LOVES hyperbaric chambers.... she calls

them 'hyperbolic' which in her case is probably correct... she's

hyperbolic about absolutely everything: out of her mouth, something

is either THE WORST or THE BEST in the world, and sometimes both if

you wait more than an hour...but so far, hyperbaric is consistently a

GOOD thing in her reporting...

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> I've certainly been intrigued by it....

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> ~Haley

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> LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote: Barb,

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> You mentioned that hyperbaric oxygen helped your healing process?

I don't

> think I can afford it but I'd like to hear more about that.

>

> I know that some medical patients have oxygen tanks.

>

> I wonder if oxygen in and of itself (not under pressure) would

enable or

> speed healing???

>

>

[Guest guest]

Brain swelling would also reduce blood flow too but anyway, I'm sure

brain swelling could cause a huge headache. Does this brain swelling

occur on one side only?

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> Barb, I think the migranes they are refering to are the ones that

> involve brain swelling. the amount of brain damage depends on

severity

>

[Guest guest]

LS, Oxygen by itself without pressure is good for migraines too. I

just can't get that but there is a HBOT center in my area but I have

to pay for it myself of course. It isn't covered by insurance for

migraines.

There is also mild hyperbaric chambers which puts body under

pressure with regular air, but less pressure than hard chambers. I

have seen one used for $11k (I know that is so expensive too), so

not cheap but for people who need it enough, mainly nerve damaged

children, sometimes they borrow the money. However soft chamber is

supposed to use just ambien air with is only 20% oxygen as opposed

to 100% but some people report help since they can do every day if

it is yours so perhaps makes up for fact that you are putting 20%

oxygen under pressure rather than 100%. Some people manage to use

these with pure oxygen but apparently there can be an explosion if

you aren't careful. Some use an oxygen concentrator and use oxygen

at higher level than 20% but not 100%.

There are groups that discuss both, if you want address.

I haven't taken HBOT 'treatment' yet, i.e. " a series of treatments

spaced frequently enough to see some gain " in my general health but

I have taken it here and there to end sufferings from migraine when

I get into a string of them. If I buy a 'package', I get a discount

per each. That way I can get treatment for 110 each dive. It can

be worth it if you are having them so frequently you cannot function

or to end suffering. However I want to try home oxygen so will take

copies of studies showing effectiveness to a few doctors hoping to

get an Rx for home oxygen.

Chlorophyl does help elevate the blood in your blood! Dont shortcut

that. You could try getting a juicer made to do green leavy

vegetables and do that. Maybe you could get used one on Ebay. I

really noticed a difference! Many people attribute drinking this

juice to recovering from cancer. I'm sure it isn't that simple but

it is at the heart of many alternative cancer treatment. Machines

that do green leafy vegetables well are ones that 'squeeze juice'

through gears, like Green Power. Most of them are called " green-

something " .

I figure it this way. Look over the earth from outer space. What

do you see...green everywhere. It must be VERY important to life on

earth and our health. The rest is water and our bodies are what 80%

water so these two things must be hugely important to our health.

Oops, other thing is oxygen and that is topic.

Also get a little mild exercise everyday. Don't wear yourself out.

You will get worse but walking speeds up your circulation and helps

to oxygenate your organs and your body stores a certain amount of

oxygen so effect will last awhile, perhaps rest of day, or two

days...don't know. Light exercise also raises your body temperature

which aids your immune system and actually higher body temperatures

kills microbes. It could be s climbing that helped him also.

That's why our bodies develope a fever when we are very sick. To

kill germs by heat but don't deliberately give yourself

a 'temperature'. Too high a temperature kills brain cells also, but

exercise reves up your immune system and if you are too tired or

sick to exercise at all some days, a warm/hot bath can do this or

saunas. They detox by making you sweat but also you get the benefit

of raised temperature.

So in away, your talking about eating a varied diet with lots of

green leafy vegetables (how often have we heard that), get regular

exercise (my doctor keeps telling me his healthiest patients

exercise regularly and that does NOT mean aerobics or anything, the

basics, walking), get FRESH AIR....we all know how important THAT

is...something that got us in trouble in the first place.

Incidentally I don't do all of these things right now because I'm so

busy working on making my sick house well or find another one, but I

strive to and when I do, I feel better.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> Barb,

>

> You mentioned that hyperbaric oxygen helped your healing process?

I don't

> think I can afford it but I'd like to hear more about that.

>

[Guest guest]

not if its CFS that causes the swelling. but if your BBB breaks down

the tiny vessels can leak and if I remember right causes lesions but I

dont know if it envolves swelling. maybe what they are saying or not

saying is that migranes are a result of swelling. and many people and

doctors dont reconize the difference in severe headackes and migraines

.. I think people with abscess or tumors have migranes dont they? if its

in a spot were nothing gives and it pushes on the brain. with CFS being

liquid it spreads out but eben still it doesn't take much liquid to

cause pressure. the blood leaks from vessels would be tiny drops if I

remember right.

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> > Barb, I think the migranes they are refering to are the ones that

> > involve brain swelling. the amount of brain damage depends on

> severity

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Incidentally... if people try coffee for migraine, be sure not to

drink much since coffee is a vasocontrictor which is the exact

opposite of what you need. Just a little bit to get your blood

circulating a bit faster. If that doesn't work, don't drink more or

your headache can get worse.

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> Caffein has been shown to help cut off a

> developing migraine. I think the mechanism there is that caffein

> ups the speed of your blood circulation and thereby delivers more

> oxygen to your head

[Guest guest]

I see. Probably can't put all headaches or perhaps even migraines

in one category, but mine are oxygen connected and so are others as

I have read up on this. I can see where tumors and swelling could

cause one sided pain. I can see where there would be other causes

of one sided pain that doctor may think is a migraine but could be

tumor or other, actually, more serious problem. Not that migraines

are not serious. Pain usually means injury.

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> > > Barb, I think the migranes they are refering to are the ones

that

> > > involve brain swelling. the amount of brain damage depends on

> > severity

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[Guest guest]

Mild hyperbaric oxygen group:

<mildhbot/

Neuro hyperbaric oxygen group:

<NeuroHBOT/>

You can get oxygen equipment like tanks, and breathing appliances

etc from survival gear places, like pilot supply companies and you

can get " welders oxygen " (that can be used safely for emergency

oxygen) for in them without an Rx. However some say you should use

medical grade oxygen for breathing if you use frequently. Some

think it is not important. That's what I know about getting

oxygen.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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You mentioned that hyperbaric oxygen helped your healing process? I

don't

> think I can afford it but I'd like to hear more about that.

>