Re: Re: Need help fast!

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And if you pick up a copy of Dr. Shoemaker's book, Mold Warriors (at

moldwarriors.com) it explains why only a small number of us have reactions

- from his research, a quarter of us don't produce the antibodies that remove

biotoxins from our bodies to protect us. He does have some strategies for

working with that which have been tremendously helpful to many 'moldies' who are

members on this list.

~Haley

joseph salowitz <josephsalowitz@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I have a serious problem and not sure what to do at this point.

BTW, I'm new

> to this group.

>

> It all started when I turned on a window AC unit for the first time

of the

> season. I turned it on and started to get a soar throat almost

instantly and

> also had itchy ears, freezing cold feet and many other symptoms.

Hi ,

Welcome to the Group. Through the process of elimination, I traced my

most recent toxic reactions to a window air conditioner, also. After

buying a new air conditioner, for my bedroom, three years in a row, I

finally realized that , for reasons that I may never figure out,

these air conditioners were making me sick. Last year's air

conditioner took only one month before it began growing enough mold

to make me sick. This year I am hoping to get by on the two other air

conditioners in my apartment, which I have no reaction to. So far,

luckily, it has been a very cool, almost cold, summer in New York

City, where I live.

I would like to share another observation, from my " sick building "

reactions over the past six years. I have seen, in myself, and my

father, how our bodies have " learned " to react to mold and mycotoxin

exposures, whenever we are re-exposed to these triggers. Our body's

appear to need ever smaller and smaller time periods of exposure to

these triggers, to produce a reaction.

Based on my personal history, I am bringing your attention to the

fact that, whereas in YOUR past, you needed to LIVE in a " sick " house

to get a toxic reaction, all that is necessary, NOW, is for you to

enter your home for 5 minutes to pick up your mail, or check your

electric meter etc. to produce the same extreme toxic reaction in

your body. Your body's reaction, once begun, might last for days, or

weeks, before your body stops reacting to your 5 minute exposure.

Remember, its NOT the material you were exposed to, that causes

illness. If it were, then EVERYONE in the room would get sick. Its

YOUR BODY'S REACTION to that material that is making you sick.

If this sounds " unreasonable " to you, then you have just learned

your first lesson in this new world you have become a part of. All of

us who suffer, have a very " unreasonable " illness. Therefore, don't

expect anyone, even your closest friends and relatives to see

the " reason " in our complaints. Our insistence that we are physically

sick, only makes the " normals " think we are mentally ill. After all,

they are not sick, when with you, in the same room.

The more medically inclined, of your friends, and your doctors, will

try to persuade you to " realize " that you just have allergies or

asthma, not some " fictional " toxic illness. Don't believe them. I

have had allergies and asthma since the age of 9 (I'm now 64). What

we have is something different. Asthma and allergy medications will

only give partisl relief, at best. The only " treatment " for what we

have, is avoidance of places and situations that trigger our toxic

reaction. Please remember, after your 5 minutes back in your house,

your body starts thinking that you are living there again, and starts

a reaction that will make you as sick as when you WERE living there.

We are NEVER CURED of our potential to have a reaction that makes us

sick. If you walk into someone's home, and you sense some familiar

illness " trigger " , you have two choices. You can either politely try

to explain why you can not stay, so as to not hurt their feelings.

This 5 minute courtesy, on your part, will make you sick as a dog for

2 weeks. Or, you can immediately turn, and run out the door, and call

them on your cell phone, with your explanation why you were so

discourteous, and you may only be sick for a day or two, from your 30

second exposure. Its your choice. My misfortune was to have been

raised to be very courteous. I am trying to break that habit.

Remember, they are going to think we are " NUTS " , whether we are

courteous or not, after we give them our explanation.

You have not exactly entered the " Twilight Zone " . But, you have

entered a new phase of your life, in which you now have to live

a " Defensive Environmental Life " , in the same sense that you are

a " Defensive Driver " , because you want to survive the experience of

driving.

Best of Luck

Joe

[Guest guest]

To save what is left of our health we are forced to live in trailers, tents

and temporary housing, to constantly move from place to place draining away

what is left of our life savings. This is why many of us remain homeless,

living out of plastic bags that fill our cars. We are not the new street

people, we are the new mold people, the new " bag ladies " in desperate search

for

environmentally safe affordable housing. Our cars become our shopping carts,

lugging whatever few remaining belongings we have that are necessary for our

daily survival. No one should be forced to have to make the choice of

staying in a sickbuilding and risk the chance of becoming permanently disabled

or

end up homeless.

They have sanctuaries for animals, too bad there does not exist a sanctuary

for those of us to turn, a healthy building for us to live, even if

temporary, where we can be safe and recover. Build it and we shall come.

In a message dated 6/15/2007 4:50:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

josephsalowitz@... writes:

I would like to share another observation, from my " sick building "

reactions over the past six years. I have seen, in myself, and my

father, how our bodies have " learned " to react to mold and mycotoxin

exposures, whenever we are re-exposed to these triggers. Our body's

appear to need ever smaller and smaller time periods of exposure to

these triggers, to produce a reaction.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I'm going to show this to friends and family that they don't

think I'm nuts

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Can I get this at a local bookstore?

Thank you!

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[Guest guest]

This did help me in the sense I now know for sure what is going on. I do

have a couple questions though. You mentioned it can take years for the

spores/toxins to break down naturally. How long would that be? And is there

something

that can be done to significantly speed up the process? Maybe in a month or

two. What about high concentrations of ozone at different intervals. What

about fogging the house with borax peroxide, or white vinegar? How about

another

microbe to literally eat the spores and toxins or at least make them less

toxic?

Also about the book from moldwarriers.com Without running out to get the

book can someone tell me the protocol that may give me relief? Is it a

supplement? Can anyone here corroborate that this has worked?

Not only is this stuff in my home, it's now at my office, car (brand new

SUV), and kids house where I went to get away from the madness sporadically. I

liked having nice things and this is a nightmare but must see my kids again

soon. How can I see my kids? What if I have them over my new place or outside

somewhere?

Thanks so much,

Glenn ()

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