Re: mold in apt -

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Thanks for all the replies - I guess should give a bit background on the main

resistance have to moving - which is rental market and lack of availability -

literally 6

places even on craigslist in 4 neighboring communities.

The place I moved into was purchased by oweners last year, the prior tenant

thought

needed repair, however was paying only $1000 a month near beach and saving up

money to buy a place. I found out after finding a lot of problems, he did not

let it get

inspected or report stuff as did not want booted out over repairs. When I moved

in,

they bumped rent up to market value assuming was clean since no complaints from

last person nor did he want any inspections and told me when I mentioned floor

that

they did not know what would find in place yet figured no complaints so turn

over

quickly.

As for myself, prior place renting was ind. owned condo in santa monica - was

sold

and then forced into moving - happen to love area, work a few blocks from where

started school and is one of hardest areas to find housing in - in any price

range - as

am actually in mid - to high range for one bedrooms so it is actually about

availability

of housing in area. I moved into this place mostly with plan of getting a few

other

aspects put on paper better ( ie self employed so need more documentation then

most) to qualify for a mortgage or at least raise fico enough to have more

options -

the neighborhood I am ideally trying to move into is actually a little less then

mine as

pay more for being a few blocks from ocean and upcoming trendy spot - and the

more community area I prefer requires a higher fico then most mortgages since

very

competitive ie 40-50 applicants per one bedroom and mostly though a large rental

agency.

In summary, was actually planning on looking into breaking lease in October

when

market better - horrible from May - September.

And yes, have consdiered further areas however traffic in LA is huge

consideration as I

actually work freelance in 3 locations plus school and am lucky 3 out of 4

places are

within half a mile of each other and have been focusing on changing my lifestyle

so

less time in car and furthest place away only go twice a week for about 6 hours

so

also factoring in drive times, gas prices etc.....

There are also many other non mold related habitability issues which keep

popping

up and realized this morning buying me out of my lease is just a fraction of the

needed repairs overall that have shown up and magor violations of california

state law

in lease which is why also dealing with reports as would like to be comfortable

while

looking for new place since can easily take 6-8 months in area I live to find

something

good plus the extra competition in current season.

Hope makes sense and again, thanks for responses as helped in dealing with large

amount of friends saying " they have to fix it, not right, just moved, try to

fight it

etc..... who are familiar with housing market because quite honestly would have

moved out the week I moved in. As far as reactions to mold, they are just

making me

put for energy on this then other areas that are important to me like my studies

and

being in some hard classes this time.

thanks,

Donnielle

[Guest guest]

Hi Donnielle,

Your reason for staying makes alot of logical sense and it is hard to

argue with your position. But, you will consistently find folks on

this list still telling you to MOVE as many of us have done just

that. I walked away from our " dream home " on a wooded acre in North

Texas (yes, there are trees in Texas) and am now living in a house

half the size and about 1/3 the value, but am thankful to be

recovering my health and even more thankful that my kids are

recovering (and we only recently found out that the dog's health had

been impacted). In the end, I've likely walked away from at least a

couple hundred thousand dollars in terms of my " half " of the house

(my husband is still living in the land of denial in the " sick "

house).

Nothing is worth risking your health. You are absolutely correct

that other places can also be bad. I had to delay my move because

the " safe " place I was trying to move into had water damage and mold

in both bathrooms, so I spent several months longer in the sick house

than I would have liked, while both bathrooms were rebuilt from the

outside in. I tried hotels, but found those also had mold, so I

stayed in the safest room in my house with a window open to try to

minimize the impact. But, I was still severely impacted.

Do you not have friends that you could stay with? At a minimum, I

recommend you at least get a doctor to run the HLA-DR genotyping to

see whether you're a dreaded genotype. If you are, then likely any

amount of mold is going to impact you and your recovery will not be

easy. Your career and livelihood could well be at risk. This is

something that most family and friends will not understand. But,

there are many on this list that are no longer able to work due to

mold exposure. Don't let that happen to you - the longer you stay

there, the more likely you are to encounter difficulties in

completing your school work.

Be well,

B.

>

> Thanks for all the replies - I guess should give a bit background

on the main

> resistance have to moving - which is rental market and lack of

availability - literally 6

> places even on craigslist in 4 neighboring communities.

>

> The place I moved into was purchased by oweners last year, the

prior tenant thought

> needed repair, however was paying only $1000 a month near beach and

saving up

> money to buy a place. I found out after finding a lot of problems,

he did not let it get

> inspected or report stuff as did not want booted out over repairs.

When I moved in,

> they bumped rent up to market value assuming was clean since no

complaints from

> last person nor did he want any inspections and told me when I

mentioned floor that

> they did not know what would find in place yet figured no

complaints so turn over

> quickly.

>

> As for myself, prior place renting was ind. owned condo in santa

monica - was sold

> and then forced into moving - happen to love area, work a few

blocks from where

> started school and is one of hardest areas to find housing in - in

any price range - as

> am actually in mid - to high range for one bedrooms so it is

actually about availability

> of housing in area. I moved into this place mostly with plan of

getting a few other

> aspects put on paper better ( ie self employed so need more

documentation then

> most) to qualify for a mortgage or at least raise fico enough to

have more options -

> the neighborhood I am ideally trying to move into is actually a

little less then mine as

> pay more for being a few blocks from ocean and upcoming trendy

spot - and the

> more community area I prefer requires a higher fico then most

mortgages since very

> competitive ie 40-50 applicants per one bedroom and mostly though a

large rental

> agency.

>

> In summary, was actually planning on looking into breaking lease

in October when

> market better - horrible from May - September.

>

> And yes, have consdiered further areas however traffic in LA is

huge consideration as I

> actually work freelance in 3 locations plus school and am lucky 3

out of 4 places are

> within half a mile of each other and have been focusing on changing

my lifestyle so

> less time in car and furthest place away only go twice a week for

about 6 hours so

> also factoring in drive times, gas prices etc.....

>

> There are also many other non mold related habitability issues

which keep popping

> up and realized this morning buying me out of my lease is just a

fraction of the

> needed repairs overall that have shown up and magor violations of

california state law

> in lease which is why also dealing with reports as would like to be

comfortable while

> looking for new place since can easily take 6-8 months in area I

live to find something

> good plus the extra competition in current season.

>

> Hope makes sense and again, thanks for responses as helped in

dealing with large

> amount of friends saying " they have to fix it, not right, just

moved, try to fight it

> etc..... who are familiar with housing market because quite

honestly would have

> moved out the week I moved in. As far as reactions to mold, they

are just making me

> put for energy on this then other areas that are important to me

like my studies and

> being in some hard classes this time.

> thanks,

> Donnielle

>

[Guest guest]

What Haley said is very true but the tone can be better. We that have

ived this nightmare for so long know what you are saying, but I

think you have to still be easy on the newer people that come to this

site. It is hard to understand all of this in the beginning. I know

when I started this mess I never heard of mold and that was nine

years ago. I worked on a lawsuit for a year and did a good job.

Unfortunately I live in Delaware a very corporate state but they do

have rules now about mold supposedly. Atleast she could get the

place condemned before she moves. She could take bulk samples before

she moves and worry about the other stuff later. But she must move

eventually. I moved right away but I got ill slowly living in a

place for many years and I didn't know there was mold. There was no

water anywhere, it was behind the walls in the basement but no leaks.

I had doctors backing me up with my illness so that wasn't the

problem. I moved but into another moldy place and it took about five

months to get out of there only to move in the same building but they

never cleaned the mold in other apartment. Too bad I signed a release

when I moved into the other place in same building. Do not sign a

release. Then moved into another moldy place.

Be very careful moving even if you have to move to other city. I know

it is hard. I have a 73 year old mom living in her car and she use to

live in a condo on the ocean. Be very careful, this mold is very

dangerous regardless what our government says. Bush had mold in the

90's when he was governor. We are all working hard to make change

but nothing has happened yet. So we know your despair. My husband had

seizures right in the lawyers office and was rushed to the hospital.

He didn't get sick until the third place.

>

> Forgive me, KC, I'm getting a bit harsh here...

>

> You're barking up the wrong tree here, Dude.

>

> I just moved to Texas from Long Beach (before that Santa 6th

[Guest guest]

TRUE, AND WE DONT REALLY KNOW HOW BAD HER MOLD PROBLEM IS, BUT WE

KNOW THAT SENCE SHE HAS ALLERGIES IT ALSO MAY NOT MATTER HOW HEAVILY

CONTAMINATED IT IS. SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT HAVE NO PROBLEMS LIVEING THERE

FOR A LONG TIME. IF SHE KEEPS GETTING SICKER AND SICKER OUR ADVICE

MAY RING MORE TRUE TO HER BUT WE DONT WANT TO MAKE NEW PEOPLE COMEING

HERE PARINOID OVER A SMALL MOLD PROBLEM EITHER. SHE HAS OUR ADVICE

AND I DOUGHT SHE WILL FORGET IT,LOL'S, SHE JUST NEEDS TO PAY VERY

CLOSE ATTN. TO HER SYMPTOMS AND VERY CAREFULLY WEIGHT HER WANTS AND

NEEDS AND KEEP IN MIND THAT LOSS OF HEALTH CAN MEAN LOSS OF OTHER

THINGS TOO. AT LEAST SHE KNOWS THE POTENTAL DANGER SO HER CHANCES ARE

MUCH BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE.

> >

> > Forgive me, KC, I'm getting a bit harsh here...

> >

> > You're barking up the wrong tree here, Dude.

> >

> > I just moved to Texas from Long Beach (before that Santa

6th

>

[Guest guest]

Leviticus:

<http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvlev14.htm>

--- In , " " <toriaquilts@...>

wrote:

>

> AMEN, JANET.......Have any of you read the passage in the Bible from

Leviticus 14:34? If not, you SHOULD!!

>

> Take care, all.

>

[Guest guest]

If you read the whole verse from the beginning, other parts of it

remind you of things people in this group have done to rid

themselves of mycotoxins, shave heads, leaving area for so many

days, etc. Interesting. I had not read it before.

--- In , " " <toriaquilts@...>

wrote:

>

> thanks, barb......that's only PART of how i knew this. and its

also how i got my strong FAITH back.

> victoria (now called a " walking miracle " )

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> Leviticus:

> <http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvlev14.htm>

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