Re: beer, a factor of health

[Guest guest]

I have no idea what any of this means!! LOL, I am just simple minded.

One thing I do know, anyone with a mold sensitivity should never never

drink bear.

>

> http://www.mbaa.com/pdfs/EBC_2005_Prague_abstracts.pdf

> L.23 the oxidative stress responce of brewing yeast during

propagation

> and fermentation-

> OXFORD BROOKS UN.BIOLOGICAL AND MOLECULAR SCIENCE.UK

> in vivo generation of oxidents is a normal consequence of aerobic

> metabolism and may affect yeast health during propagation and

> fermentation.analysis of larger yeast DNA confirmed the presence of 6

> key anti-oxident genes(SOD1, SOD2, CTA1,CTT1,GSH1,GLR1) gene

expression

> was up-regulated in the presence of oxidents and mutant strains

lacking

> these genes were found to be hypersensitive

>

[Guest guest]

I drink beer and my right ear burns and turns red and I get hives. I would

guess its the yeast

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[Guest guest]

Jackie, a few reasons I thought this was interesting. SOD1 mutation

is known with ALS and one article I came across on ALS tied SOD1

mutation in with causeing TDP-43 misfolding or mutation. I haven't

located it but also remember reading a short abstract on medline that

linked a certain mycotoxin,(thinking it was trichathecene) to SOD1

mutations. this beer article talks about the mycotoxin problem in the

brewery industries. the coralation between alcoholism disease and

mold illness is pretty interesting. many symptoms are the same, and I

cant help but fell that mold/mycotoxins in alcohol might be the

addiction and the disease. just my personal thought. also interesting

is the oxidative stress that seems to play a big role in gene

mutation and matabolism in all of these and weather it's regarding

plant's, anumals or humans, molds/myco's cause a oxidative stress

responce. and I linked in the matabolism disregulation with this

illness a while back. all these genes,protiens,DNA adducts is to

much for me to dig to deep into but it's pretty interesting, what I

can manage to understand. what get's aggervateing is the different

words used to describe the same thing,and I wont get into that

because it just get's me upset, and I wont get into the lack of

organisation in the medical/science field, or how things keep

getting " rediscovered " . " spinning wheels " . kind of how my brain works

these days and the two together is most aggervateing. but I manage to

soak a few things in here and there and some things makes me remember

other things I've read. Im starting to see were the differences may

lie in how different molds/myco's cause different affects, depending

on many things, like if your already ill and it amases me how many

diseases thought to only be inherited or now being realized to be

also aquired. what causes disease? bacteria,viruses,fungi and

chemical toxins. how some viruses and bacteria's can cohabitate with

each other and fungi and our illness is based on whats liveing in the

concoction we are inhaleing. like my second home with the high

moisture problem, anything could have been in there. I think the

longer a mold/moisture problem goes on, the more chance of some

pretty funky things going on and that place had a mold/moisture

problem for a long,long time from what I've been told. I also think

theres a big difference between haveing a roof leak(moisture above

ground) and haveing water/moisture problem under the home(connected

with the ground) and/or standing water. more slime molds may play a

role. anyway, it grosses me out to think about the brewing process

with all that grain and water, almost all grain diseases are caused

bt fungi. no wonder theres a problem. yet regardless of the health

problems with drinking alcohol it's legal? just like some very toxic

drugs, prescribed. amaseing how our illness is denied but behind the

sences all those industries are dispertly looking for solutions to

the mold/myco problem. I read a article from 2001 that said molds

make up 25% of the earths biomass. I think it's been ignored way to

long. ---

In , " jackiebreeze "

<jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

>

> I have no idea what any of this means!! LOL, I am just simple

minded.

> One thing I do know, anyone with a mold sensitivity should never

never

> drink bear.

>

>