Re: When Will This Nightmare Be Over?....Update

[Guest guest]

Please, if you have a child with a growing child brain do your best to get

at least your child out of there. I have read paper after paper about brain

development and these toxins and the issues that adults like us get are bad

but they pale in comparison to what can happen with children or developing

fetuses. The more I read, the more I see that these inflammations can

sometimes even stop brain development completely, freeze it and then also

destroy the progenitor cells the brain will need to repair itself later

throughout its adult life.

IF THEY WON'T FIX IT PROPERLY YOU BOTH HAVE TO GET OUT OF THERE....

Other people can't do this for you.

[Guest guest]

You know what we did when we were in this situation? We put a window

fan in the window and rigged a rain awning for it that shielded it

from rainfall and ran it 24/7 blowing clean fresh air into the

apartment from outside. Then clean the whole place from top to bottom.

Keep doing it - practice total dust avoidance, with wet wiping. (not

vacumning) This helped tremendously. No matter how cold or hot it

gets, don't turn the fan off, you need to keep the air pressure in

your apartment higher than the pressure inside of the walls of the

mold inside of the walls will recontaminate the apartment. You also

need a smaller out vent on the downwind side. On gusty days when the

wind keeps changing directions, turn the fan up and pray.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana, sorry to hear your still suffering through this. I agree

with Live in that getting as much clean air in there as possable,if

possable. maybe one fan blowing in and one blowing out. sence your

stuck there, I would invest in some good air filters and attach them

to the back of your fans to filter the air as it goes through.just

haveong a few setting around inside with this done may help clean

your air. also you may want to try setting out containers filled with

charcoal to absorb smells. os there anywhere outside you could camp

out at least part of the week? air outside can sometimes not be

anybetter but less is better however you can manage it.

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> Please, if you have a child with a growing child brain do your best

to get

> at least your child out of there. I have read paper after paper

about brain

> development and these toxins and the issues that adults like us get

are bad

> but they pale in comparison to what can happen with children or

developing

> fetuses. The more I read, the more I see that these inflammations

can

> sometimes even stop brain development completely, freeze it and

then also

> destroy the progenitor cells the brain will need to repair itself

later

> throughout its adult life.

>

> IF THEY WON'T FIX IT PROPERLY YOU BOTH HAVE TO GET OUT OF THERE....

>

> Other people can't do this for you.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Live for the advice. I'll try it once I can get a window fan.

I have been keeping a pedestal fan blowing 24/7 since I've been back

here.

Trying to air out the apartment before my daughter has to come back

for the next four days; then she'll be back at my mom's.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> You know what we did when we were in this situation? We put a window

> fan in the window and rigged a rain awning for it that shielded it

> from rainfall and ran it 24/7 blowing clean fresh air into the

> apartment from outside. Then clean the whole place from top to

bottom.

> Keep doing it - practice total dust avoidance, with wet wiping. (not

> vacumning) This helped tremendously. No matter how cold or hot it

> gets, don't turn the fan off, you need to keep the air pressure in

> your apartment higher than the pressure inside of the walls of the

> mold inside of the walls will recontaminate the apartment. You also

> need a smaller out vent on the downwind side. On gusty days when the

> wind keeps changing directions, turn the fan up and pray.

>

[Guest guest]

I try to keep my daughter out of the apartment as much as possible.

during the school year she's gone from morning until night and now

she will be staying at my mom's most of the summer as much as

possible. This apartment was redone about a year and a half ago which

helped for a while but the mold is now coming back and it's hard to

clean and get rid of all the mold in here because it's all over the

wood floors throughout the entire apartment plus it's in the walls

and in my kitchen and laundry room. I clean as much as I can. So I am

trying....

And my daughter already has some brain damage as do I but she's doing

OK. I wish I would have known about all this mold stuff before the

damage was done.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. I'll try to attach a filter to my fan and get

some charcoal. Anything at this point will help.

[Guest guest]

I know there is an ongoing leak in the wall where my shower is from

the upstairs unit. It's been leaking for the past ten or twelve

years; it's still hasn't been fixed and you can see and feel the

water underneath the paint. I also believe the upstairs toilet is

leaking because you can see the ring of water on my ceiling. I also

believe there are leaks under the house. The roof used to leak into

my living room wall but that's been fixed. My water heater has leaked

on and off so there was mold in that wall but they replace part of

that wall. My kitchen sink backed up twice and flooded the kitchen

and the dinning room. My bathroom sink backed up and flooded my

bathroom. Each plumber that comes to fix the leaks say the same

thing, all the pipes need to be replaced; they've never been replaced

and the building is over fifty years old.

As far as opening up walls or fixing the leaks in the walls or

replacing pipes they, my family, don't want to do that because of the

cost even though they can afford to do so. They tend to only like to

spend money if it benifits them and fixing everything does not

benifit them because they do not live here. They still don't

understand the seriousness of mold and they also don't want the

upsatirs neighbor to start complaining about things. It took them

until the neighbor's foot fell through one of the back outside stairs

to replace that.

[Guest guest]

The thing about mold is when it gets wet and drys and gets wet again,

that can make the very dangerous indoor molds. I am not sure about a

fan with all this mold. The spores will be blowing everywhere. And

with the family owning this home, the house will only get worse and

they will probably never be able to sell it unless they sell as is and

lose a lot of money. And eventually this upstairs person could get

ill. But I am sure they don't care. I had relatives doing the same

thing ignoring the mold like it will go away.

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[Guest guest]

The fan helps so the air doesn't get so stagnant so you don't feel

like you are suffocating. The dangerous mold (stachy, aspergillus,

etc.) is what I'm dealing with because of the reoccurring dampness

and dryness.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I've reported to the city and I got brushed off. The only thing

they would do is write a letter to my family making suggestions of

what may help but they didn't even follow through. I was told that as

long as they can't see visible mold they won't do anything and at the

time there was no visible mold because my family had already replaced

the one wall in the laundry room and cleaned the walls in the

bathroom. And they couldn't see the mold underneath the carpet on the

wood floors because the carpet was still covering it.

The health department won't do much unless they have tests to show

poisoning in a child. They don't care much about adults, I guess.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> Have you reported this to the Health Department and Dept. of

Building

> Inspection in your city?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, Live I'm working on that but thanks for the advice...

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> Just curious, why don't you ask them what tests, specifically, you

could use

> to show this poisoning. And also ask if such tests exist for adults

like you

> and where/how you or your daughter can take them. (i.e. LabCorp,

Quest, ???

> what code number)

>