You CAN'T afford to experiment

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--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

> The way I see it, the most important thing is to get out of

situations that

> put you into contact with

> mold toxins, because they, even at low levels, raise the level of

> inflammation such that

> healing can't happen. The same may apply to a lot of other

seemingly minor -

> to many people,

> irritants and toxins, things like VOCS from chemicals in the built

> environment, endotoxins

> from bacteria, etc. They may cross-irritate with mold toxins to

hold up

> healing.

> So, you want to continue with those toxins until you have seen what

damage

> they do a little bit more

> since clearly you are in nowhere near as bad a shape as many of us

have

> been, judging

> by your writing, you can probably afford to experiment, but your

experiment

> wont be as

> meanigful because you haven't been dealing with the major situation

that

> some others have?

> This ground has been covered exhaustively and the problem is that

the real,

> problematic mycotoxins are extremely toxic substances to all living

things

> even at tiny concentrations. Yes, general protective substances

sometimes

> help in one way or another but it is only incremental, never

total.. As

> someone

> who spent a very long time living in a very moldy situation, I can

tell you

> that in many respects, I didn't really begin to really heal until

several

> months after I got out.. I was freaking out at the beginning

because my

> neuro issues continued to get WORSE for quite some time. I've found

out that

> this is typical but at the time it was terrifying.

Its the curse of all of our lives to be

> hypersensitive - or hypersensitIZED -

> to mold and I don't think it goes away. Its caused by over-

exposure, and its

> your immune system that does it. It would be

> a genetic defect if your immune system didn't do it because that

would leave

> you vulnerable to every kind of poison.

>

> Some people, like , who doesn't post here anymore, claim that

with

> avoidance the hypersensitization goes away.

> For me it hasn't

> and its a violent reminder that I am stil sick even when I have

been feeling

> better for a while. I also still have major fatigue issues.

I have been luckier than most board members who post on this board.

My longest single mold exposure period, of the six exposures I have

had, has been only about ten weeks. Thats why I post so infrequently.

I never had a mold exposure experience lasting months, or years, as

most board members seem to have had, so I feel that my experiences

are not applicable to what is being discussed.

But, the one thing that my experiences have taught me, that IS

applicable to this chain being discussed, is that my full and

complete recovery, after each separate mold exposure, is due to my

rapidly eliminating the mold source, or, when that was not possible,

RUNNING AWAY FROM the mold source.

Based on my personal experiences with mold, I have concluded that my

complete recoveries, until my next exposures, have only been possible

due to the fact that no PERMANENT damage was done to my body, during

these short exposure episodes. Mold, and Mycotoxins, cause an immune

system reaction. Its called a " reaction " because it requires

something to react " against " , to make us sick. In my short exposures,

once I removed, or removed myself from, what I was reacting to, I

STOPPED REACTING.

It appears, from the many postings on this board, that, at some

point in time, during our immune system reactions, our body loses the

ability to " bounce back " to normality, even after the toxin we are

reacting against is removed from our environment. It therefore

follows logically, that any time spent in trying to find and figure

out what is making us sick, in our environment,brings us closer to

that point in time when our body will lose its ability to " bounce

back " to normal, once we have found, and eliminated, the offending

toxin from our environment.

So, I feel, based on my experiences and logic, that we should always

let the mold " WIN " this round, and we should RUN AWAY as fast as

possible. We will, AS I DO, always have this hypersensitivity

potential to mold, due to our first battle with it. We should

conserve our strength, and sanity, for the next time we become

hypersensitized, from a future mold exposure.

So while I agree with everything that LiveSimply is advising our new

board member to do, I disagree with the one statement that he has

time to " experiment " , since he is not as sick as most of our board

members. I feel that the " experiment time " will make our new member

as sick as most of our other board members. My advice is, that to

avoid reaching that " point of no return to normality " , he should RUN,

RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN.

Joe