Re: stand, sit, lie- what do we want to do?

[Guest guest]

>

> If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't even have

> to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do

several

> things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

>

According to The Course in Miracles, that is the duality of ego versus

spirit. That is why " The Work " is so important; to investigate the

outside thoughts of the ego. Then the decision maker (as it is called

In the Course of Miracles) can decide if it is spirit or ego. If you

are interested in further explaination, I recommend reading one of

Wapnicks book on The Course (be prepared for heaving reading)

or Renard's book, " The Disappearance of the Universe. "

But of course, you don't have to; you can just stand, sit and lie. Do

what is true for you.

Atlanta, GA

[Guest guest]

hi,

To check if i heard, your message read:

To stand, sit, lie comes from the Spirit.

The instinct of survival may come from the Ego.

to stand, sit, lie, is always true.

" The course " is for Duality.

The Ego is independent from the Spirit according to this book.(this

one seems shaky to me)

(I think that " the disappearance " is for non-Duality).

did i get it?

> >

> > If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't even have

> > to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> > The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do

> several

> > things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

> >

>

> According to The Course in Miracles, that is the duality of ego versus

> spirit. That is why " The Work " is so important; to investigate the

> outside thoughts of the ego. Then the decision maker (as it is called

> In the Course of Miracles) can decide if it is spirit or ego. If you

> are interested in further explaination, I recommend reading one of

> Wapnicks book on The Course (be prepared for heaving reading)

> or Renard's book, " The Disappearance of the Universe. "

> But of course, you don't have to; you can just stand, sit and lie. Do

> what is true for you.

>

>

> Atlanta, GA

>

[Guest guest]

Tammy

Are we permitted to doubt the instinct of survival (theoretically

only) IF according to it is not a primary Want and what happens

when we do.

>

> I am sorry,

> I didn't understand the question

>

> Can you say it again in other words?

>

> T

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> -- stand, sit, lie- what do we want to do?

>

> If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't even have

> to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do several

> things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry,

I didn't understand the question

Can you say it again in other words?

T

-- stand, sit, lie- what do we want to do?

If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't even have

to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do several

things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

[Guest guest]

Dear Nel,

how nice to hear from you!

Am 12.08.2006 um 16:24 schrieb nel stevens:

> If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't even have

> to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do several

> things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

who forces you to do what?

You notice that you eat. Who forced you?

And if you say " the ego " , then you just created an ego.

Don't try to take too many steps at once. It doesn't work. haven't

you noticed?

Love,

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[Guest guest]

Dear nel stevens,

My understanding is that the eliminating is done via what

refers to as the Heart. The Course in Miracles calls this the Holy

Spirit and I have also heard it referred to as the " Higher Self " and

the " Mind of Christ " , among others. Basically, it is a part of our

mind that still remembers who we actually are.

For me, this is trusted due to the good, peaceful, happy feelings it

brings for me.

And yes, in my humble opinion, the Truth is already known by us, and

when this Heart brings it to our awareness, it is like

a " remembering " rather than a " learning " .

Steve D.

> > > > >

> > > > > If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't

> > even have

> > > > > to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> > > > > The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to

do

> > > > several

> > > > > things, is it's existence questionable or how is it

explained?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > According to The Course in Miracles, that is the duality of

ego

> > versus

> > > > spirit. That is why " The Work " is so important; to

investigate

> > the

> > > > outside thoughts of the ego. Then the decision maker (as it

is

> > called

> > > > In the Course of Miracles) can decide if it is spirit or

ego. If

> > you

> > > > are interested in further explaination, I recommend reading

one

> > of

> > > > Wapnicks book on The Course (be prepared for heaving

> > reading)

> > > > or Renard's book, " The Disappearance of the Universe. "

> > > > But of course, you don't have to; you can just stand, sit and

> > lie. Do

> > > > what is true for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Atlanta, GA

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear nel stevens,

I do not understand your post? What is " S,S & L " . Is S & L Savings and

Loan? By the way, The Work has no philosophy or beliefs about any of

this. The Work is simply 4 questions and a turn around.

And, I see you are dealing with what I refer to as " Level

Confusion " . To me, speaks from two different levels. One is

the level of this illusion in which there is a body and there can be

suffering. The other is Reality, in which there is only one Mind and

no separation. My guess is that this is done in order to assist

people to undeerstand. But again, what the hell do I know?

You awked and I answered.

Blessings, Steve D.

> > >

> > > If all we do , as KT says, is stand, sit and lie, -we don't

even have

> > > to have a pulse for it- then this is all that we want to do.

> > > The primary drive- or Want- for survival- that forces us to do

several

> > > things, is it's existence questionable or how is it explained?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

OK, now I understand SSL (stand sit lie). as you will notice, I

don't know much and A = B leaves me confused.

You said: " " All we can do is ssl " - all we want to do is ssl because

that's all we do- we don't want to do anything else... " .

I understand the first part (All we can do is ssl); however the rest

of your statement I do not agree with (all we want to do is ssl

because that's all we do- we don't want to do anything else). I see

us wanting a lot of things.

By the way, I don't take 's statment regarding S,S & L

literally, I believe she uses that as a teaching mechanism so that we

understand that we are not really doing anything. That we are merely

being aware of thoughts and accepting them as true and that gives us

what we call a life and a body and a world and a universe.

Steve D.

> >

> > Nel,

> >

> > You said:

> > " Are we permitted to doubt the instinct of survival (theoretically

> > > only) IF according to it is not a primary Want and what

> > happens when we do. "

> >

> > I have never heard Ktie say anything about an " instinct of

> > survival " ??? So to say, " according to " , does not make

sense to

> > me?

>

> KT did not say it- i did.

>

> It is a conduction or what is the word where B is concluded from A?

> If you notice it starts with IF?

> " All we can do is ssl " - all we want to do is ssl because that's

all

> we do- we don't want to do anything else...

>

> > But, if I doubt the " instinct of survival " , the same thing would

> > happen as whe do not doubt it. The only thing that ever happens

is I

> > tell myself another story.

> >

> > says, " If we make a choice, the worst thing that can happen

is

> > a Concept, and if we make a different choice, the worst thing

that

> > can happen is a Concept. "

> >

> > Blessings, Steve D.

>