Re: Higher pay with LIC-P.

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thank you for you agreeing with me. I was really expecting to have

someone say something mean to me. Good luck with your career, it

happened for me and it will happen for you.

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I have to agree with you . Not everyone can go to college and get

their license when they would like to go. I am a single mother that goes

to school and works full-time. I thank God daily that Gene Gandy is my

instructor and he is such a wonderful instructor and person in general.

It is true that if you want something bad enough you will get it.

Sometimes it just takes time. Sometimes you need a little extra help and

understanding from other people.

For the ones who think they are Para-Gods just because they have their

license, they better step back and remember what they are first. EMT's.

We all started out as the same thing and we all are still the same

regardless whether we are licensed or not.

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& gt;From: " kelly bryan " & lt;kasyd@... & gt;

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& gt;Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:40:51 PST

& gt;Subject: [texasems-L] Re: Higher pay with LIC-P.

& gt;

& gt;DONN

& gt;

& gt;i want to start this off by saying i agree with you that if you want

it

& gt;bad enough you will find away, no excuses. But you have to realize

a

& gt;few factors, for one I am a certified medic, my husband is a medic

as

& gt;well and both of us want to get our license. We have kids, guess

who

& gt;gets to go to school first and who stays home and watches the kids?

You

& gt;guessed it! Little ole' me. I'm not bitching and I am not " holding "

& gt;back the proffession but I am doing the best that I can and I know a

lot

& gt;of female medics who are in my shoes, the man is the bread winner so

you

& gt;new licensed medics need to give everyone a chance to better

themselves

& gt;before you start drawing lines on who deserves more of what. Check

some

& gt;of the posts, there are already comments. I'm just asking everyone

to

& gt;be patient and let some time go by before they start making those

& gt;comments, people get defensive, I would if I was trying and not

quite

& gt;there yet. Just don't let this divide everyone. You know ems folks

are

& gt;very proud.

& gt;

& gt;kelly

& gt;emt-p

& gt;

& gt;

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& gt;

& gt; & lt;table & gt; & lt;tr & gt; & lt;td & gt; & lt;pre & gt;

& gt;To begin with, I wish you would sign your post so that I would know

how

& gt;to

& gt;address my reply. I know you've posted here before as I recognize

you

& gt;email

& gt;address, but I don't remember your name.

& gt;

& gt;As far as a licensed paramedic being able to work a code any

" better "

& gt;than

& gt;an EMT-P, this is kind of a silly question. I find myself wondering

why

& gt;you

& gt;would even ask such a question. As has been eloquently stated in the

& gt;past,

& gt;given enough time a reasonably adept orangutan could be taught to

work

& gt;the

& gt;ACLS algorithms. There is no true understanding involved in working

a

& gt;code

& gt;by algorithm, only rote memorization.

& gt;

& gt;List members have gone over this and similar questions in the past

to

& gt;the

& gt;point that I thought everyone understood the rational for licensure

by

& gt;now.

& gt;It is a first, small step toward what we hope will be greater

& gt;professional

& gt;acceptance by our fellows in allied healthcare. Enhanced educational

& gt;requirements will be what separates the wheat from the chafe in our

& gt;profession.

& gt;

& gt;You complain that you were " unable to take the extra classes needed'

to

& gt;qualify for licensure. Why were you unable to do so? Are you still

& gt;unable?

& gt;If so, why? And would you hold back the entire profession just

because

& gt;you

& gt;can't make it for some reason or another? I don't want to be

critical

of

& gt;you

& gt;personally, but your post bears a strong resemblance to a bunch of

sour

& gt;grapes.

& gt;

& gt;Most people who make this argument say they can't afford to go back

to

& gt;school. Either the time or the expense of getting the necessary

degree

& gt;is

& gt;preventing them from being able to move forward. I say hogwash to

both.

& gt;If

& gt;you want it bad enough you will find the way. It can be done if one

has

& gt;the

& gt;proper tools. You have one tool sitting in front of right now. It is

& gt;possible to get both undergraduate and graduate degrees these days

and

& gt;never

& gt;leave the comfort of home. Internet classes and other modes of

distance

& gt;education are becoming commonplace. There are scholarships and

grants

& gt;available if you don't have the money. In short, there is no reason

why

& gt;you

& gt;can't become a licensed paramedic if you truly want to.

& gt;

& gt;I don't have a degree either, yet I want to be licensed. I shall

find

a

& gt;way

& gt;to gain the degree - one way or another. I will continue to be a

thorn

& gt;in

& gt;the side of the educators around the state until I am finally able

to

& gt;sew

& gt;that a gold trimmed paramedic patch on my shoulder. If you care

about

& gt;the

& gt;future of our profession, you will find a way too.

& gt;

& gt;Regards,

& gt;Donn

& gt;-- --

& gt;D.E. (Donn) , REMT-P

& gt;Safety & amp;amp; Training Coordinator

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& gt;

& gt; [texasems-L] Re: Higher pay with LIC-P.

& gt;

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt;I think it's wonderful that all of have had the time and

money to

go

& gt;gain

& gt;all

& gt; & amp;gt;the college credits you need to have the extra initials

added to

& gt;Emt-

& gt; & amp;gt;P.........I'll make sure the next time I work a code the

patient

& gt;understands

& gt; & amp;gt;that I was unable to take the extra classes needed to have

those

& gt;initials

& gt;and

& gt; & amp;gt;maybe they would like to wait on there MI until someone who

and

& gt;composition

& gt; & amp;gt;and Rhetoric and computer science could arrive on scene.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt;I don't mean to try and take anyone's glory and I'm so happy

for

all

& gt;of you

& gt;to

& gt; & amp;gt;have earned your glorified honer initials, but does that now

mean

& gt;you can

& gt;work

& gt; & amp;gt;a code better than me??? I know some basics I'd rather have

work

on

& gt;me

& gt;than

& gt; & amp;gt;the Emt -P and they don't even have P or the red

& gt;patch............now all

& gt; & amp;gt;those that had the time and money for college and was able

to

obtain

& gt;a

& gt; & amp;gt;degree.............POOF, is now smarter and a better medic

than

& gt;myself, wow

& gt; & amp;gt;I'm impressed.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt;At least pick a new subject.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt;Emt-P

& gt; & amp;gt;

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