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Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is called just

" Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some additional T3. I

was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while being told my

thyroid was normal.

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Cate

I was on Levothyroxine for 25 years and I found a great doctor in Toronto, who treats adrenals with Cortef and Thyroid with desiccated thyroid which in the USA is called Armour. He does the Saliva test your first visit. He's a great compassionate Naturopathic Medical Doctor and he is coverred by OHIP. Except the $80.00 fee the first visit (the visit is 1 hour long and ohip only pays for 15 min. but that is a one time fee) I can't say enough good things about this doc. Is it ok to post his name Val or so you want it emailed?

Jill>> Hi I'm new. I'm Cate, I'm 40 and I've been hypo for 12 years (at > least). I take levo (200mcg) and I feel like crap. I need to nap for > 2 hours every afternoon. I'm at the end of my rope and I have all the > hypo symptoms you can think of. My dr quite blankly told me at my last > appt "your TSH is normal, its too bad because I can't give you any more > thyroid meds". > > SO here I am. I really need to find me a doc that will give me some > T3. I looked through my chart, and the last time my T3 was checked was > 2003 and it was below the reference range. I suspect its still like > that because, well I still feel like crap.> > If anyone has a good doc in Toronto Canada I'd appreciate hearing from > you, either here or through email.> > many thanks... and wish me luck. I'm going to go see this guy next > week and ASK for some T3 point blank.> > Cate>

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I have an appt with my family doc next tuesday. I'm not good at

confrontation but I'm going to ask. I'm also going to call tomorrow and

see if I can get an appt with Jill's guy.

Wish me luck. I can't keep going liek this. I'm a tired, sapped out

mess.

Back when I was first diagnosed 12 years ago, I has a tsh of something

like 150 or 180 and an uptake in the hyper range. Go figure. It all

evenutally netted out as hypo and I've felt like crap since. I take

200 mcg of levo (I believe) and its doing very little even though its a

big dose. Somethings gotta give.

thanks for listening

cate

>

> Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is called just

> " Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some additional T3.

I

> was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while being told

my

> thyroid was normal.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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> > Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is called just

> > " Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some additional

T3.

> I

> > was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while being

told

> my

> > thyroid was normal.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

CATE,

I have Hashimotos and need both Synthroid and Cytomel

combination...I take 100mcg of Synthroid every morning along with a 5

mcg Cytomel and another 5 mcg Cytomel in the afternoon...it has

helped me alot. I have a great doctor who listens and has been a

thyroid activist for 40 years...he also prescribes Armour (natural

thyroid) but I am allergic to it for some reason. So this T4/T3 combo

works for me...Good Luck.

Fran

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Hmm, allergic to the armour. That is instesting. What symptoms did

you get? I am a bit worried about that actually as I've had allergic

reactions to some drugs (and other things).

cate

> > >

> > > Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is called

just

> > > " Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some

additional

> T3.

> > I

> > > was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while being

> told

> > my

> > > thyroid was normal.

> > >

> > > --

> > > Artistic Grooming-

Hurricane

> WV

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > >

> >

> CATE,

>

> I have Hashimotos and need both Synthroid and Cytomel

> combination...I take 100mcg of Synthroid every morning along with a

5

> mcg Cytomel and another 5 mcg Cytomel in the afternoon...it has

> helped me alot. I have a great doctor who listens and has been a

> thyroid activist for 40 years...he also prescribes Armour (natural

> thyroid) but I am allergic to it for some reason. So this T4/T3

combo

> works for me...Good Luck.

> Fran

>

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Thanks to Jill, I managed to get an appt with her doc. Its not until

may but its a BIG start.

I'll keep you posted on how it goes at my family doc on tuesday

cate

> > > >

> > > > Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is called

> just

> > > > " Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some

> additional

> > T3.

> > > I

> > > > was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while

being

> > told

> > > my

> > > > thyroid was normal.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Artistic Grooming-

> Hurricane

> > WV

> > > >

> > > >

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > > >

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > > >

> > >

> > CATE,

> >

> > I have Hashimotos and need both Synthroid and Cytomel

> > combination...I take 100mcg of Synthroid every morning along with

a

> 5

> > mcg Cytomel and another 5 mcg Cytomel in the afternoon...it has

> > helped me alot. I have a great doctor who listens and has been a

> > thyroid activist for 40 years...he also prescribes Armour

(natural

> > thyroid) but I am allergic to it for some reason. So this T4/T3

> combo

> > works for me...Good Luck.

> > Fran

> >

>

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> > > > >

> > > > > Cate I would ask for natural thyroid. In Canada it is

called

> > just

> > > > > " Thyroid " and you would feel SO much better with some

> > additional

> > > T3.

> > > > I

> > > > > was oin Syncrap for 25 years an almost died all the while

> being

> > > told

> > > > my

> > > > > thyroid was normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Artistic Grooming-

> > Hurricane

> > > WV

> > > > >

> > > > >

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > > > >

> > >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > CATE,

> > >

> > > I have Hashimotos and need both Synthroid and Cytomel

> > > combination...I take 100mcg of Synthroid every morning along

with

> a

> > 5

> > > mcg Cytomel and another 5 mcg Cytomel in the afternoon...it has

> > > helped me alot. I have a great doctor who listens and has been

a

> > > thyroid activist for 40 years...he also prescribes Armour

> (natural

> > > thyroid) but I am allergic to it for some reason. So this T4/T3

> > combo

> > > works for me...Good Luck.

> > > Fran

> > >

> >When my doctor prescribed me the Armour he gave me the smallest

dose to begin with. I was only on it for 2 days but became very

hyperthryroid (resting pulse 102) with even the smallest dosage and

called the doctor's office and they said to stop taking it until I

see the doctor again. (The funny thing is that my mother who has had

a thyroid problem her whole life swears by the Armour...she is unable

to take the Synthroid because she is allergic to that!)

At that point he recommended the Synthroid and then eventually added

the Cytomel. The only time I became hyperthyroid was when I took too

much Cytomel at one time...now the amount I am taking spread out over

the day is perfect for me. Fran

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Fran this is an adrenal reaction NOT an allergic reaction. Please get

adrena; saliva labs done. You can order your own through

www.canaryclub.org they are reasonable and i can help you treat them to

where you will tolerate not only T3 but Armour.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

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Fran and Cate

I had the same reactions when I started Armour. Dr D put me on Cortef and all was well after I got my dose of Cortef up to 22 mg and learning about stress dosing. If it wasn't for Val back on the ol STTM site I wouldn't have made it. She walked me right through it and Dr. D agreed with it. I'm off the Cortef and off the Armour as well, RT3 thing happening . Just started all Cytomel 3 days ago and I'm down 5 pounds already, yipeeeeeeee! >> Fran this is an adrenal reaction NOT an allergic reaction. Please get > adrena; saliva labs done. You can order your own through > www.canaryclub.org they are reasonable and i can help you treat them to > where you will tolerate not only T3 but Armour.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets>

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> >

> > Fran this is an adrenal reaction NOT an allergic reaction. Please

get

> > adrena; saliva labs done. You can order your own through

> > www.canaryclub.org they are reasonable and i can help you treat

them

> to

> > where you will tolerate not only T3 but Armour.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

> >

>Funny you mention this because I have just gotten 2 books on Adrenal

Fatigue and Burn Out....Adrenal Fatigue by and Mastering

Cortisol by Marilyn Glenville...Back in November my Doctor wanted me

to try to get off the Synthroid and just go on Cytomel...32 mcg a

day. After 1 month off the Synthroid I was 100% hypothyroid

again...my muscles ached, my joints hurt, depression began to settle

in, brain fog and extreme tiredness...someone at work asked me why I

looked so tired and how my thyroid was doing...that was the wake up

call for me to realize I needed the Synthroid so I began taking 50

mcg a day and within 2 weeks alot of my symptoms went away but the

other thing I did was stop taking the Cytomel at that point...within

1 month after starting the Synthroid again but stopping the Cytomel

my physical symptoms improved but my mental and emotional symptom did

not. I thought that maybe I had an adrenal problem so began to read

all about it and go back to my doctor...at the same time I also

realized I needed Cytomel but small dosage at a time. Within the day

I took the extra Cytomel I began to feel better mentally and

emotionally. After seeing the doctor last week and mentioning

posbbible Adrenal Fatigue but also mentioning the fact that I am on

both Synthroid and Cytomel my symptoms are disappearing and I am

beginning to feel normal again he mentioned the saliva test. He

muscle tested me for adrenals and I seemed to be strong in that area

so he said keep with my plan on both the T4/T3 and keep a diary on

how I am feeling...meanwhile I am taking advice from Dr 's book

on Adrenal recovery.

Fran

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