Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 I am fatigued to the point I haven't been to work for 3 weeks, drs trying to find out why. I have been depressed, very forgetful, muscle aches, diarrhea, and just generally feel like crap. Of course the drs think that since I mentioned depression that it is all in my head and put me on anti-depressants. They are quick to do that, "just in case". I do have thyroid disease in my family. www.stargaitshetlands.comwww.stargaitstyles.com Re: Re: Test Results ... Gray/Opinion area here.... What are your symptoms? If it were me.. and I felt like crap.. if I were here and looking at other peoples experiences and symptoms and were comparing mine with theirs.. if I knew I had thyroid disease in my family (as I do), and my labs looked like yours... I'd be looking for another doc... If I didn't have insurance.. Knowing what I know now about what happens to you over time (yeah, it takes years...but) when you are hypo.... I'd be getting a new doc that listens.. or I'd be self medicating if I had no access to a doc... We can get the meds ourselves. now.. we can order the labs ourselves now.. we can post our lab results in an open forum, like this, and have others that have gone through these same issues before us.. help us to understand, to give us courage and to help us explore available options. We can now gather information and with that information make decisions about controlling and improving our health.... You are the only one that can decide if the way that you feel is okay... and if it is, great... and if it is not... it is for you to decide in which direction and with what strength you go forward to find a way to feel better. We're here to help, where we can. To listen, when you need us... and to stand beside you if you need us to stand with you. I do self medicate with OTC. I have no insurance and finances are not sufficient to find a doc on my own... I found myself choosing between my health continuing to deteriorate and ending in death (I do not have a functioning thyroid), death is inevitable.... or choosing to find a way to treat myself... I chose to gamble... to self medicate. Might not be the right choice for everyone..but it is for me. Topper ()Group Co-owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:24:31 -0400 " " writes: My dr says I am normal and I am not on any meds. Now I have to convince a dr. I was thinking about trying the OTC. www.stargaitshetlands.comwww.stargaitstyles.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 , I'm gonna jump up and down and say find a new doc.. get on meds.. depression is a sign of thyroid.. and so are the other things that you've listed. .... and in my opinion depression can be triggered just by being bummed out about being sick and not knowing why.. I just don't understand why they immediately have to put everyone on anti-depressants without even trying to find out what is going on... Depression doesn't have to be this new fangled fancy disease that is so IN to be medication for... IMHO Now.. we all know too that your other symptoms can also be other things.. but to me your lab results are showing numbers on the low side for your Frees... ....some one else jump in here with some opinions.. I'm not the only one here with a voice and needs to hear from more than just me. You know what? I'm starting to think that they are using anit-depressants as something to settle folks down and stretch things out.. makes more money for them 'cause we're gonna keep getting sicker but with the anti-depressants we won't have enough UMPH to fight them to treat us properly.... ....oh gosh.. I'm climbed back on my soap box again.. sorry about that.... Maybe we should have a closet here where we can put our soap boxes and then lock the door... heehehehehehhe Topper ()http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:14:13 -0400 " " writes: I am fatigued to the point I haven't been to work for 3 weeks, drs trying to find out why. I have been depressed, very forgetful, muscle aches, diarrhea, and just generally feel like crap. Of course the drs think that since I mentioned depression that it is all in my head and put me on anti-depressants. They are quick to do that, "just in case". I do have thyroid disease in my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Topper, Thanks for your replies, they have helped. I was hoping to get input from several people. I see another dr on Monday and will talk to her and see what she has to say before I self-medicate. www.stargaitshetlands.comwww.stargaitstyles.com Re: Re: Test Results , I'm gonna jump up and down and say find a new doc.. get on meds.. depression is a sign of thyroid.. and so are the other things that you've listed. .... and in my opinion depression can be triggered just by being bummed out about being sick and not knowing why.. I just don't understand why they immediately have to put everyone on anti-depressants without even trying to find out what is going on... Depression doesn't have to be this new fangled fancy disease that is so IN to be medication for... IMHO Now.. we all know too that your other symptoms can also be other things.. but to me your lab results are showing numbers on the low side for your Frees... ....some one else jump in here with some opinions.. I'm not the only one here with a voice and needs to hear from more than just me. You know what? I'm starting to think that they are using anit-depressants as something to settle folks down and stretch things out.. makes more money for them 'cause we're gonna keep getting sicker but with the anti-depressants we won't have enough UMPH to fight them to treat us properly.... ....oh gosh.. I'm climbed back on my soap box again.. sorry about that.... Maybe we should have a closet here where we can put our soap boxes and then lock the door... heehehehehehhe Topper ()http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:14:13 -0400 " " writes: I am fatigued to the point I haven't been to work for 3 weeks, drs trying to find out why. I have been depressed, very forgetful, muscle aches, diarrhea, and just generally feel like crap. Of course the drs think that since I mentioned depression that it is all in my head and put me on anti-depressants. They are quick to do that, "just in case". I do have thyroid disease in my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 I second that emotion. Re: Re: Test Results ... Gray/Opinion area here.... What are your symptoms? If it were me.. and I felt like crap.. if I were here and looking at other peoples experiences and symptoms and were comparing mine with theirs.. if I knew I had thyroid disease in my family (as I do), and my labs looked like yours... I'd be looking for another doc... If I didn't have insurance.. Knowing what I know now about what happens to you over time (yeah, it takes years...but) when you are hypo.... I'd be getting a new doc that listens.. or I'd be self medicating if I had no access to a doc... We can get the meds ourselves. now.. we can order the labs ourselves now.. we can post our lab results in an open forum, like this, and have others that have gone through these same issues before us.. help us to understand, to give us courage and to help us explore available options. We can now gather information and with that information make decisions about controlling and improving our health.... You are the only one that can decide if the way that you feel is okay... and if it is, great... and if it is not... it is for you to decide in which direction and with what strength you go forward to find a way to feel better. We're here to help, where we can. To listen, when you need us... and to stand beside you if you need us to stand with you. I do self medicate with OTC. I have no insurance and finances are not sufficient to find a doc on my own... I found myself choosing between my health continuing to deteriorate and ending in death (I do not have a functioning thyroid), death is inevitable.... or choosing to find a way to treat myself... I chose to gamble... to self medicate. Might not be the right choice for everyone..but it is for me. Topper ()Group Co-owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:24:31 -0400 " " writes: My dr says I am normal and I am not on any meds. Now I have to convince a dr. I was thinking about trying the OTC. www.stargaitshetlands.comwww.stargaitstyles.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 You know what the real truth is? Nursing staffs everywhere are being underpaid and worked to death, so the medical profession is crying for good people to work the field. Hence, many do not want to work this field or change jobs often because of understaffing and being worked to death. To me, the doctor is no longer the caregiver. He or she comes and stands 10 feet away from the patient and makes a diagnosis because he or she has triple-stacked appointments here, there, and yon. That is why I do not feel sorry for doctors at all. Generally, most nursing staffs in clinics, hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care facilities want to do a good job for their patients (though some don't have any business in the field; they just decided on "curtain # 3" because the field is so open to jobs). Needn't ask the reason why (see the above). The other reasons why doctors are in such a hurry are lack of concern for humanity, personal gain, and a severe lack of the "right" education. Also, gigantic egos with some. In the end, though, there is no excuse. It's like this-----if you can't stand by the hypocratic oath, as it was 100 yrs. ago, or if you can't stand the heat----get out of the fire. I've also seen just as many female docs as bad about negligence and unconcern as male ones, and this is an absolute disgrace to womanhood (what? you betray your own kind in YOUR field????). I've seen the volunteers in a facility give better care than some of the staff. Of course, maybe some of the nursing staff have been working around the clock for the last 24 hours, but if you think the owners or administrations of these facilities care, you're wrong. They want "a body" in place, so that they can say that it's staffed. Who cares if they haven't slept in days. And, from what I've seen, MOST doctors have no respect for their nursing staffs, and it doesn't matter whether they're male or female. This is why I view doctors as no better than anyone else walking around on the street. I've been out of the hero worship stage for 10 years now. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that I know more about me than he or she does, and when I really think about it, I'm pretty sure that I probably know more about their patients than they do. If that sounds smug, it's not intended to be. It's just that, after awhile, after your mouth stops dropping open at what you see, you're going to get pretty indignant. With the large amounts of money that people pay for their medical care they deserve the finest, frankly. And no less. Seriously Sudsing Re: Re: Test Results , I'm gonna jump up and down and say find a new doc.. get on meds.. depression is a sign of thyroid.. and so are the other things that you've listed. .... and in my opinion depression can be triggered just by being bummed out about being sick and not knowing why.. I just don't understand why they immediately have to put everyone on anti-depressants without even trying to find out what is going on... Depression doesn't have to be this new fangled fancy disease that is so IN to be medication for... IMHO Now.. we all know too that your other symptoms can also be other things.. but to me your lab results are showing numbers on the low side for your Frees... ....some one else jump in here with some opinions.. I'm not the only one here with a voice and needs to hear from more than just me. You know what? I'm starting to think that they are using anit-depressants as something to settle folks down and stretch things out.. makes more money for them 'cause we're gonna keep getting sicker but with the anti-depressants we won't have enough UMPH to fight them to treat us properly.... ....oh gosh.. I'm climbed back on my soap box again.. sorry about that.... Maybe we should have a closet here where we can put our soap boxes and then lock the door... heehehehehehhe Topper ()http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:14:13 -0400 " " writes: I am fatigued to the point I haven't been to work for 3 weeks, drs trying to find out why. I have been depressed, very forgetful, muscle aches, diarrhea, and just generally feel like crap. Of course the drs think that since I mentioned depression that it is all in my head and put me on anti-depressants. They are quick to do that, "just in case". I do have thyroid disease in my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 T4 14.7 (8-21) T3 4.8 (2.5-6) TSH 1.4 (.2-4) Ferratin 25 (15-230) Cortison 226 Calcium 2.44 Your thyrodi is not horribly low but you do have a conversion problem. Your T4 seem sot be at a good level but I prefer seeing T3 higher than yours is, BUT your low Ferritin will prevent you utilizing thyroid hormones well. SO that should be corrected first. Usually it take 150-200 mg daily of elemental iron to bring ferritin levels up in a few months time,. Then you should probably retest to see if just correcting the low ferritin has improved your T3 levels, but I imagine what will happen is the T4 will also drop as more T3 is converted making you just a tiny buit hypothyrod all the time. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Val, I some of my test results back & I'd like you to look over them but for the sex hormones I'm not sure what reference range to put down. I had a partial hysterectomy several years ago. Mid- follicular, peri-ovulatory, mid-luteal or post-menopausal phase. They need a pre or menopause phase. But here are my thyroid ones: Please note that I took my T3 & hc a couple of hours prior to the test because they weren't suppose to do it that day. Thyroid Stim. Hormone: 0.85 (0.34 - 5.60) T3, Free: 4.6 ( 2.39 - 6.79) T3-Total: 1.84 (0.8 - 2.0) T4, Free: 0.53 (0.58 - 1.64) T4, Total: 4.2 (4.5 - 12.5) Anti-Thyrog: 241.8 (0.0 25.0) T3, Reverse: 112 (90 - 350) Thyr Peroxidase: 7 (0 - 60) Sex Hormone Binding Glob. 69 (18.0 - 114.0) Thank you, Gayle > > Good idea. I will be glad to look them over. Yes no T3 the AM before the > blood draw. HC is fine. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thyroid Stim. Hormone: 0.85 (0.34 - 5.60) T3, Free: 4.6 ( 2.39 - 6.79) T3-Total: 1.84 (0.8 - 2.0) T4, Free: 0.53 (0.58 - 1.64) T4, Total: 4.2 (4.5 - 12.5) Anti-Thyrog: 241.8 (0.0 25.0) T3, Reverse: 112 (90 - 350) Thyr Peroxidase: 7 (0 - 60) Sex Hormone Binding Glob. 69 (18.0 - 114.0) While your T3/RT3 ratio is fine you are still hypo. Especially as these labs are reflecting peak T3 values. On all T3 I would expect a TSH of .0? if you were not hypo, my last was .015 with my Free T3 at 6.2. Your highish ATGAB also shows you are still hypo and not supressing the thyroid enough ot lower the antibodies. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thanks Val, What about the ref range for the sex hormones? > > Thyroid Stim. Hormone: 0.85 (0.34 - 5.60) > T3, Free: 4.6 ( 2.39 - 6.79) > T3-Total: 1.84 (0.8 - 2.0) > T4, Free: 0.53 (0.58 - 1.64) > T4, Total: 4.2 (4.5 - 12.5) > Anti-Thyrog: 241.8 (0.0 25.0) > T3, Reverse: 112 (90 - 350) > Thyr Peroxidase: 7 (0 - 60) > Sex Hormone Binding Glob. 69 (18.0 - 114.0) > > While your T3/RT3 ratio is fine you are still hypo. Especially as these labs are reflecting peak T3 values. On all T3 I would expect a TSH of .0? if you were not hypo, my last was .015 with my Free T3 at 6.2. Your highish ATGAB also shows you are still hypo and not supressing the thyroid enough ot lower the antibodies. > > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I take it you no longer have persiods? Then I would go wioth post meno ranges but TOP of those ranges as they tend to recommend too low. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Okay, here's the hormones & everything else. I hope it's okay to get your comment. Thank you. Estradiol: 110 (20-88) postmenopausal range Testosterone: 49.9 (6-82) Testosterone Free: 1.1 (0.4-2.4) Progesterone: 10.86 (0.08-.78) Follicle Stim. Hormone: 2.8 (16.74-113.59) Lutenizing Hormone: 2.1 (10.8-61.4) Glucose: 70 (65-99) BUN: 16 (7-25) Creatine: 1.1 (0.5-1.2) Calcium: 9.0 (8.5-10.4) Sodium: 140 (135-146) Potassium: 4.1 (3.5-5.3) Chloride: 104 (98-110) Carbon Dioxide: 25 (21-33) Total Protein: 7.5 (6.0-8.5) Albumin 4.5 (3.5-4.9) Alkaline Phosphatase: 65 (25-140) SGOT (AST): 18 (5-40) Bilirubin, Total: 0.5 (0.1-1.39) SGRT (ALT): 17 (5-40) WBC: 6.8 (3.8-10.8) RBC 4.72 (3.9-5.4) Hemoglobin: 15.3 (11.9-15.8) Hematocrit: 44.4% (37-47) MCV: 94.1 (80-100) MCH: 32.4 (27-33) MCHC: 34.4 (30-37) RDW: 12.3 10.1-16.5) Neutrophils: 72.4 (40-74) Lymphocytes: 21.1 (19.48) Monocytes: 4.6 (1.4-9.0) Eosinophils: 1.6 (0-7) Basophils: 0.3 (0.0-1.5) Platelet Count: 224 (130-440) Insulin Like Growth Fact: 182 (40-256) I'm not sure what most of these are. I know you know alot about the heart and other things so I hope you have the time to look them over. It seems I'm normal from looking at the ranges but ranges aren't always clear to me. Thanks so much! Gayle > > I take it you no longer have persiods? Then I would go wioth post meno > ranges but TOP of those ranges as they tend to recommend too low. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Estradiol: 110 (20-88) postmenopausal range Testosterone: 49.9 (6-82) Testosterone Free: 1.1 (0.4-2.4) Progesterone: 10.86 (0.08-.78) Follicle Stim. Hormone: 2.8 (16.74-113.59) Lutenizing Hormone: 2.1 (10.8-61.4) Ok what I see here is possibly a TINY bit lo cortios as your estrogen is still a bit over range, btu not enough to worry about. You could use some testosterone and definitely progesterone. Your glucose is a tiny bit low, but thta is MUCH better than high! Also shows you might need a tiny bit more HC. Most the other labs do nto mean much to me either, btu your sodium is a tad low, so increase sea salt, and Insulin Like Growth Factor is a way to look at Growth hormone and yours looks a bit low. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Val, Why does she need progesterone? Isn't it already very high over range? I don't see what you are seeing? sol wrote: > Progesterone: 10.86 (0.08-.78) > > You could use some testosterone and definitely progesterone. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 HMM not sure what I was seeing, maybe I crossed the ranges up, but no this doesn;t look low at all. >>Why does she need progesterone? Isn't it already very high over range? I don't see what you are seeing? sol wrote: > > Progesterone: 10.86 (0.08-.78) -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Val: I need some help please. I went to a doc yesterday & to my surprise my face shape change is call myxedema, I think. My hypo symptoms are getting worse & I don't know what to do. I have been off of Amrour for maybe 6 months or so. I had to lower cortisol because of swelling, hot & breathing trouble. I was at 40 mg hc & have been at 5 mg one in a.m. & one in afternoon for awhile. When I do increase I get so hot! I can't breath for hours after! My feet get red & swollen. But I think I need it because if I try to increase my T3 I either get hyper or fall asleep. I take 37.5 mcg T3 upon rising & about 1 1/2 hours later it's major hyper. Today was the worst. It took me 3 days to realize it's too much T3 because each day was worse but I didn't make the connection until today. About 7 or 8 hours later I take another 12.5 and then 6.25 later on with the 5 mg of hc. So, I need to lower my T3 in the morning dose. My questions are: How much T3 can I safely lower at one time? and How can I increase the cortisol or heal my adrenals when every single time I increase it I get low blood sugar symptoms with swelling and feeling so hot after the increase? Any suggestions? Thank you! Gayle > > Thyroid Stim. Hormone: 0.85 (0.34 - 5.60) > T3, Free: 4.6 ( 2.39 - 6.79) > T3-Total: 1.84 (0.8 - 2.0) > T4, Free: 0.53 (0.58 - 1.64) > T4, Total: 4.2 (4.5 - 12.5) > Anti-Thyrog: 241.8 (0.0 25.0) > T3, Reverse: 112 (90 - 350) > Thyr Peroxidase: 7 (0 - 60) > Sex Hormone Binding Glob. 69 (18.0 - 114.0) > > While your T3/RT3 ratio is fine you are still hypo. Especially as these labs are reflecting peak T3 values. On all T3 I would expect a TSH of .0? if you were not hypo, my last was .015 with my Free T3 at 6.2. Your highish ATGAB also shows you are still hypo and not supressing the thyroid enough ot lower the antibodies. > > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Val: It's the hc. I just took 5 mg and my heart is racign & I am hotttt > > > > Thyroid Stim. Hormone: 0.85 (0.34 - 5.60) > > T3, Free: 4.6 ( 2.39 - 6.79) > > T3-Total: 1.84 (0.8 - 2.0) > > T4, Free: 0.53 (0.58 - 1.64) > > T4, Total: 4.2 (4.5 - 12.5) > > Anti-Thyrog: 241.8 (0.0 25.0) > > T3, Reverse: 112 (90 - 350) > > Thyr Peroxidase: 7 (0 - 60) > > Sex Hormone Binding Glob. 69 (18.0 - 114.0) > > > > While your T3/RT3 ratio is fine you are still hypo. Especially as > these labs are reflecting peak T3 values. On all T3 I would expect a > TSH of .0? if you were not hypo, my last was .015 with my Free T3 at > 6.2. Your highish ATGAB also shows you are still hypo and not > supressing the thyroid enough ot lower the antibodies. > > > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hot and flushing from too much HC is rare unless it is allowing too much T3 to work at once. I htink I f it were me, I woudl stop the T3 completely and get the HC dose right first. Have you had labs done recently on this dose of T3? What about pulse and BP? Does it rise when you stand? Some peole that are VERY low in cortisl are very sensitive to changes in it. While I can take a 20mg stress dose and hardly feel it you might be bouncing off the walls. Usually people this sensitive to HC need it badly and the fix is low doses more often building slowly to till the symptoms calm down, but if it si allowing mini thyroid dumps every time you take ti it is never going to feel OK. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Another thing to try is taking sea salt wiht each HC dose. HC can lower Aldosterone and low sodium can cause those hot flushed feelings too. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hi Gayle, Hang in there! I think I had the same thing going on as you. It was up and down every day. I didn't get rashes, but had the breathing problems from too much and then felt awful with too little. Hope you find a good doctor soon. Rhonda Re: Re: Test Results Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a couple weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is going on. Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek high cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I would suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home. It can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Rhonda: Please tell me what you're doing for your adrenals & thyroid since you're not on hc. Gayle > > > > Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a > couple > > weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is > going on. > > Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where > > cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek > high > > cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I > would > > suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home. > It > > can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Gayle, I am only doing sea salt for the adrenals and a vitamin that has idoine in it from kelp for the thyroid and some magnesium. I had a second opinion by an endocrinologist and brought all my labs from Holtorf and she didn't feel I needed to be on either T3 or Cortisol. She had me do a Cortisol ACTH stimulation test . Val mentioned that it was supposed to double or even triple. Mine was 30 and then again in 45 minutes was only 46. This test was done when I got down to 5 mg of HC cream and then couldn't do it anymore like you, I went cold turkey for three days. I understand how you felt. I was a mess. I became really sad and very anxious. I think Val said she should have done a serum test also, but wasn't done. I have lost trust in my doctor at Holtorf and do not feel comfortable being under her care. So, I am now back on an antidepressant for my depression and taking an anti-anxiety med. I feel like I totally am back to square one. The muslce tension has returned, some nights worse than others and I really feel I am only treating symptoms, but I was basically bed ridden when all this happend because I didn't sleep for a couple months. I felt my memory was sharp when I was on the Cortisol/HC cream, but I didn't feel good. My potassium and sodium are on the low side of normal, but she didnt' mention anything about them. My vitamin D was also on the low side of normal and she has told me to supplement that. The endo also said that they don't gauge by the free T3 tests. They go by T4. She also told me that reading my labs done by Holtorf common sense says that they are good because ranges were within normal!! Mine was .30 and the range was .20-1.80. It is so funny how they don't believe in the free T3. To me common sense says that if the free T3 is low something isn't working right. Since that is the main thyroid hormone. Needless to say I was frustrated. I would love to hear what has been happening with you in your long journey of health. Rhonda I Re: Test Results Rhonda:Please tell me what you're doing for your adrenals & thyroid since you're not on hc.Gayle> >> > Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a > couple > > weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is > going on. > > Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where > > cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek > high > > cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I > would > > suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home. > It > > can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl.> > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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