Guest guest Posted January 7, 1999 Report Share Posted January 7, 1999 I'm sorry did I miss something about this topic . I have looked and not seen any put down posts or anything I am hopeless with this addiction too. Graham Re: NCC - smoking >At 01:10 PM 1/13/1999 EST, Vetnur@... wrote: >> it doesn't make any easier that >>they said PLEASE don't smoke. I say please don''t make me feel like shit!!! > >I know, and it's hard to explain it to friends because, as we know, they >have nothing but the best of intentions when they're telling us of the >dangers, etc. > >Oh well, this would likely be a fine time to drop the subject entirely :-) > >peace and cheers and pink bootineers, > >(yes i know it's spelled wrong) > >ronny > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 I started smoking a long time ago and it was cool to smoke then. I have never wanted to quit but my family reminds me occasionally that it is very very bad for me. Immediately after finding out my situation with chiari and all.........I told my daughter that I was now ....thinking about......thinking about (no typo) quitting. She grinned and said well at least that is something :-} I have since stopped thinking about thinking about it. I had an x-ray of the lungs and heart last month and a stress test. They were amazed at how great my heart and lungs are for a longtime smoker. Sorry but I have no plans of quitting anytime soon........... Coffee and cigarettes happen to be the glue that holds me together. Judy Marie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 Thank you ronny, I didn't want to be rude & didn't think I could reply without doing exactly that! It's as if you took everything I was feeling & said it with such grace. I appreciate your response & your right, the only thing those replies did were make me feel worse about myself. I hope the authorrs of these replies don't make everyone in there life feel worse about themselves, it doesn't make any easier that they said PLEASE don't smoke. I say please don''t make me feel like shit!!! marti ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 Hi I was one who replied and I'm sorry if I made you feel bad, that was not what I planned on doing. Like I said I watch my husband the last two weeks, with the lung surgery and the blood clot. Besides I am a nurse and seen many people suffer and die of lung problem. I didn't mean to lecture anyone, I just care about people and hate to see anyone suffer. Just because you smoke and find it difficult to quit that does not make you less of a person. Everyone needs to look inside real hard and see that each of us are Gods beautiful creations. I'm not saying anything is easy and giving up something we enjoy is even harder. Just hang in there. You are Gods child. God Bless-Jo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 JO, What a very nice response, God bless Patti ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 r wrote: > > I quit for about a week one time and seen, in slow motion, as I threw a > coffee table across the room in a fit of rage, landing within inches of my > young daughter. I quit quitting at that moment. Anyway, my point is that > the lectures just add to our already low self opinion. We already tend to > think we're weak enough without hearing it from others. > ad about yourself. And trust me, that's what the speeches do. That's all > they do. Ronny and others: I also smoke, have for years. I too have tried to vain to quit, the longest being 3 weeks, ended up not sleeping at all and went back to smoking. But my thought is this--I have tried Zyban, the medication used to help with withdrawl and it does work. As you may know, Zyban is Wellbutrin, the antidepressant. It helped me alot but then I started to get this side effect of feeling really spacey and detached from reality, so I had to discontinue it. If it weren't for that I probably would have quit successfully. Just thought I'd mention it just in case any of you want to try it. Good luck, Sheila ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 In a message dated 1/13/99 11:04:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, kitten@... writes: << I have since stopped thinking about thinking about it. I had an x-ray of the lungs and heart last month and a stress test. They were amazed at how great my heart and lungs are for a longtime smoker. Sorry but I have no plans of quitting anytime soon........... Coffee and cigarettes happen to be the glue that holds me together. >> It was the same with me when I was in having the ACM surgery, they told me they couldn't believed I smoked......My lungs were great and that thingy you have to suck threw after surgery (if anyone else did that is) I got it to the top Nooooooo problem!!!! He told me there was no way that I've smoked for 20 years...LOL but I have and probably will unless I can't afford to!! And that would be the ONLY reason I'd quit at this time, I've tried and failed too many times and I'm usually a B#$%#@ to live with when I do go without for a few days!!! =) Well just my two cents worth again!!!! Luv ya, Amy Jo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 Thanks for writing about this Ronny! You took the words right out of my mouth! Hugs Robin! r wrote: Whoever it was that first posted about smoking was opening up and asking for help. The only stipulation she gave was, "please, no speeches". Well, that plea was widely ignored. I don't expect she'll be opening up too many more times in the future. Those of you who never smoked, that's great. You were smart and lucky at the same time. Those of you who have managed to quit, you have my respect and admiration. I hope to join you as soon as possible. Those of us who haven't been able to quit yet don't need to be told it's not a good thing. It's an illness we have - a very serious addiction. And everyone's different in their level of addiction. If you managed to quit, it doesn't mean that I can quit as easily as you did. Darlene once told me that it was obvious by watching me smoke that I'm not doing it for pleasure - I'm using it as a medicine to control my seriously mess up nervous system. I would love to quit more than anything, but I'm unfortunately one of the ones who's addiction is so severe that quitting requires more will power than I can summon, even with aide of patches and gum and whatever else. I quit for about a week one time and seen, in slow motion, as I threw a coffee table across the room in a fit of rage, landing within inches of my young daughter. I quit quitting at that moment. Anyway, my point is that the lectures just add to our already low self opinion. We already tend to think we're weak enough without hearing it from others. Darlene's revelation to me, without being critical, that I have an illness didn't lessen my resolve to quit - it only made me feel a little better about myself. And when you feel better about yourself, your chances of quitting a bad habit are much better than when others help to make you feel bad about yourself. And trust me, that's what the speeches do. That's all they do. I'm not *stupid* for smoking. I made a *stupid* mistake when I was 14 by starting. I'm not *weak* because I haven't quit. I need help because I'm seriously addicted. Please don't bother to point out to us the negative aspects of smoking. We know. And we're all, I suspect, trying our best. ronny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 At 01:10 PM 1/13/1999 EST, Vetnur@... wrote: > it doesn't make any easier that >they said PLEASE don't smoke. I say please don''t make me feel like shit!!! I know, and it's hard to explain it to friends because, as we know, they have nothing but the best of intentions when they're telling us of the dangers, etc. Oh well, this would likely be a fine time to drop the subject entirely :-) peace and cheers and pink bootineers, (yes i know it's spelled wrong) ronny ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 Sure, there were plenty of *sharp* messages! Their general point was to stop making smokers feel bad by telling them not to smoke. For heaven's sake, she just watched someone DIE from the effects and wanted to attempt to protect those in the group from another negative health impact! There certainly was NO malintent in the message! KC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 1999 Report Share Posted January 13, 1999 I was fortunate to finally quite one month BEFORE I found out that I had acm/sm. What made me quit was reading an article about smoking, which stated that smoking robbed the body of calcium. I knew I had a bad back (just didn't know how bad) and I needed all the calcium I could have, and I was starting to break bones, foot and tail bone. I commend everyone who wants to quit, just remember it's not how often you quit-it's how long, each time gets a little longer. I had a friend tell me to only quit for six months, which is not too long (ha!) and then after six months you won't want to start up again. Good luck to all of you!!!! Re: NCC - smoking > > >r wrote: > >> >> I quit for about a week one time and seen, in slow motion, as I threw a >> coffee table across the room in a fit of rage, landing within inches of my >> young daughter. I quit quitting at that moment. Anyway, my point is that >> the lectures just add to our already low self opinion. We already tend to >> think we're weak enough without hearing it from others. >> ad about yourself. And trust me, that's what the speeches do. That's all >> they do. > >Ronny and others: > >I also smoke, have for years. I too have tried to vain to quit, the longest >being 3 weeks, ended up not sleeping at all and went back to smoking. > >But my thought is this--I have tried Zyban, the medication used to help with >withdrawl and it does work. As you may know, Zyban is Wellbutrin, the >antidepressant. It helped me alot but then I started to get this side effect of >feeling really spacey and detached from reality, so I had to discontinue it. If >it weren't for that I probably would have quit successfully. Just thought I'd >mention it just in case any of you want to try it. > >Good luck, >Sheila > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 1999 Report Share Posted January 14, 1999 In a message dated 1/13/99 2:17:58 PM Central Standard Time, Cierce@... writes: << What a very nice response, >> Jo, DITTO here! Love, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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