Re: Dopey Doctors (was Re: Me Again)

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In a message dated 1/26/00 10:00:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ottercritter@... writes:

> Do they just not teach it in medical school unless you're planning to become

> an endo? Or is it that modern doctors have become so overly reliant on

> high-priced medical testing that they have lost their ability to observe

and

> diagnose?

>

My PCP is an ARNP with outstanding listening and observational skills. She

answers my questions thoroughly and will even admit when she needs to

research an issue. I still see my endo regularly, but my PCP does most of my

bloodwork. The only rare dilemma is when the two of them give me conflicting

opinions!

Carol Teeman

T2 D/E

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Teri wrote:

<< What they teach in medical school these days is deplorably inadequate.

Our

younger son is a third-year family practice resident. When I was diagnosed,

he told me to lose weight and I wouldn't be diabetic anymore. He actually

believed that. When I mentioned it to my doc, he said that's the impression

one gets from the bit of diabetes study done in med school now.

I can guarantee you one thing -- my son no longer believes that. He has now

learned a great deal about diabetes because I keep giving him things to

read. >>

What a topsy-turvy world ... In some instances we diabetic patients seem to

be in the position of increasing the knowledge of our health care providers.

But diabetes is a disease that really demands patient knowledge and

self-care. We can't be " fixed with a pill. " It's lifetime attention to the

details and the signals our bodies send that help us get by in good shape.

Susie

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Susie,

What they teach in medical school these days is deplorably inadequate. Our

younger son is a third-year family practice resident. When I was diagnosed,

he told me to lose weight and I wouldn't be diabetic anymore. He actually

believed that. When I mentioned it to my doc, he said that's the impression

one gets from the bit of diabetes study done in med school now.

I can guarantee you one thing -- my son no longer believes that. He has now

learned a great deal about diabetes because I keep giving him things to

read.

Teri

Re: Dopey Doctors (was Re: Me Again)

>

>

> Toni Fuller wrote:

>

> << ... [my doctor] just kept saying *stick

> to a diet of mainly carbohydrates, follow that pyramid as he just kept

> piling on meds that did no good! He told me to test once a

day....fbs.....If

> we could get physicians that are *in the Know* we would all be better off!

> When I started insulin, I gained 35 pounds in two weeks! Can't get it off

> for the life of me. However, the laser has ended and all that remains is

the

> Cystoid Macular Edema ...

>

> Toni, I was hoping you would give us an update on the recovery of your

eyes

> from surgery. You have been just " chomping on the bit " to be allowed to

> become more active. Enjoy your body's new activity level!

>

> It gripes me too that the ADA keeps cranking out those Diabetes Symptoms

> charts, and yet too many doctors themselves are just clueless. I kept

going

> to my former doctor with symptoms, and wasn't diagnosed until I took it

upon

> myself to buy KetoDiastix, and discovered that my urine glucose spillage

and

> ketones were maxed out. When I presented to her with this info, she

admitted

> she did not know a thing about diabetes, and wisely advised me to seek out

> someone with more knowledge. She was very apologetic. She looked

devastated

> that day, sitting in her office with all these medical books opened to

> diabetes material, trying to cram.

>

> Do they just not teach it in medical school unless you're planning to

become

> an endo? Or is it that modern doctors have become so overly reliant on

> high-priced medical testing that they have lost their ability to observe

and

> diagnose?

>

> Susie

>

>

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Probably a little of all the above...plus the *high stress* of trying to

make all that money to keep up appearances! LOL! Mine *the former* was

trying to relieve the stress by raising show dogs! Went for an appointment

one day (had it schedules for 6 months) and the office was dark. Someone

finally appeared and I was informed that *he* would not be in because he had

gone to a dog show! So, I new I rated below the dogs! Finally they gave me

samples til he could get back to call in my meds which I was out of! Began

an earnest search for a new doc! *hugs* Toni

Re: Dopey Doctors (was Re: Me Again)

>

>

> Toni Fuller wrote:

>

> << ... [my doctor] just kept saying *stick

> to a diet of mainly carbohydrates, follow that pyramid as he just kept

> piling on meds that did no good! He told me to test once a

day....fbs.....If

> we could get physicians that are *in the Know* we would all be better off!

> When I started insulin, I gained 35 pounds in two weeks! Can't get it off

> for the life of me. However, the laser has ended and all that remains is

the

> Cystoid Macular Edema ...

>

> Toni, I was hoping you would give us an update on the recovery of your

eyes

> from surgery. You have been just " chomping on the bit " to be allowed to

> become more active. Enjoy your body's new activity level!

>

> It gripes me too that the ADA keeps cranking out those Diabetes Symptoms

> charts, and yet too many doctors themselves are just clueless. I kept

going

> to my former doctor with symptoms, and wasn't diagnosed until I took it

upon

> myself to buy KetoDiastix, and discovered that my urine glucose spillage

and

> ketones were maxed out. When I presented to her with this info, she

admitted

> she did not know a thing about diabetes, and wisely advised me to seek out

> someone with more knowledge. She was very apologetic. She looked

devastated

> that day, sitting in her office with all these medical books opened to

> diabetes material, trying to cram.

>

> Do they just not teach it in medical school unless you're planning to

become

> an endo? Or is it that modern doctors have become so overly reliant on

> high-priced medical testing that they have lost their ability to observe

and

> diagnose?

>

> Susie

>

>

> ---------------------------