Re: omentum growth/liver damage

August 24, 2007

Well, there are lots of ignorant people out there where this subject

is concerned, even amoung the doctor/Gods. I would bet people will

be in jeopardy of not having healthy place to store toxins with

omentum gone. Basically I think removing anything from body except

for an abnormal growth, should not be done unless it is diseased

beyound help.

I do believe that when liver can't handle toxins, they may be

absorbed by omentum, which gets larger on account of carrying this

load. Alcohol may play a role, in that it either decreases the

liver's ability to perform it's function or alcohol itself is toxic

to liver so aids in overwhelming liver with toxins. I really don't

know that much about alcohol related liver damage. I think alcohol

can damage liver cells, right? So damaged liver may not remove

toxins efficiently.

Interestingly when I went to Dallas Environmental Clinic to see Dr

Rae where lots of people go especially who have mcs and other toxic

problems, I noticed that their was an unusual number of very thin

people, which now included myself, and wondered this myself. Did

they not have the fat to store toxins in, was that what made

susceptible. I was only there a week, so may have just been that

one week I was there.

August 24, 2007

I think this might be considered fatty liver disease.

>

> Well, there are lots of ignorant people out there where this subject

> is concerned, even amoung the doctor/Gods.

August 24, 2007

what I'm saying is that I can see how hiy and run mycotoxins can do

their damage and maybe depending on how well the liver functions,

like being healthy and with lower amounts of exposure and depending

on how many times they go from liver to omentum and back to liver

might depend on how lonf they can be detected in the system. maybe

some are absorbed into the blood stream from the omentum with

colesteral and form plaque(granulomas) before they make it back to

the liver again? and when liver is damaged things get much worse.

what I am realizeing is that what seems to be keeping us sick are the

lesions caused by our exposure and moldspores and fragments that get

suck in those lesions that keep causeing inflamation and infections

and it seems to me that because of these lesions and the organ damage

and mucus lineing damage further exposures to even tiny amounts,

depending on severity of organ damage, can aggervate the damaged

areas causeing flair ups of inglamation/infection. and if you have

aspergilliosis it may keep these aggervated even with the best

advoidence.?

lrsions can be anywhere in the body. they may have several names

depending on how they present, and ofcorse, what ever the doctor

wants to call them when he doesn't really know.. like

cysts,polyps,mucoceles, when in tissue, granulomas when in fluids,

brain graulomas when in the brain, ect. these than can become

abscess, rumors, so keeping the inflamation/infection down is the

most important thing for us to do sence they can become cancerous.

I know from haveing 3 ct scans on my sinuses that they are not

visable enless they are swelled.

and I'm realizeing they are through out my body.

.

August 24, 2007

I just got back results of fancy 3 day stool test that said amoung

other things that I had low level of 'IgA's, which it describes as:

" the first line of defense of the GI mucosa and is central to the

normal functioning of the GI as an immune barrier. "

Well, I pretty much knew that but didn't have the scientific words to

say it!!

It was done through 'Doctor's Data', tested at Great Smokies Lab,

which is now 'Genova Diagnostics'. I also have a mild 'gamma strep'

infection and some yeast. However since I eat low carb, low or no

sugar, I do believe if I ate and drank like the average American, alot

more yeast would show up.

>

> what I'm saying is that I can see how hiy and run mycotoxins can do

> their damage and maybe depending on how well the liver functions,

> like being healthy and with lower amounts of exposure and depending

> on how

August 24, 2007

I on;y posted this because those people with digestive problems might

want to check to see if they have low IgA also...thought I should

explain.

>

> I just got back results of fancy 3 day stool test that said amoung

> other things that I had low level of 'IgA's, which it describes as:

>

August 24, 2007

That does it seem like a long time to due a culture. the stool tests we are

doing are checked 1week at 3 weeks and than at 6 weeks. Maybe this is a

different test but from what I have learned it seems that no tests come back for

any type of mycotoxins in three days.

Just what I've noticed after being poked and prodded.

KT

August 25, 2007

Oprah's doctor that goes on her show has talked about the omentum and

even showed it on the show. They were touching it. Maybe some info is

at her site. He did say it is dangerous to have a large omentum. --

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August 25, 2007

I'm sorry. a, I meant 3 days of samples sent out, so more

than the standard one day normally gotten. It took 3 weeks to get

results back. Mycotoxins were not checked for that I know of.

Yeast was checked for. I think yeast grows faster than fungus. I

don't know if fungus was checked for.

Since we got results back in 3 weeks, I guess that is as long as

they checked them.

Where do you get tests done that check them after 6 weeks? That is

very good.

>

> That does it seem like a long time to due a culture. the stool

tests we are doing are checked 1week at 3 weeks and than at 6

weeks. Maybe this is a different test but from what I have learned

it seems that no tests come back for any type of mycotoxins in three

days.

> Just what I've noticed after being poked and prodded.

> KT

>

August 25, 2007

where might I get frozen stool sample tested?

they noted high amoints of yrast but only tested for e-coli.

>

> That does it seem like a long time to due a culture. the stool tests

we are doing are checked 1week at 3 weeks and than at 6 weeks. Maybe

this is a different test but from what I have learned it seems that no

tests come back for any type of mycotoxins in three days.

> Just what I've noticed after being poked and prodded.

> KT

>

August 25, 2007

Who, This is a fascinating observation. Since finding mold in my home

& condo, I've developed all kinds of inflammations & have had a

chronically elevated Sed rate (indicates inflammation, just not

specific for where). Suddenly, I have diverticulosis, ovarian cysts,

abdominal adhesions, sleep apnea, extremely low IgG, chronic resp.

infections, generalized swelling, skin lesions & hair loss. Went to

s Hopkins a week ago, for my hair loss/skin issues, but ended up

having 2 moles removed, they think are Melanoma. Waiting for path

report. I agree exposure to mold/mycotoxins leads to inflammation,

granulomas, abscesses, fibroids, etc.

Hugs, Cheryl

August 25, 2007

Were your tests done by Great Smokies, Genova Labs or Doctor's Data

Jeanine?

> >

> > That does it seem like a long time to due a culture. the stool

tests

> we are doing are checked 1week at 3 weeks and than at 6 weeks.

August 25, 2007

http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php

Almost to very bottom of page, comprehensive stool test. They send

you tube with preservative in and you put sampel in there and shake it

up and send it back. A few tests down from there is a intestinal

permeability test I would like to have done. You drink two different

liquids to do test. There tests come back with suggestions on what to

do about results usually, or goes to doctor if he Rxed it.

>

> where might I get frozen stool sample tested?

> they noted high amoints of yrast but only tested for e-coli.

>

August 25, 2007

Cheryl,

sounds familiar. do you think your moles were cause by the mold?

because I've noticed I've been getting more freckles and moles since

exposure that I never had before. I also have an ovarian cyst so I'm

wondering now if ovarian cancer is really nothing but mold/mycotoxin

and/or chemical exposure because cysts can lead to cancer?

Dana

>

> Who, This is a fascinating observation. Since finding mold in my

home

> & condo, I've developed all kinds of inflammations & have had a

> chronically elevated Sed rate (indicates inflammation, just not

> specific for where). Suddenly, I have diverticulosis, ovarian cysts,

> abdominal adhesions, sleep apnea, extremely low IgG, chronic resp.

> infections, generalized swelling, skin lesions & hair loss. Went to

> s Hopkins a week ago, for my hair loss/skin issues, but ended up

> having 2 moles removed, they think are Melanoma. Waiting for path

> report. I agree exposure to mold/mycotoxins leads to inflammation,

> granulomas, abscesses, fibroids, etc.

> Hugs, Cheryl

>

August 26, 2007

no Barb, at the second house after I passed a glob of what I think now

was mucus lineing that was blackish and very unusual loojing I called

my doctor and he just had me go to local hosp. to give sample, it's

frozen.

> > >

> > > That does it seem like a long time to due a culture. the stool

> tests

> > we are doing are checked 1week at 3 weeks and than at 6 weeks.

>

August 26, 2007

Thanks Cheryl, just trying to make sense of ot all. these liwions can

also be refered to as sarcoids as in sarcoidosis. when horses have

sarcoidosis and present with sarcoids on their skin a wheat frass pack

is used to get rid of them. this is a herb thinking of trying if I can

find out the brand name the true kind which is grown in the winter in

kansas. its supposed to be a really good detox. you can grow it

yourself but not as good.