Re: Pathology of Trichothecene Mycotoxins A. Croft, D.V.M., Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Thanks LS, yes I'm cleaning out everything and keeping it dry, sealing

off attic which appears to be main source. No sheetrock, all

plaster. Professionals I've had here says plaster does not support

mold growth but I guess studs behind it could or dust in insulation.

Mold tests since I have taken steps to seal attic air out of house

look pretty good and house smells good...it used to have an " old house

smell " ...at least that is how other people described

it...meaning " don't worry " ...it's just old.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> Barb,

>

> You know that its extremely difficult to catch stachy when it is

sporulating,

> don't you?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, dust could def. support mold growth or simply be/contain old mold

dust..

On 8/17/07, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks LS, yes I'm cleaning out everything and keeping it dry, sealing

> off attic which appears to be main source. No sheetrock, all

> plaster. Professionals I've had here says plaster does not support

> mold growth but I guess studs behind it could or dust in insulation.

> Mold tests since I have taken steps to seal attic air out of house

> look pretty good and house smells good...it used to have an " old house

> smell " ...at least that is how other people described

> it...meaning " don't worry " ...it's just old.

>

>

[Guest guest]

plaster will and does grow mold if it's a wet spot. and if plaster

dries molds still there, just dry. there was a spot on my third floor

witch is really finished attic with dormers where a leak ran down and

would make the plaster wet, it doesnt fall out easy but this area got

a crack and after a heavy rain the last time I went in to take

pictures there was mushrooms growing out of the crack along with many

colored molds coming through the plaster. and mold dust will settle

on the keys inside the walls where plater comes through laves to key

in the olaster and hold it tight to the wall. I have heard where the

base boards can be removed and plaster cut out behind them to clean

mold/dirt/ect. that is in walls than use sheetrock to replace and put

baseboard back on to keep from guttong out plaster walls but wonder

if this would be good enough to make home liveable if this was done

after new roof and everythings dry. I cant see it working if dry dust

remain toxic and wind still blows it around in the walls and out into

liveing space. only if you can tottally stop whats in the walls from

blowing into liveing space. guess alot would depend on the house and

where leaks are and where all if has filtered too and what kind of

mold are there. a headacke no matter what. no one thong fits all in

this nightmare.

> >

> > Thanks LS, yes I'm cleaning out everything and keeping it dry,

sealing

> > off attic which appears to be main source. No sheetrock, all

> > plaster. Professionals I've had here says plaster does not support

> > mold growth but I guess studs behind it could or dust in

insulation.

> > Mold tests since I have taken steps to seal attic air out of house

> > look pretty good and house smells good...it used to have an " old

house

> > smell " ...at least that is how other people described

> > it...meaning " don't worry " ...it's just old.

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So you think that dust settles to floor behind baseboard in these old

plaster houses?? Are you referring to old house without wall

insulation??? This house was built without insulation in walls but it

was added later.

>

> plaster will and does grow mold if it's a wet spot. and if plaster

> dries molds still there, just dry. there was a spot on my third

[Guest guest]

yes, without insulation dust would settle but alot is caught by plaster

keys. cealings would keep a lot of dust too. one small spot where it

looked like the cealing got wet from the roof ledge leaking had fell

out and the keys were black dust. the cealing over my staircase would

get wet off and on however never showed any signs of mold growth but on

the day swab tests were done it was wet and tiny black spots showed

through the plaster, it was stachy. if you have blown in insulation

it's bad about growing mold and retaining moisture. it settles alot to,

I wonder if this baseboard trick would be away to remove it and have

newer more mold resistant kund put in, if there is such a thing.?

> >

> > plaster will and does grow mold if it's a wet spot. and if plaster

> > dries molds still there, just dry. there was a spot on my third

>

[Guest guest]

I thought of trying to remove wall insulation since I got a peek of

it from a wood piece gone in porch area and it was very dirty.

However a peek at it in another locations it was clean and white.

I'm getting a price for foaming entire attic floor to keep attic air

from getting down into house. Right now I have just topped off

exterior walls. If I can afford it, I will do that. If I still

don't feel good...as good as I felt last fall at Marriott, where I

was beginning to feel like my 'old self', then I will give up on my

house. It may be that I am just too immune suppressed to live in

such an old house.

>

> yes, without insulation dust would settle but alot is caught by

plaster

> keys. cealings would keep a lot of dust too. one small spot where

it

> looked like the cealing got wet from the roof ledge leaking had

fell

> out and the keys were black dust. the cealing over my staircase

would

> get wet off and on however never showed any signs of mold growth

but on

> the day swab tests were done it was wet and tiny black spots

showed

> through the plaster, it was stachy. if you have blown in

insulation

> it's bad about growing mold and retaining moisture. it settles

alot to,

> I wonder if this baseboard trick would be away to remove it and

have

> newer more mold resistant kund put in, if there is such a thing.?

>

>

[Guest guest]

P.S. I must point out I mentioned the Marriott owned place as a place

I did well at but for new readers, it had a strong chemical smell in

some areas and Angel has posted that it is not good for people with

multiple chemical sensivity. I did well there but not pleased to hear

they spray for insects so often. Despite all that I was feeling much,

much better there, so only thing I can think of is it was fairly new

place and kept clean with daily maid service etc.

>

>> exterior walls. If I can afford it, I will do that. If I still

> don't feel good...as good as I felt last fall at Marriott, where I

> was beginning to feel like my 'old self', then I will give up on my

>

[Guest guest]

It may just be that the hotel was just so much better than where I

was, than that it was great place for one's health.

Then I moved into an apartment that tested negative for mold and had

hardwood floors but was also very, very old building, like my home

and was very sick after I moved in, until I cleaned it up

thoroughly, and I mean thoroughly. Two friends helped me and we put

about 4 hours times 3 people or 12 hours into cleaning it up. I put

my Austin air filter in afterwards and was okay from then on.

Therefore I'm beginnning to think " old " may be a problem area for me

due to immune deficiency. Even if apt didn't currently have a mold

problem, as old as it was probably had plenty of old leaks still

putting off mycotoxins on the huge amount of dust hiding

everywhere.

>

> Hi Barb:

>

> I am surprised that you were able to deal with all of the VOC's

from the

> new constrution.