Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I have to agree with you Carl. Bad headline which was mine and doesn't really even reflect what article said, so I've changed it to one you probably don't agree with either but at least it really reflects the article posted. This doctor's theory is that Candida causes cancer. According to your answer you take strong exception to that also. I don't think that is likely either but I DO believe myself that all cancer is caused by a pathogen of some sort. Things that can cause cancer, like lead or fiberglass for example, could cause tissue damage that THEN makes that tissue susceptible to invasion by pathogens that then cause cancer. I do believe there is a link between cancer and pathogens and believe that anything that can damage tissue and cause inflamation can create a breeding ground for pathogens, that cause the tumors that continue to grow and spread. Now I have not studied this much AT ALL enough to claim enough knowledge to even say that with alot of confidence, just this is what I believe right now from what I know could be the case. They have discovered cervical cancer is caused by a pathogen..I believe fungus?? For a long time we all know ulcers were believed to be caused by spicy food and stress and now know that they were caused by a pathogen that just had not been discovered yet, H Pylori. Since Candida is present in system all the time, I do believe it would be 'around' MORE to infect any tissue damaged by toxins or fiberglass or other non-pathogen object causing tissue damage, such as radiation damage. I also believe that mammograms cause breast cyst or small tumor from damage that the crushing of the machine causes, then doctors go in and poke a hole in cyst or tumor which body has built a wall around to protect the body from it until the immune system can take care of the damage itself, and the hole created by biopsy spreads damaged cells throughout the body, causing breast cancer or cancer somewhere else. While breast cancer is off subject, I wanted to put that in because I think the practice of mammograms (squeezing breast so harshly and painfully - remember pain is body's way of telling you damage is being done to tissue- THEN zapping the squeezed tissue that is crying out in pain...at least mine did, when I had them..with radiation is insanity)is barbaric and ridiculous. Research has shown the most likely women to get breast cancer are women who go get mammograms regularly. Also most breast lumps that are biopsied and found benign go on to be cancerous..i.e. I believe that putting a hole in damaged tissue causes the damaged cells to spread and cause cancer if it wasn't cancer already. In other words, off topic, but be careful what doctors and medical protocol wants to do to you. It's not always in your best interest, but is always in their best interest. Your illness is their interest, not your health. (Not that they do this intentionally to give you cancer! I don't mean that. Just any studies that may show a connection I believe are not investigated because they don't CARE...and I DO mean that...they don't CARE what happens to patients, as they are not in the CARING business but in the money- making business). On the other hand, you'd think that people like Dr Croft who studies tissue would be able to tell difference between tissue damage from pathogenic fungus infection and toxins...so bottom line...don't listen to me or article...not enough is known!! If only we knew that some organization was REALLY investigating things like this for sure. --- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: > > I have to take strong exception to the claim that " Candida IS > Cancer " . There may be an association but I don't see how the two can > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I don't want to be inaccurate. Research has shown that women that have health insurance and visit the doctor regularly and have regular checkups have more breast cancer. They say in defense it is found earlier. Poorer women without insurance don't get it caught so not diagnosed or die from something else but have it, etc. I think this is lame excuse since as I say above study didn't show higher incidence of other cancer by women who have regular checkups, not a higher incidence of ovarian cancer or cervical cancer or other cancers, just breast cancer..so you'd have to be an idiot to not connect the method of checking for breast lumps, and the practice of biopsing even very small lumps, with the higher incidence of cancer. > > Research has shown the most likely women to get breast cancer are > women who go get mammograms regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 The CDC recently, I believe, added chronic infections as carcinogen and also EBV, Epstein Bar Virus, which I have had last few years but not retested for recently so don't know if I have knocked that out (sore throat which is a symptom is mostly gone though so possibly I have). However since EBV is a sign of a suppressed immune system and so is Candida they may co-exist. > > > There is a lot of research showing that cancer is actually VIRAL. CA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Barb, I have to give it to you. I bet most of us are rubbing our heads.. " That can't be right " well it isn't. As I am sure you are aware, this exact issue has been discussed frequently and there is a consensus on it . And its NOT that somehow, being poor is healthier than being 'rich' (and having health insurance that pays enough - and has low enough co-pays - so that poor women get regular checkups and tests. Just in case anyone doesn't realize it, there is a war being fought over this issue, because those tests are increasingly expensive and payers just dont like paying for them. Anymore.) Quite the opposite. Its used as an example of how deceiving statistics can be if they are not looked at carefully to find the difference between independnt and dependent variables. SO, what it turns out really matters is that having a regular source of medical care is particularly important for women, and that people who don't have a place they can go where they can take these important regular tests fall through the cracks of the healthcare system and get REALLY sick MORE FREQUENTLY.. But they also fall through the cracks and don't get listed because to get listed you have to GET CARE.. DUH... They - because of their inability to afford it - are not counted as being sick BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A DOCTOR TO WRITE THAT INFORMATION DOWN ANYWHERE ABOUT THEM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 here's a thought, maybe mamograms cause brest cabcer. I dont think hills are meant to be smashed into pancakes, it hurts and pain is meant to be a warning sign in our body. I'll never put mine through that again. even more painful when you have nerve damage. luckily new ways are now out there and hopefully those tourcher devices will be laid to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Yes, mammograms cause breast cancer! If you already have breast cancer, a mammogram will cause it to spread. Breast tissue cannot tolerate radiation, not even low levels, not to mention radiation is cumulative. I can tell you that a panel of research scientists stood before a congressional subcommittee and begged them not to approve mammograms, predicting the worst epidemic of breast cancer in medical history if mammograms were made a part of regular health maintenance. Same old story...follow the money. Most if not all of these politicians have a vested interest in the big drug companies and the medical industry. Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Sex organs are most delicate organs and most affected by radiation. I read that also. If you have to have an xray, catscan for important diagnostic reasons, so be it, but as a routine way to 'look' for something that there is no other evidence of it being there is not warranted. About 6 years ago I read a survey of women gynocologist that revealed that most of them did not get mammograms themselves. --- In , Sinkey <westoo@...> wrote: > > Yes, mammograms cause breast cancer! If you already have breast cancer, a mammogram will cause it to spread. Breast tissue cannot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 My grandmother always told me the best way to stay healthy is to stay away from doctors, offices and hospitals. Maybe not so much because of the people, the doctors themselves, but more so because of the environment and all the chemicals in the air and in the drugs that you get treated with when at the doctors office or hospital.? > > Sex organs are most delicate organs and most affected by radiation. I > read that also. If you have to have an xray, catscan for important > diagnostic reasons, so be it, but as a routine way to 'look' for > something that there is no other evidence of it being there is not > warranted. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Smart grandmother. Besides, especially nowadays, doctors are dictated by the giant pharmaceutical companies and are clueless about working with nature and promoting health. Mainstream medicine is now the leading cause of death in the USA. The American Indians used to (and still do) use sweat lodges to purify the bood stream and release toxins from the body and it works. gsgrl2000 <gsgrl2000@...> wrote: My grandmother always told me the best way to stay healthy is to stay away from doctors, offices and hospitals. Maybe not so much because of the people, the doctors themselves, but more so because of the environment and all the chemicals in the air and in the drugs that you get treated with when at the doctors office or hospital.? Recent Activity 4 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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