Re: Tapering off of 3 meds to Cytomel

[Guest guest]

OK you forgot one thing. How are you dosing it? Timing of doses is

everything wiht Cytomel, and are you on any adrenal support?

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[Guest guest]

Val,

What do you mean that dosing is everything? I have weaned off 8

grains of Thyroid S and not take 3 Cynomel upon rising and 3grains 12

hours late. I feel pretty good. Does this sound OK??

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> OK you forgot one thing. How are you dosing it? Timing of doses is

> everything wiht Cytomel, and are you on any adrenal support?

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[Guest guest]

I'm splitting the 25's and taking 12.5 first thing in the morning with

the entire grain of Armour - then taking the other 12.5 about 6 hours

later. I tried splitting the Armour into two doses, but 1/2 grain in

the morning just wasn't enough, so I started taking the entire grain

then, and added another 1/2 grain in the afternoon with the second

dose of Cytomel. I plan to drop that second dose of Armour when I

increase the Cytomel.

I take Vitamin C, Rhodiola and Rainbow Light Adreno-Build for my

adrenals. I have Isocort, but am not currently taking it.

I've had trouble falling asleep the past few nights, and my sleep is

fragmented. Will this get better? Sleep has never been an issue with

me . . . I love to sleep!

Suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I've not graphed my temps, but plan to start that this week. My sleep

issue didn't start until I began the Cytomel last Wednesday.

According to my saliva test which was done awhile ago, my nighttime

cortisol level is below range. How much do you think I should try to

take at night?

[Guest guest]

I'm confused . . .I thought that you want your cortisol levels to be

low at night so that you can go to sleep. Would taking an Isocort

pellet not keep me " awake? "

This has been a crazy week to experiment as it was Spring Break and

the kiddos were in from college and life was not on a regular

schedule! I was just fine taking 10 mcg of Cytomel, but bumping up to

25 has messed the sleep up. I've been tired in the afternoon, but not

tired come 11-12pm. I have trouble falling asleep, but when I do -

it's as if I'm not going into a deep sleep. Does that make sense? No

heart pounding. I feel fine, otherwise. My pulse has been a little

higher than normal . . . could that be the cause? '

I'll try the Isocort tonight and see what happens when I get back into

a regular routine this coming week.

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Guest guest]

> You do need it much lower at night than in the daytime but it can

still fall too low which allows the glucose to drop topo low and THAT

causes adrenaline which wakes you up feelign shaky and often wiht

heart [punding if the adrenaline is bad enough. Sometimes tking just a

tiny bot of cortiosl at bedtime stops the whole thing from escalating.

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> Val, I need some more help. Just to update, my sleep issues

resolved after getting use to the cytomel so no more problems in that

area. I tried dropping my afternoon dose of Armour (30 mg) and

increased my Cytomel by another 12.5 mcg. So, i'm currently taking 1

grain of Armour and 12.5 Cytomel at 6:30 am - 12.5 mcg of Cyomel

around 12:30 pm and another 12.5 of Cytomel around 6:00 pm. I started

graphing my temps and they're still unstable so i added isocort -

2 pellets with my morning meds; 2 with afternoon meds and I tried

taking 1 pellet at bedtime. My avg temps Wed. were 97.4 and yesterday

were 98.2 (1st day I increased Cytomel)and this morning - my AM temp

was 95.4 and I had an awful headache and very tired. BP is also up

149/97; pulse 94.

I have no idea what to do. I started sea salt two days ago. Can't

tell an immediate difference. I assume it's too early to feel the T4

leaving my system. Do I need to increase my Cytomel more quickly, or

am I having a hard time with Isocort? Also - I know how to watch the

temps, but what exactly am I looking for with pulse?

[Guest guest]

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> I would give it a couple weeks and let your body adapt to the changes

> oyu have made. Cortisol replacement is not as easy as thyroi

> dreplacement! When you raise cortils it also burne s up a bit

> morethyroid which can make you feel the true hypo you are a bit more as

> well and this may be the cause of the headaches.

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Val,

I'm doing much better, although I had to add a little more Armour back

with my afternoon Cytomel. Right now I'm taking 1 gr. Armour w/12.5

Cytomel in the morning and another grain of Armour and 25 Cytomel in

the afternoon. Felt great for a few days, but now feeling hypo again

so this morning I took the entire tablet of Cytomel (25) with my

Armour and am concerned with taking too much.

My question is regarding temps . . . as long as my afternoon temps

don't go over 98.6 - am I okay? The few times my FT3 goes over the

top of range - I never feel " hyper. " I feel exactly the same as when

I'm " hypo. " More fatigue and wanting to sleep so it's hard for me to

gauge. Just wondering if higher temps always mean overmedicated?