Guest guest Posted April 1, 1999 Report Share Posted April 1, 1999 In a message dated 99-03-30 20:12:55 EST, you write: << For some reason the stores around here aren't carrying the diet RC. I don't know why!! I've been to 5 different stores looking for them and 4 of them have regular RC but no diet and the last one didn't have RC at all. Meenie >> Here in Florida they don't seem to carry it either. I have asked WalMart to order the Diet RC Cola - the distributor is looking into whether or not they can get it here - although the gal at WalMart tells me it is available - it will take two to three weeks to find out - obviously not high on their list of priorities. Does anyone know if RC Cola has a website or an e-mail addy - I'm getting ready to blow off some steam. in Port Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 1999 Report Share Posted April 1, 1999 Find out from a store that carries RC who the distributor is and call them directly. This is what I did and they were happy to sell to me directly from the plant. They also were more than happy to check where they distributed it. I am still trying to get Super Wal Mart to start carrying it. Just keep at it. Ann S Re: Sweetners > From: clerk@... > > In a message dated 99-03-30 20:12:55 EST, you write: > > << For some reason the stores around here aren't carrying the diet RC. ( I > don't know why!! I've been to 5 different stores looking for them and 4 of > them have regular RC but no diet and the last one didn't have RC at all. > Meenie >> > > > Here in Florida they don't seem to carry it either. I have asked WalMart to > order the Diet RC Cola - the distributor is looking into whether or not they > can get it here - although the gal at WalMart tells me it is available - it > will take two to three weeks to find out - obviously not high on their list of > priorities. Does anyone know if RC Cola has a website or an e-mail addy - I'm > getting ready to blow off some steam. > > in Port Orange, FL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 1999 Report Share Posted April 1, 1999 It's everywhere in KY... (Guess because RC is made in Louisville) I can find Diet RC with Splenda everywhere I look. Now if we can get them to use Splenda in Canada Dry Ginger ale and other softdrinks <G> Obs Re: Sweetners > > > > From: clerk@... > > > > In a message dated 99-03-30 20:12:55 EST, you write: > > > > << For some reason the stores around here aren't carrying the diet RC. > ( I > > don't know why!! I've been to 5 different stores looking for them and 4 > of > > them have regular RC but no diet and the last one didn't have RC at all. > > Meenie >> > > > > > > Here in Florida they don't seem to carry it either. I have asked WalMart > to > > order the Diet RC Cola - the distributor is looking into whether or not > they > > can get it here - although the gal at WalMart tells me it is available - > it > > will take two to three weeks to find out - obviously not high on their > list of > > priorities. Does anyone know if RC Cola has a website or an e-mail addy - > I'm > > getting ready to blow off some steam. > > > > in Port Orange, FL > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Hi all - Yahoo - I finally found diet RC in my local store sweetened with Splenda. It really was good - I couldn't really tell the difference between that and diet coke. Aspartame doesn't seem to affect my BG's but I always have wondered about the other side effects " they " say it can cause - so I thought I would give the diet RC a try. Rebekah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 I know what you mean, I had alcoholics in my family too and felt the same way. I have an occasional drink, but an absolute limit and have only been tipsy a couple of times in my life. I saw too much growing up to want that lifestyle (thank God it wasn't my parents!! ) Anyway, giving up anything is hard, I know. It's probably the caffeine in the coke that we crave so much If the aspartame doesn't adversely affect you, thats wonderful I didn't think I could give it up, but I did it. And I can really tell the difference now altho I didn't then Meenie Re: Sweetners From: TheoJa@... (Theo Jana) You're right, Meenie, I feel bad when I go without my diet coke, I can't get RC diet, I have looked. Alcholism runs in my family, while young I was told that I would probably be an alcholic so I didn't take the chance. I drank coke, then diet coke. I may have addiction but for coke instead. When I changed from coke to diet, I lost ten pounds. Since I have been diagnosed with Two II Diabetes, I have lost another ten pounds. So I don't think Diet Coke is harmful for me and the doctor said it is okay. Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: ing connections and information exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 You can use lemon juice as you are using it in such a small amount that it will not affect your medications. Just think of how much acid you are getting with a grapefruit or the juice of a few in 8 oz glass. That is the problem. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 , It is not RC Cola's fault but the individual bottlers for the hold ups. Many are not producing it yet because the have an abundance of the old " Diet Rite " . Once their supply gets down they will introduce the new " Diet RC " . The main company has not control over the production as they sell licenses to others to produce the products. In addition there is actually a shortage of the sweetener because of the high demand and the new factory is not built yet. Big notice at our store at the Log Cabin display that they are out of stock due to high demand on the product and the unavailability to get the sweetener used in production. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 In a message dated 99-04-01 23:17:37 EST, you write: << You can use lemon juice as you are using it in such a small amount that it will not affect your medications. Just think of how much acid you are getting with a grapefruit or the juice of a few in 8 oz glass. That is the problem. >> Great! You had me worried there for a while - guess I hit the panic switch <G> - I should know that because the instruction was specific for Grapefruit juice because I asked about Orange juice and they told me that was OK in small amounts. And to think, 15 years ago, I was on that Grapefruit diet - before all these meds that is. Too bad! That one always worked great for me. in Port Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Ann, What is the 800 # for RC Cola? I'd sure like to call them! in Port Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 In a message dated 99-04-02 10:06:59 EST, you write: << Only reason that they say to limit our orange juice is the natural sugar is high and not that it will affect your medications. It is something in the grape fruit just alone that affects the heart medications. >> Fortunately, Bill, they told me about the grapefruit problem BEFORE I started taking most of my heart medications - which was after my angioplasties in 1995. Up to that time, I was only on diuretics and norvasc and I hadn't had grapefruit in years, anyway - again most fortunate. I had given up on the diets - found that you cannot " diet " only " eat right " . So, that's what I started doing and I sure made out better. in Port Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Bill, was it you that was talking about the methanol levels? I was surprised when visiting http://sucrolose.com and pulling up the chart with the toxicity levels - with methanol ethanol and water levels listed. How serious is the impact of methanol in sucralose? All the other literature mentions how totally safe it is - even for diabetics - but what about cancer and heart patients? inPort Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Bill, I talked to the main company for RC and they have no intention on ceasing production of Diet Rite they have simply added Diet RC in their new mix. You have to really push to get to different people to find out about it. It took me four calls to my local distributor to even get ahold of someone who knew enough about it to get the information and that only after they gave me the 800 number for the main company. Ann S Re: Sweetners > > > , > > It is not RC Cola's fault but the individual bottlers for the hold ups. Many > are not producing it yet because the have an abundance of the old " Diet > Rite " . Once their supply gets down they will introduce the new " Diet RC " . > The main company has not control over the production as they sell licenses > to others to produce the products. > > In addition there is actually a shortage of the sweetener because of the > high demand and the new factory is not built yet. Big notice at our store at > the Log Cabin display that they are out of stock due to high demand on the > product and the unavailability to get the sweetener used in production. > > > Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY > wtnewman@... > Bill@... > www.christianmerchants.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? > http://www.onelist.com > Sign up for a new email list today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 It all depends on the local regions as her in the Rochester area the bottlers in Albany are doing to drop the Diet Rite and change over to Diet RC completely. All the main company does is suggest as they sell the franchise to many other companies. In or area three major sodas are produced by the same bother. Canada Dry, RC Cola and Coke. If these were still just company stores then you would not see competing markets from on bottler. Also the President Brand of soda now contain the Splenda. It is not found everywhere as of yet due to shortages in the base products. As far as I have been able to find out it is only available in the Northeast and Great Lakes area of the country. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 I was also on the grapefruit diet many years ago and it really got me into trouble. At the time the doctors knew nothing about the problems with grapefruit and many medications. I finally stopped the diet and things changed with my health to the better. When the information came out a couple of years ago I looked back and it confirmed the problems that I had been having. Only reason that they say to limit our orange juice is the natural sugar is high and not that it will affect your medications. It is something in the grape fruit just alone that affects the heart medications. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Why does everyone want to keep bothering the manufactures. Many are now thinking that diabetics are a crazy and demanding group of people. It does not help the image to keep calling and bothering them. I products are coming out as soon as the suppliers get them made. Remember that the current plant for the Splenda is only producing less than 10% of the market anticipated. The new plant is suppose to be ready within the year and then you will see many products changing as the base material become available. Even the Canada markets are stressed right now as the product is still manufacued in the U.S. and shipped to Canada for distribution. The bakery in our town has been on backorder for it's Splendia for over three weeks now and they had been buying it bulk in Canada for a 15% premium. I will be here just give it time. It is a major change in marketing for some companies and also a major investment for many others. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Not it was not me. There must have been another Bill on here writing when I was off-line for a few days as I have been approached on this list before that I have been slamming the Splendia which I have not. As far as what it will do for heart patients as far as safety has not been answered. As soon as it is easier to get the products there is going to be a study done to compare the results of certain know heart medications and Splendia. With many products it is sometimes 5 to 10 years down the road before they can truly say they are completely safe for all occasions. That is what happened with the grapefruit and the time release nitro tablets. It is the same as currently with the side effect of Lipator (Furosemide). The medication passed all FDA requirements for safety but now there is findings that it can cause liver problems as much as Rezulin or even more often in people that are on certain heart and diabetes medications. Further testing is now going on and soon I hope an official report will be out. Till that time my doctor has pulled me off the Lipator and I know I am going to be have problems if this is not taken care of soon. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 , Where on the sucrulose site did you find this information. I don't believe it is sucralose that has the methanol ethanol but aspartame. Let me know where you located this information. Ann S Re: Sweetners > From: clerk@... > > Bill, was it you that was talking about the methanol levels? I was surprised > when visiting http://sucrolose.com and pulling up the chart with the toxicity > levels - with methanol ethanol and water levels listed. How serious is the > impact of methanol in sucralose? All the other literature mentions how > totally safe it is - even for diabetics - but what about cancer and heart > patients? > > inPort Orange, FL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Is ONElist important to you? Has it changed your life? > http://www.onelist.com > Come visit our new web site and share with us your stories > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 I have no problems at all getting it here in KY thank the Gods. It's actually becoming quite popular here too. Obs Re: Sweetners > > > , > > It is not RC Cola's fault but the individual bottlers for the hold ups. Many > are not producing it yet because the have an abundance of the old " Diet > Rite " . Once their supply gets down they will introduce the new " Diet RC " . > The main company has not control over the production as they sell licenses > to others to produce the products. > > In addition there is actually a shortage of the sweetener because of the > high demand and the new factory is not built yet. Big notice at our store at > the Log Cabin display that they are out of stock due to high demand on the > product and the unavailability to get the sweetener used in production. > > > Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY > wtnewman@... > Bill@... > www.christianmerchants.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? > http://www.onelist.com > Sign up for a new email list today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Why we are so demanding... well for one... it's something that is wonderful... we don't get that manny goodies... and when we get something good like splenda we want it and we want it now. Obs Re: Sweetners > > > Why does everyone want to keep bothering the manufactures. Many are now > thinking that diabetics are a crazy and demanding group of people. It does > not help the image to keep calling and bothering them. I products are coming > out as soon as the suppliers get them made. Remember that the current plant > for the Splenda is only producing less than 10% of the market anticipated. > The new plant is suppose to be ready within the year and then you will see > many products changing as the base material become available. Even the > Canada markets are stressed right now as the product is still manufacued in > the U.S. and shipped to Canada for distribution. The bakery in our town has > been on backorder for it's Splendia for over three weeks now and they had > been buying it bulk in Canada for a 15% premium. > > I will be here just give it time. It is a major change in marketing for some > companies and also a major investment for many others. > > > Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY > wtnewman@... > Bill@... > www.christianmerchants.com > > List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... > Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & > www.delphi.com/disaster > > wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop > Publishing > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 If we don't let the manufacturers know what we want how will they know to make the change. I don't see any difference between this and letters to senators and congressman about diabetes research. If we don't speak up we can't really expect a change. Ann S> > Re: Sweetners > > > > > > > > Why does everyone want to keep bothering the manufactures. Many are now > > thinking that diabetics are a crazy and demanding group of people. It does > > not help the image to keep calling and bothering them. I products are > coming > > out as soon as the suppliers get them made. Remember that the current > plant > > for the Splenda is only producing less than 10% of the market anticipated. > > The new plant is suppose to be ready within the year and then you will > see > > many products changing as the base material become available. Even the > > Canada markets are stressed right now as the product is still manufacued > in > > the U.S. and shipped to Canada for distribution. The bakery in our town > has > > been on backorder for it's Splendia for over three weeks now and they had > > been buying it bulk in Canada for a 15% premium. > > > > I will be here just give it time. It is a major change in marketing for > some > > companies and also a major investment for many others. > > > > > > Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY > > wtnewman@... > > Bill@... > > www.christianmerchants.com > > > > List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... > > Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & > > www.delphi.com/disaster > > > > wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop > > Publishing > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! > > http://www.onelist.com > > Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come check out our brand new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: Making the Internet intimate > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 Yes, I say speak up with letters and other fax messages but do not keep using their 800 lines. These are actually for the salesperson to call in orders and the call may not cost you anything but it sure costs the company money. I work on web site development and hosting for two medical companies and that is the thing I hear about the most. It is the people that hear a new product is coming out and they get 200 or more calls a day asking why it is taking so long to deliver it. When you are talking about a national distribution it is going to take a few months to get everywhere. Even the phone calls are not going to speed that up. Actually the calls can aggregate some people and slow things down. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 Available in Arkansas Ann S Re: Sweetners > > > It all depends on the local regions as her in the Rochester area the > bottlers in Albany are doing to drop the Diet Rite and change over to Diet > RC completely. All the main company does is suggest as they sell the > franchise to many other companies. In or area three major sodas are produced > by the same bother. Canada Dry, RC Cola and Coke. If these were still just > company stores then you would not see competing markets from on bottler. > > Also the President Brand of soda now contain the Splenda. It is not found > everywhere as of yet due to shortages in the base products. As far as I have > been able to find out it is only available in the Northeast and Great Lakes > area of the country. > > > Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY > wtnewman@... > Bill@... > www.christianmerchants.com > > List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... > Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & > www.delphi.com/disaster > > wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop > Publishing > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come check out our brand new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: Making the Internet intimate > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 It affects my bp med too... Verapamil shouldn't be taken within 2 hours of eating grapefruit. Meenie Re: Sweetners > > >I was also on the grapefruit diet many years ago and it really got me into >trouble. At the time the doctors knew nothing about the problems with >grapefruit and many medications. I finally stopped the diet and things >changed with my health to the better. When the information came out a couple >of years ago I looked back and it confirmed the problems that I had been >having. > >Only reason that they say to limit our orange juice is the natural sugar is >high and not that it will affect your medications. It is something in the >grape fruit just alone that affects the heart medications. > > >Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY >wtnewman@... >Bill@... >www.christianmerchants.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Come check out our brand new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: Making the Internet intimate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1999 Report Share Posted April 3, 1999 Thanks for the response, Bill. I wish I knew who had said that though - because I am interested in getting that clarified. Glad you mentioned that about the Lipator - just in case one of my doctors every tries to put me on that! They're pretty cautious, but nonetheless I am always double-checking my prescriptions book just to make sure that they never slip up. I can't take most of the pill form of diabetic medicines because of this that or thie other thing. And just yesterday, the drug store sent me the wrong insulin which now has to be returned. Like I said in an earlier post to this list - I don't think that enough testing will ever be done on any of the things we ingest because of the fact that we each of deal with things differently - there will always be that one person out there that has a problem with a certain medication or food or whatever. We just all have to watch out for ourselves, listen to what others have to say and incorporate that into what we already know to be true about ourselves and go on from there. And, for the record, Bill, I agree with you about your first post this AM. We all need to be more sensitive to each other's special problems. What's sauce for the goose is not always good for the gander. We all need to be masters of our own souls so to speak and be as well-informed about our own bodies and how each of us react to certain medications, foods, etc. It is unfair to judge or impose on another the standards which we have to impose on our own selves. Each body is unique and what works for one sometimes does not work for another. To Each His Own! Let's be fair, people - we are here to help on another, not to put someone down for what they believe to be true and what works for their own body. If we could all use the same products, there would probably be cures for everything we are all dealing with and no need for additional research - it would be Utopia - but we do not live in a Utopian society - not to mention the fact that by putting someone down for their beliefs in some cases will inhibit free thought and their willingnss to participate in this great forum. Now, flame me if you will, but I have a very quick finger that just loves to hit the delete key. My apologies, - I hope I didn't fan the fire too much. in Port Orange, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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