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a,

Are you serious?

Carl, what is your take on this?

Have you ever heard of this happening before?

On 9/21/07, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

>

> Throwing this out there,

> We got test results saying there were 8 colonies in one room.

> They didn't say what the molds were but the diffirent colors like;

> Blue green

> Tan

> Olive green

> fuzzy white

> yellow

> Any clue?

> For reasons I can't dicuss on line I can not go back and discuss with the

> tester,

> Thanking you in advance

> KT

>

>

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Yes,

As of last Tuesaday that office closed so I can't any info.

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

a,

Are you serious?

Carl, what is your take on this?

Have you ever heard of this happening before?

On 9/21/07, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

>

> Throwing this out there,

> We got test results saying there were 8 colonies in one room.

> They didn't say what the molds were but the diffirent colors like;

> Blue green

> Tan

> Olive green

> fuzzy white

> yellow

> Any clue?

> For reasons I can't dicuss on line I can not go back and discuss with the

> tester,

> Thanking you in advance

> KT

>

>

>

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a,

Trying to tell what type of mold it is by the color is useless. You

can have the same mold various different colors depending on the

substrate that it is feeding on.

Hopefully this company did not charge you an arm and a leg, because

if this is the type of " report " that they give. they in my opinion,

are nothing more than scam artists. No wonder their office closed.

Sharon

>

> Throwing this out there,

> We got test results saying there were 8 colonies in one room.

> They didn't say what the molds were but the diffirent colors

like;

> Blue green

> Tan

> Olive green

> fuzzy white

> yellow

> Any clue?

> For reasons I can't dicuss on line I can not go back and discuss

with the tester,

> Thanking you in advance

> KT

>

>

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It is strange that they use colors. Stachybotryus can be black or

white from what I know, my stachy was white powder.

>

> Yes,

> As of last Tuesaday that office closed so I can't any info.

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Only from those without a credible information source or who have

been misinformed. From a lab it's inexcusable, especially if their

paper work or Web site claims the lab is accredited through

EMLAP/EMPAT, A2LA or equivalent.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> a,

>

> Are you serious?

>

> Carl, what is your take on this?

> Have you ever heard of this happening before?

>

> On 9/21/07, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

> >

> > Throwing this out there,

> > We got test results saying there were 8 colonies in one room.

> > They didn't say what the molds were but the diffirent colors like;

> > Blue green

> > Tan

> > Olive green

> > fuzzy white

> > yellow

> > Any clue?

> > For reasons I can't dicuss on line I can not go back and discuss with the

> > tester,

> > Thanking you in advance

> > KT

> >

>

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a,

I have spoken about this (in the past) with two people who are professional

mycologists specializing in mold identification, i.e. who do it for a

living, and do it well, and they both told me that " impossible " is an

appropriate word to use to any people who claim that they can tell what

species mold is growing on a surface from visual inspection with the naked

eye. Its impossible.

They can't. Even the pros can't. Pros use all kinds of specialized equipment

and technologies. They use high powered microscopes and DNA analysis

techniques. Things like that.

Also, one patch of mold that looks one color is often many different kinds

of mold growing together. Sometimes, like in a petri dish that has only had

a few spores germinate, the individual zones of color are one kind of mold..

one colony, but in water damaged buildings, especially when they have been

wet for a while its almost never one 'colony' of all the same kind of mold..

The wetter it is somewhere, the more variety you might see there.. kind of

like the Amazon jungle.. (wetter = more diversity)

Thats why a building that has been wet for long periods at times is like a

chemical factory where they have made lots of different kinds of chemicals

that are all designed to kill other living things.. (thats why molds make

toxins, to eliminate the competition, the more water, the more competition)

To use an analogy, its not like Russian roulette where you spin the barrel

and one out of six times you get shot, its more like being in a rapidly

burning room in an armaments factory where they have stored bullets, bombs

and rockets.. the chances of even (much) more than one hitting you is very

high..

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a: This is what I was trying to convey to you yesterday over the phone.

The levels of various colored molds are conceptually important, but the colors

do not mean much without direct laboratory analysis microscopically. I or no one

can definitely tell you what molds you have been exposed to unless they are

specifically observed by a trained professional in microbiology (I.E.,

mycology/medical mycology). Levels of fungal infestations are basically

important once it has been determined as to what species of micro fungi one is

being exposed to. From there, the most important bio-confirmation pertaining to

molds and human exposures is in my opinion, mycotoxins and/or specific

colonization (i.e., genetic and confirmation of specific species/mycotoxin

release). Genetic confirmation is here to stay, however it is also in its

infancy in regard to analysis related to Medical Mycology.

I apologize for the background noise that you may have heard over the phone

while speaking with me.

Hope this is helpful to you.

Doug Haney

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