Re: OT:NIH grant funds study on language of pain

[Guest guest]

You sent the following inquiry:

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Name: Sharon Kramer

Email: Snk1955@...

Subject: Study on Language of Pain

Comments:

This study concerns me as possibly being dangerous in that it may attribute

psychological implications that are not there when a patient is attempting to

describe pain. It seems to imply there are code words that physicians

should interpret to mean more that what they really are.

As an example, the word " Miserable " does not translate to " Depression " .

Depression is a diagnoses that is psychological. Miserable is a description of

a terribly uncomfortable pain.

The ramifications of diagnosing one, who is already terribly uncomfortable,

as also suffering from a psychological impairment of depression can, and

often does, add further and undue misery from the misinterpretation of

terminology.

Not all words mean the same thing to all people. What is miserable for one,

is not miserable for another. The implications and ramifications of this

study could be far rearching and harmful to the public when a group of

physicians and researchers are charged with redefining the English language as

they

see fit to interpret.

A better approach may be to provide physicians with a Webster's dictionary

to look up the meaning of the words that patients are using and then ask

questions - rather than allowing a study to determine new, novel and

potentially

misapplied definition of words.

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[Guest guest]

so true.

ruff draft of something I started writeing the other day.

sadness vs depression(a brain responce/disfunction

I cant stress enough how different these are and how bad it is to

lump these together. they are not the same at all.

I've been very sad over losses before, they never caused depression.

only my mold exposure caused depression and it was uncontrolable,

with mood swings where I might laugh one minute and cry the next. no

control at all.

now with chemical sensativity it has become so clear to me that

toxins cause mood disorders, a brain responce to toxin exposure. and

different exposures can cause different mood swings, sometimes I dont

even smell what it is getting to me but I know that change in mood

can be the fist sign that I was exposed to something and other

effects follow.

it really bothers me that people have a loss and sadness from it and

instead of letting it take its corse they run to a shrink who gives

them very dangerous drugs. how many end up with problems because of

the drug?

I was dignosed with post stress syndrome because of my exposure to

high amounts of several toxic molds. it slowly got better after I got

out of the moldy environment but didn't resolve until I realized I

had chemical intolerance in that I was still renting moldy apartments

and found one without a mold growth problem where I could start

practiceing advoidance. I also had to rid my liveing space of all

things that caused reactions like perfume products,cleaning

producrs,ect.

I now no longer have uncontroled mood swings caused from uncontrolable

brain responces from chemical/toxin insults.

I read and hear sad things everyday that make me sad but it doesn't

cause depression or uncontrolable mood swings. only when I leave my

liveing space and venture into the outside world full of mold and

toxins do I suffer these affects or if someone comes over and forgets

and wears perfumes.

sadness from loss and the grieving period we go through has nothing

to do with depression caused by exposures to toxins and I really wish

this would be reconized.

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> You sent the following inquiry:

> -----------------

> Name: Sharon Kramer

> Email: Snk1955@...

> Subject: Study on Language of Pain

>

> Comments:

> This study concerns me as possibly being dangerous in that it may

attribute

> psychological implications that are not there when a patient is

attempting to

> describe pain.

[Guest guest]

Bravo Sharon....

My thoughts exactly!

> This study concerns me as possibly being dangerous

[Guest guest]

woops, I had something on my mind here but got sidetracked. I bent

over wrong and reinjured my old back injury from work. the one that

my doctor blamed all those symptoms in all thise years. funny

becaises its the same pain I had from it 4 months before my mold

exposure started and I dont have all those other symptoms,that were

really from the mold. grrr, what am I felling? pain in my left hip

and sore swollen muscles in that area that yes,hurts. and ANGER

because I knew when my mold exposure started that those symptoms were

sererate from my back injury and told my doctor that in the beginning

but because he didn't know enough to know that they were signs of

mold exposure my mold case is more complacated because my than

depression from mold exposure in the first home got blamed on my back

injury instead, so did my dieerhia with blood even though not one

single doctor I went to through all that bs could say why. right in

my medical records it shows where I told him I had a bad taste in my

mouth like dirt and was brushing my teeth alot. dead blood cells in

my urine,ect. am I depressed, no I'm pissed about the pain I suffered

all those years while I was getting misdiagnosed and the amount of

pain I was haveing wasn't even getting realized. a hudge problem I

see in the medical field is that doctors tend to think that only one

thing can be going on with you at one time.I got two seperate things

going on here. my back injury just flares up sometimes when I bend

wrong, the back pain I had from mold exposure goes along with other

symptoms. I think it's called " listening to the patientwoops, I had

something on my mind here but got sidetracked. I bent over wrong and

reinjured my old back injury from work. the one that my doctor blamed

all those symptoms in all thise years. funny becaises its the same

pain I had from it 4 months before my mold exposure started and I

dont have all those other symptoms,that were really from the mold.

grrr, what am I felling? pain in my left hip and sore swollen muscles

in that area that yes,hurts. and ANGER because I knew when my mold

exposure started that those symptoms were sererate from my back

injury and told my doctor that in the beginning but because he didn't

know enough to know that they were signs of mold exposure my mold

case is more complacated because my than depression from mold

exposure in the first home got blamed on my back injury instead, so

did my dieerhia with blood even though not one single doctor I went

to through all that bs could say why. right in my medical records it

shows where I told him I had a bad taste in my mouth like dirt and

was brushing my teeth alot. dead blood cells in my urine,ect. am I

depressed, no I'm pissed about the pain I suffered all those years

while I was getting misdiagnosed and the amount of pain I was haveing

wasn't even getting realized. a hudge problem I see in the medical

field is that doctors tend to think that only one thing can be going

on with you at one time.I got two seperate things going on here. my

back injury just flares up sometimes when I bend wrong, the back pain

I had from mold exposure goes along with other symptoms. I think it's

called " listening to the patient

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> > You sent the following inquiry:

> > -----------------

> > Name: Sharon Kramer

> > Email: Snk1955@

> > Subject: Study on Language of Pain

> >

> > Comments:

> > This study concerns me as possibly being dangerous in that it may

> attribute

> > psychological implications that are not there when a patient is

> attempting to

> > describe pain.

>