Guest guest Posted March 10, 1999 Report Share Posted March 10, 1999 Mike (MCS) wrote: While fire departments and EMS services in rural areas may not like it, here's how it really breaks down:Fighting fires, in and of itself, does NOT require education much past junior high. It requires physical strength, endurance, discipline and good instincts. Officers need to have solid writing skills to document incidents as these are legal documents.Being in command of a fire scene requires experience, and education helps when it comes to communication, organization and team dynamics.ECA and EMT-Basic, in and of themselves, require solid writing skills to document patient contacts (or lack thereof). You have no other record other than this, so understanding how to write competently is a must. Whether or not this involves college is an arbitrary decision, and is better determined by the education you received before deciding about college.EMT-Intermediate and EMT-Paramedic require advanced knowledge of mathematics (the math itself is high school level, but you've got to be familiar enough with it to do it in your head), more concrete documentation skills (as there is more to document) and significantly stronger A & P knowledge. I'm finding that things I learned in my college-level (ONLY) biology courses are of IMMENSE value to my understanding of my patient. Often, I can educate non-collegiate field medics on the backgrounds of certain terms, conditions, etc. that while they are used to TREATING, they are not knowledgable enough to EVALUATE to a deep A & P level and be able to instinctively expect certain physiological/pathophysiological reactions.Licensure, while certainly prohibitive to rural services where there is a smaller base of people to volunteer and a smaller base of people who have attended college (as most collegiate level jobs are in metropolitan areas), may have to accept the fact that intermediate-level care is the best they can provide, OR, will have to have medical directors willing to train them in skills and medications ABOVE AND BEYOND state criteria, taking on the responsibility and liability themselves, and personally guaranteeing that their staff can perform to their own protocol levels.My $.02.Mike -----Original Message----- From: & Zimmerman Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 14:02 To: Texas EMS ListServer Subject: [texasems-L] Licensure Hello all, It seems to me that I am probably going to stir up some animosity here, but is there anyone out there who thinks that licensure is a watered-down attempt to appease the masses? I have heard arguments on this server for both more pay and for complacency in seeking more pay, etc. for licensure. I think that now is the time for all of us, as a profession to step up and demand change first from ourselves, not our employers, public or private. We cannot truly be seen as a profession like doctors, nurses, RT's etc., until we set our standards of training and education higher. For example, require that there be college prerequisites such as English, math, chemistry, and certain biology courses during EMT and before Paramedic school. Perhaps make Paramedic an associate degree minimum like ADN programs. As both a field medic and an instructor in a large program, I am sometimes appalled at the education level of students and graduates alike. I also realize that the fire service and the rural EMS communities will not like this solution because of the cost factor. I would like to hear any comments on this subject, and please realize that this is just a suggestion, not an etched-in-stone belief. E. Zimmerman, FF/LP Internet FileZone: Always FREE! Instantly store & access your valuable PC files on the net, from any Web browser. SIGN UP NOW - http://offers./click/235/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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