Re: Mold declared gone at Oxnard hospital

[Guest guest]

> That means the mold entombed in the hospital's walls was killed,

Murray said.

They said that there were no patient complaints about mold so WHO WERE THE

COMPLAINTS COMING FROM?

The tradeoff when they use things like chlorine dioxide to 'kill' mold is

that once the mold is dead and cell walls are disrupted some of these

chemicals may act to liberate from and *accelerate* the release of toxins

from them.

It probably doesn't effect the allergenicity from mold either. And the mold

would probably still cause allergic sensitization to it.

Straus, , et al, showed that chlorine dioxide doesn't destroy

mycotoxins at all, so it wouldn't probably make the mold in the walls any

safer in those respects either, (although the gas would have killed most or

maybe even all existing *viable spores* that would cause mycotic

colonization of immunosuppressed patients, one of the big worries in

hospitals.)

New mold would not grow unless there was new moisture, condensation, leaks,

etc. Did they change whatever conditions caused it to grow originally?

[Guest guest]

I finished the article pretty terrified - there was a reference in it to the

water leaks remaining un-repaired and someone saying, essentially, nevermind the

water, we've killed the mold. But of course if you still got wet, where ever

that mold came from last time it will come from again...

~Haley

[Guest guest]

> Workers on scaffolding covered by huge plastic sheets continue to

apply a waterproof coating to four stories of the hospital's

exterior. They're sealing windows and replacing showers. The work

could continue through May.

Old buildings like hospitals need to be maintained aggressively, which in

the case of a hospital really should include regularly scheduled moisture

control work on any problem areas and additional insulation and ventilation

for any ares where condensation might be a problem.

> Murray said the costs of repairs and replacements is miniscule

compared with savings realized by fumigating the hospital instead of

fighting the mold in a piecemeal approach that would have taken

several years.

I don't know how much money they spent on the Giuliani company, but if it

was a lot, it seems like that money would probably have been better spent on

more maintenance and put towards a 'new building fund'.

That money would probably mostly go to overtime for existing unionized

employees, and things like new paint and building materials, and it isn't

glamorous and new and flashy. Helping unionized workers feed their families

wouldn't earn them political brownie points either, like it would have in

the past.

I wonder what will happen to employees there who complain about mold now? If

large mats of hidden stachybotrys mold were killed, I think that could cause

issues in the future which could effect health care there quite a bit, but

that would not show up in spore testing.