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>Because the Atkins diet does not subscribe fat intake, those who are

>using it should read this little article, published by the American

>Medical Association:

>

> " Maintaining a healthy weight can significantly reduce your

>risk of

> type II diabetes. (There is no known way to prevent the

>other form

> of the disease--type I diabetes.) For people who are

>diagnosed with

> type II diabetes, weight loss is often the first treatment

>that doctors

> recommend.

Weight loss dieting does NOT work - it has a 95-98% failure rate and

most people who lose weight gain it back plus some. Yo-yo dieting causes

more problems than not dieting. Following a " diabetic diet " , exercising

and taking your meds is much more important than worrying about what the

number on the scale says.

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>I lost 25 pounds and I have my BG's under control without meds by

reducing

>my fat intake, my carb intake, eating high fiber foods, and excising. I

am

>not using any special diet, just common sense.

That's great for you, but not effective for everyone.

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You obviously havent read the Atkins book.

But even more compelling are the people who are on Atkins and, THROUGH their

DOCTORS , have shown their cholesterol levels have dropped significantly, their

weight has dropped significantly, their energy has risen significantly, and if

they are diabetic, their bg's are significantly better.

This isn't a diet for everyone, if you are having kidney problems or heart

problems you shouldnt attempt it without guidance from your doctor (it can be

modified).

I've lost 16 lbs and my bg's are running 85 - 130 (were running 180 to 200)

I am not taking any diabetes medications. I do take high blood pressure med

which has been reduced since being on this WOE.

Meenie

fat intake

Because the Atkins diet does not subscribe fat intake, those who are using

it should read this little article, published by the American Medical

Association:

" Maintaining a healthy weight can significantly reduce your risk

of

type II diabetes. (There is no known way to prevent the other

form

of the disease--type I diabetes.) For people who are diagnosed

with

type II diabetes, weight loss is often the first treatment that

doctors

recommend.

" Because heart attacks are the leading cause of death in people

who

have diabetes, doctors recommend that people with the disease

reduce their fat intake. If you are diagnosed with either form

of

diabetes, your doctor (often working with a dietitian) will

design a

meal plan to fit your needs. Carefully following your

recommended

eating program can help you control the level of sugar in your

blood

and reduce your risk of long-term complications. "

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I lost 25 pounds and I have my BG's under control without meds by reducing

my fat intake, my carb intake, eating high fiber foods, and excising. I am

not using any special diet, just common sense. One common sense item for me

is the low fat portion of my eating program (I even try to shy away from

using the word " diet " , when I think about it, because it seems to have

negative connotations for me). I went to a lecture with a top diabetes

specialist the other night at the local medical association meeting, and he

was very skeptical of the Atkins diet, as were the other doctors there, by

the way.

Ms Rosie wrote:

>

>

> >Because the Atkins diet does not subscribe fat intake, those who are

> >using it should read this little article, published by the American

> >Medical Association:

> >

> > " Maintaining a healthy weight can significantly reduce your

> >risk of

> > type II diabetes. (There is no known way to prevent the

> >other form

> > of the disease--type I diabetes.) For people who are

> >diagnosed with

> > type II diabetes, weight loss is often the first treatment

> >that doctors

> > recommend.

>

> Weight loss dieting does NOT work - it has a 95-98% failure rate and

> most people who lose weight gain it back plus some. Yo-yo dieting causes

> more problems than not dieting. Following a " diabetic diet " , exercising

> and taking your meds is much more important than worrying about what the

> number on the scale says.

>

> Rosie

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I am reading Dr. Atkin's book. He sounds very convincing. All that fat is

alarming though. With the little experimenting I've done, the fat does seem

to keep my bg low and not raise my weight. A RD gave a talk to our local

diabetes support group. She said you need some fat in your diet and

recommended anyone eating peanut butter not buy the low fat kind

(manufacturers have to substitute something for fat and sugar is a cheap

alternative). She advised going easy on the carbs and said that diets fail

because people tire of them. She stressed common sense and eating a variety

of foods, and keeping track of which carbs cause your bg to rise. My sister

sent me some grapefruit and oranges from FL. So far the orange half I ate

caused a big surge and the grapefruit was fine. I wonder why.

I am watching my carbs, cutting back on fruit to 1/day, trying to have 2

salads a day and generally following Dr. Chuck's diet (on the web). So far

so good.

Lately there has been a lot of discussion about Dr. D'Adamo's blood

type diet. My daughter is type O and really likes it. I am type A and my

husband is type O. D'Adamo says the type A diet is vegetarian and type A

people are prone for diabetes. Are most of you type A? I'm curious.

Pat

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I'm type A+

As to Dr Atkins, I was surprised to discover on Dietwatch that my caloric

intake was only about 1600 cal a day on atkins. I thought it would be much

higher ... but after you are on his diet a few days your appetite levels

off , you don't have the cravings you did before and you just don't eat as

much... without feeling like you are missing anything and certainly without

as much junkie stuff . You are comfortable in the knowledge that if you are

hungry you can eat unlike so many other " diets " where you have to go long

periods of time with nothing other than a celery stick.

Meenie

PS... maybe that orange pushed your bg's higher than the grapefruit because

it's sweeter? Did you have anything else with the orange or grapefruit?

>

>

>I am reading Dr. Atkin's book. He sounds very convincing. All that fat is

>alarming though. With the little experimenting I've done, the fat does seem

>to keep my bg low and not raise my weight. A RD gave a talk to our local

>diabetes support group. She said you need some fat in your diet and

>recommended anyone eating peanut butter not buy the low fat kind

>(manufacturers have to substitute something for fat and sugar is a cheap

>alternative). She advised going easy on the carbs and said that diets fail

>because people tire of them. She stressed common sense and eating a variety

>of foods, and keeping track of which carbs cause your bg to rise. My sister

>sent me some grapefruit and oranges from FL. So far the orange half I ate

>caused a big surge and the grapefruit was fine. I wonder why.

>

>I am watching my carbs, cutting back on fruit to 1/day, trying to have 2

>salads a day and generally following Dr. Chuck's diet (on the web). So far

>so good.

>

>Lately there has been a lot of discussion about Dr. D'Adamo's blood

>type diet. My daughter is type O and really likes it. I am type A and my

>husband is type O. D'Adamo says the type A diet is vegetarian and type A

>people are prone for diabetes. Are most of you type A? I'm curious.

>

>Pat

>

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And there are many doctors and RD's who aren't skeptical of Atkins or low

carb. It's " old school " vs " New school " . The medical community is always

slow to accept changes. I know. I work there.

Meenie

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>

>I lost 25 pounds and I have my BG's under control without meds by reducing

>my fat intake, my carb intake, eating high fiber foods, and excising. I am

>not using any special diet, just common sense. One common sense item for me

>is the low fat portion of my eating program (I even try to shy away from

>using the word " diet " , when I think about it, because it seems to have

>negative connotations for me). I went to a lecture with a top diabetes

>specialist the other night at the local medical association meeting, and he

>was very skeptical of the Atkins diet, as were the other doctors there, by

>the way.

>

>Ms Rosie wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> >Because the Atkins diet does not subscribe fat intake, those who are

>> >using it should read this little article, published by the American

>> >Medical Association:

>> >

>> > " Maintaining a healthy weight can significantly reduce your

>> >risk of

>> > type II diabetes. (There is no known way to prevent the

>> >other form

>> > of the disease--type I diabetes.) For people who are

>> >diagnosed with

>> > type II diabetes, weight loss is often the first treatment

>> >that doctors

>> > recommend.

>>

>> Weight loss dieting does NOT work - it has a 95-98% failure rate and

>> most people who lose weight gain it back plus some. Yo-yo dieting causes

>> more problems than not dieting. Following a " diabetic diet " , exercising

>> and taking your meds is much more important than worrying about what the

>> number on the scale says.

>>

>> Rosie

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I am glad that you added the part about using the diet and heart disease. If

you have some forms of heart disease the diet is too low and can cause some

major problems with heart rythem. I was on it for 3 months about 4 years ago

and ended up in hospital for 20 days while they got my body back in balance.

It is a good diet for some people but not for everyone.

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In a message dated 99-03-22 11:40:10 EST, you write:

<< I am glad that you added the part about using the diet and heart disease.

If

you have some forms of heart disease the diet is too low and can cause some

major problems with heart rythem. I was on it for 3 months about 4 years ago

and ended up in hospital for 20 days while they got my body back in balance.

It is a good diet for some people but not for everyone.

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Sorry about that first send - it got away from me - again! - Bill makes a

good point. I think every diet needs to be monitored by your doctor. I have

a weird little quirk with my heart problems. There is something in my system

that drains the potassium - so I have to take 20 meq twice a day in order to

just maintain. My dad has the same problem. Sure causes havoc with the

electrolytes -

in Port Orange, FL

<< I am glad that you added the part about using the diet and heart disease.

If

you have some forms of heart disease the diet is too low and can cause some

major problems with heart rythem. I was on it for 3 months about 4 years ago

and ended up in hospital for 20 days while they got my body back in balance.

It is a good diet for some people but not for everyone. >>

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Pat - I just talked yesterday with my sister about that body type diet - Type

A - T - P etc. and after hearing all the info I think I was an A. Interesting

that they say those types are prone to diabetes. Rebekah

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