Re: My 'story' regarding physical pain, discomfort and loss.

[Guest guest]

Please elaborate.

Am 28.10.2006 um 04:21 schrieb Vivian Barning:

> one of the basics of The Work is we don't Should on ourselves or

> others.

>

> Vivian

> My 'story' regarding physical pain,

> discomfort and loss.

>

>

> In my experience,

> first and most importnt apsect in

> doing 'work' is:

>

> - I " should " be having EXACTLY same thought

> that I am having now!

>

> - I " should " feel EXACTLY same way that

> I feel Right Now!

>

> Only when I first FULLY accept the thoughts

> and feelings that I have right now - I get

> to really " see " them!

>

> Only when I really " see " my thoughts and feelings -

> I can really examine their truth!

>

> In my expereince, whenenever I start with

> 'I " shouldn't " have this thought' or

> 'I " shouldn't " feel this way' or

> 'It is 'bad' to feel this way'...

>

> I fail - I fail even to start!

>

> Whenever, I start *work* with the 'goal'

> to 'desire' to 'escape', 'leave'

> or 'hide away from' what I feel - I fail!

>

> I suceed only when I start with FULL Acceptance

> of 'what I think', 'how I feel' and then I

> simply examine the truth of 'what I think'...

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

essentially we simply avoid using the word should. We don't tell others what

to do or how to run their lives because we can't know what is best for

someone else.

Vivian

My 'story' regarding physical pain,

>> discomfort and loss.

>>

>>

>> In my experience,

>> first and most importnt apsect in

>> doing 'work' is:

>>

>> - I " should " be having EXACTLY same thought

>> that I am having now!

>>

>> - I " should " feel EXACTLY same way that

>> I feel Right Now!

>>

>> Only when I first FULLY accept the thoughts

>> and feelings that I have right now - I get

>> to really " see " them!

>>

>> Only when I really " see " my thoughts and feelings -

>> I can really examine their truth!

>>

>> In my expereince, whenenever I start with

>> 'I " shouldn't " have this thought' or

>> 'I " shouldn't " feel this way' or

>> 'It is 'bad' to feel this way'...

>>

>> I fail - I fail even to start!

>>

>> Whenever, I start *work* with the 'goal'

>> to 'desire' to 'escape', 'leave'

>> or 'hide away from' what I feel - I fail!

>>

>> I suceed only when I start with FULL Acceptance

>> of 'what I think', 'how I feel' and then I

>> simply examine the truth of 'what I think'...

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Well, that's the place you get with the turnaround, isn't it?

First, I put down my judgements, my " should " s

then I come to see they are not true.

And, as I understood adithya, he was talking about: " what is, is " .

The thought I am having now, is " what is " . And " what is " , is what

" should be " .

True, I can't know what's best for someone else. And to come to see

that, I have the work.

I can tell myself what you are telling me, but it won't be genuine.

It's not " knowledge " : I think I know it, but I still don't believe

it, because I have proofs against it.

Love,

Am 28.10.2006 um 23:09 schrieb Vivian Barning:

> essentially we simply avoid using the word should. We don't tell

> others what

> to do or how to run their lives because we can't know what is best for

> someone else.

>

> Vivian

> My 'story' regarding physical pain,

>>> discomfort and loss.

>>>

>>>

>>> In my experience,

>>> first and most importnt apsect in

>>> doing 'work' is:

>>>

>>> - I " should " be having EXACTLY same thought

>>> that I am having now!

>>>

>>> - I " should " feel EXACTLY same way that

>>> I feel Right Now!

>>>

>>> Only when I first FULLY accept the thoughts

>>> and feelings that I have right now - I get

>>> to really " see " them!

>>>

>>> Only when I really " see " my thoughts and feelings -

>>> I can really examine their truth!

>>>

>>> In my expereince, whenenever I start with

>>> 'I " shouldn't " have this thought' or

>>> 'I " shouldn't " feel this way' or

>>> 'It is 'bad' to feel this way'...

>>>

>>> I fail - I fail even to start!

>>>

>>> Whenever, I start *work* with the 'goal'

>>> to 'desire' to 'escape', 'leave'

>>> or 'hide away from' what I feel - I fail!

>>>

>>> I suceed only when I start with FULL Acceptance

>>> of 'what I think', 'how I feel' and then I

>>> simply examine the truth of 'what I think'...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>