Re: Is mold in your body the same as external exposure?

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

There are several answers to your question.

1. Mold, bacteria and other micro-organisms in the body outnumber the

total number of cells in the body ten to one. The vast majority,

obviously, are necessary (or neutral) or we'd all be dead.

2. All these organisms, including the " bad " ones are pretty much

everywhere. But they don't grow and thrive until they find an

environment that supports them. That is why " mold " is not found

growing in dry spaces and why strepthroat bacteria are not found in

damp buildings but are in certain locations of " damp " bodies (alive).

3. Mold can cause (or are associated with) more than just allergies

and respiratory symtpoms. Although still considered controversial by

most authorities, victims understand this all too well.

4. Mold growth generates more than spores (seeds). The total biomass

of mold growth is more like a garden than scattered seeds. As the

" plant " of mold dries and fragments it usually gets blown around like

leaves in autumn.

5. Mold growth generates molecular sized components (chemicals) such

as enzymes, mycotoxins and Volatile Organic Compounds that are

thousands of times smaller than particles like spores and fragments.

They are approximately the same size as air molecules and therefore

cannot be filtered like particles are by HEPA media. Charcoal helps

but is not very effective.

6. , MD has identified 10 body systems that can be

affected by chemical exposure. Her QEESI evaluation form will soon be

on-line at: http://familymed.uthscsa.edu/qeesi.pdf You can also

search on " QEESI " for more information.

7. Sensitization to one type of mold can also result in sensitzation

to others. But considering there are over a million species of fungi

and they are everywhere, makes it less likely that we become

sensitized to ALL molds. Maybe many, but not all. The sensitization

can also be to some of the components of mold (see above) including

the chemical ones, which makes us more reactive to chemical sources

like fragrances than to the spores.

I know this doesn't specifically answer your questions but I hope it

does begin to provide a framework of understanding. Others on this

group can provide their experiences. Then you can compare and make

decisions about your life.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> The mold I have been exposed to is in my body and I am sick but I don't

> think that I have mold in my house. I'm just wondering if I am now

> susceptible to all molds? Does anyone know the differences? I'm just

> wondering. I did not/do not have respiratory problems. I had pain

> only on the side of the biopsy. I did have chronic sinus infections but

> never had any congestion what so ever. I wish I understood this more.

> It's so complicated and getting straight answers from doctors is like

> pulling teeth.

>

> Regards,

> Sharon

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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[Guest guest]

Sharon, your question sounds very familiar to me. I have no answers and I am not

sure that any of my suggestions would be any good at this point either. I am in

the quest for answers as we speak.

My question dfor you is when you say what you were exposed to is in your body.

Is this a suspition of yours at this point or is there some kind of test you

have had done to tell you this?

Chris...

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote:

The mold I have been exposed to is in my body and I am sick but I

don't

think that I have mold in my house. I'm just wondering if I am now

susceptible to all molds? Does anyone know the differences? I'm just

wondering. I did not/do not have respiratory problems. I had pain

only on the side of the biopsy. I did have chronic sinus infections but

never had any congestion what so ever. I wish I understood this more.

It's so complicated and getting straight answers from doctors is like

pulling teeth.

Regards,

Sharon

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I had a biopsy clip in my breast for four and a half years. Everytime I would

get an MRI of my breast or a mammogram due to my high risk for cancer I would

get sick and it would last for months. My breast would hurt intermittantly at

the biopsy site and everything occurred on the right side same as the biopsy.

Then in January I get a pelvic exam and she uses a stainless steel/nickel

speculum and I break out in a rash mostly on the right side and I bleed for two

weeks. This had never happened and hasn't happened since. For a woman I have

had very little problems so this was highly unusual. After they put in the

marker I developed a half gulf ball sized lump which I'm told was a hematoma and

was probably when it happeded. Six months later I was back to get an ultrasound

due to swelling on my right side.

In addition I am seeing Dr. Kolb who has treated hundreds of women who

had problems with their implants and she told me I have mold inside my body.

It's the same I believe as being exposed to mold outside the body but I have

only had a chest cold once. I never had any congestion at all other than this

one time. I got sicker after they took the clip out. I should mention I am

highly allergic to nickel. I hope this helps explain a little more. Now I

wonder if my house has mold in it and how susceptable I am to amounts that would

not have affected me before.

Sharon

United States Vet <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote:

Sharon, your question sounds very familiar to me. I have no answers

and I am not sure that any of my suggestions would be any good at this point

either. I am in the quest for answers as we speak.

My question dfor you is when you say what you were exposed to is in your body.

Is this a suspition of yours at this point or is there some kind of test you

have had done to tell you this?

Chris...

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote:

The mold I have been exposed to is in my body and I am sick but I don't

think that I have mold in my house. I'm just wondering if I am now

susceptible to all molds? Does anyone know the differences? I'm just

wondering. I did not/do not have respiratory problems. I had pain

only on the side of the biopsy. I did have chronic sinus infections but

never had any congestion what so ever. I wish I understood this more.

It's so complicated and getting straight answers from doctors is like

pulling teeth.

Regards,

Sharon

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Sharon, are there any UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTERS or TEACHING HOSPITALS in

your area?

SOMETIMES, with questions like this, younger doctors are better than older

ones and often you can call faculty at a university and they can recommend

their brightest students in an area.

New doctors often know a lot more than some of the older ones. The newer

doctors might know tests, procedures, etc. that the old ones have never

heard about.

Its a shot in the dark but...

[Guest guest]

If My Doctor well tell the truth about what he removed from my womb he will tell

you it was a toxin. Also it was in Mrs. Wong Apartment in Boca Raton Fl. the

Toxin that cause 8 specialist to look into my eye's in 2006 the Doctor that did

the surgery is Doctor LASHWAY 561-738-9761 Bethesda Memorial Hospital Boynton

Beach Florida.

I have no help as of yet to weak. I'm praying for help I really like my

Doctor. he's very good and funny he put a smile on your face I worry because

where he works need cleaning and checked the building looks very badly built. no

this I told the Nurses and all to come to this web site and join in with all the

other Nurses for a safe place to work because it's toxic.

Pray for me I need to lay down hope by the end of the week my body mine and

soul is better for I'm in a moldy room. no help here I'm trying to take care of

myself and get to the beach every day it makes me feel better I drive very slow.

Elvira

United States Vet <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote:

From: United States Vet <unitedstatesvet@...>

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:38:51 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [] Is mold in your body the same as external exposure?

Sharon, your question sounds very familiar to me. I have no answers and

I am not sure that any of my suggestions would be any good at this point either.

I am in the quest for answers as we speak.

My question dfor you is when you say what you were exposed to is in your body.

[Guest guest]

Carl, from Marcie: Hi Carl, glad that your not to busy to be able to respond

to a question on the board. Thanks for helping others. Marcie

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Sharon,

There are several answers to your question.

1. Mold, bacteria and other micro-organisms in the body outnumber the

total number of cells in the body ten to one. The vast majority,

obviously, are necessary (or neutral) or we'd all be dead.

2. All these organisms, including the " bad " ones are pretty much

everywhere. But they don't grow and thrive until they find an

environment that supports them. That is why " mold " is not found

growing in dry spaces and why strepthroat bacteria are not found in

damp buildings but are in certain locations of " damp " bodies (alive).

3. Mold can cause (or are associated with) more than just allergies

and respiratory symtpoms. Although still considered controversial by

most authorities, victims understand this all too well.

4. Mold growth generates more than spores (seeds). The total biomass

of mold growth is more like a garden than scattered seeds. As the

" plant " of mold dries and fragments it usually gets blown around like

leaves in autumn.

5. Mold growth generates molecular sized components (chemicals) such

as enzymes, mycotoxins and Volatile Organic Compounds that are

thousands of times smaller than particles like spores and fragments.

They are approximately the same size as air molecules and therefore

cannot be filtered like particles are by HEPA media. Charcoal helps

but is not very effective.

6. , MD has identified 10 body systems that can be

affected by chemical exposure. Her QEESI evaluation form will soon be

on-line at: http://familymed.uthscsa.edu/qeesi.pdf You can also

search on " QEESI " for more information.

7. Sensitization to one type of mold can also result in sensitzation

to others. But considering there are over a million species of fungi

and they are everywhere, makes it less likely that we become

sensitized to ALL molds. Maybe many, but not all. The sensitization

can also be to some of the components of mold (see above) including

the chemical ones, which makes us more reactive to chemical sources

like fragrances than to the spores.

I know this doesn't specifically answer your questions but I hope it

does begin to provide a framework of understanding. Others on this

group can provide their experiences. Then you can compare and make

decisions about your life.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> The mold I have been exposed to is in my body and I am sick but I don't

> think that I have mold in my house. I'm just wondering if I am now

> susceptible to all molds? Does anyone know the differences? I'm just

> wondering. I did not/do not have respiratory problems. I had pain

> only on the side of the biopsy. I did have chronic sinus infections but

> never had any congestion what so ever. I wish I understood this more.

> It's so complicated and getting straight answers from doctors is like

> pulling teeth.

>

> Regards,

> Sharon

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hang in there!

Dana

--- In , sister sister <maatqueen@...>

wrote:

>

> If My Doctor well tell the truth about what he removed from my womb

he will tell you it was a toxin.