Re: Re: Sharon: Answers to Basic Questions

[Guest guest]

Steroids have an effect of reducing inflammation and they also

suppress the immune system - I don't think the mechanism by which this

happens is fully understood yet, but its unavoidable with them.

This makes people particularly vulnerable to colonization by fungi.

This has been known for a long time, its not just Dr. Shoemaker saying

it.

Immunosuppressive compounds (like many mycotoxins!) do similar things.

All of these bodily processes are related in complicated ways.

For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclosporine

" Cyclosporin is an immunosuppressant drug widely used post-allogeneic

organ transplant to reduce the activity of the patient's immune system

and so the risk of organ rejection. It has been studied in transplants

of skin, heart, kidney, lung, pancreas, bone marrow and small

intestine. Ciclosporin A, the main form of the drug, is a cyclic

nonribosomal peptide of 11 amino acids (an undecapeptide) produced by

the fungus Tolypocladium inflatum Gams, initially isolated from a

Norwegian soil sample. "

As you see many immunosuppressive/chemotherapy drugs ARE mycotoxins or

are derived from them structurally.

That is how they were discovered.

Thats why its wrong to allow people to manufacture these

immunosuppressive drugs

in water damaged buildings which are being used as living or working

spaces, by not maintaining them.

Water damaged buildings, each with hundreds or thousands of different

colonies of different species of molds typically growing in them, are

chemical factories, literally.

>

> >It has been

> quoted that he says taking steriods with fungal disease is like

> pouring gas on a fire,

[Guest guest]

I absolutely agree with you on this however when your body doesn't produce

cortisol that is also life threatening. I almost went into adrenal crisis about

five times. You are so right though I have to get off of them soon. I'm

working with a biotoxin savvy doctor and I've gone from 20mg. a day to 12.5mg.

Tomorrow if all goes well I'm going down to 10mg. Thanks for the excellent

information. I believe every bit of what you posted. Wish me luck in getting

off these dreadful drugs.

Regards,

Sharon

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

Steroids have an effect of reducing inflammation and they also

suppress the immune system - I don't think the mechanism by which this

happens is fully understood yet, but its unavoidable with them.

This makes people particularly vulnerable to colonization by fungi.

This has been known for a long time, its not just Dr. Shoemaker saying

it.

Immunosuppressive compounds (like many mycotoxins!) do similar things.

All of these bodily processes are related in complicated ways.

For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclosporine

" Cyclosporin is an immunosuppressant drug widely used post-allogeneic

organ transplant to reduce the activity of the patient's immune system

and so the risk of organ rejection. It has been studied in transplants

of skin, heart, kidney, lung, pancreas, bone marrow and small

intestine. Ciclosporin A, the main form of the drug, is a cyclic

nonribosomal peptide of 11 amino acids (an undecapeptide) produced by

the fungus Tolypocladium inflatum Gams, initially isolated from a

Norwegian soil sample. "

As you see many immunosuppressive/chemotherapy drugs ARE mycotoxins or

are derived from them structurally.

That is how they were discovered.

Thats why its wrong to allow people to manufacture these

immunosuppressive drugs

in water damaged buildings which are being used as living or working

spaces, by not maintaining them.

Water damaged buildings, each with hundreds or thousands of different

colonies of different species of molds typically growing in them, are

chemical factories, literally.

>

> >It has been

> quoted that he says taking steriods with fungal disease is like

> pouring gas on a fire,

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[Guest guest]

You know I am working with a doctor that has developed protocol for mold that

grows inside the body. She is very good. I did read that in his book and my

MSH is less than 8 with normal being 35-80 so I know the danger. I recently

asker her if I could go down quicker and she said yes but if I start to have

symptoms of adrenal crisis I should go back up. I'm thinking I will decrease by

another 2.5mg tomorrow and I know I'm going to be okay short of something

stressful happening. It took me five years to get diagnoses and many doctors.

In the end it was me mostly and another member of a discussion group who ended

up figuring it all out. She had worked with Dr. Shoemaker and the doctor I am

seeing and recommended the doctor I am seeing as someone who was a better fit.

I have been on treatment for almost a month. When will I start feeling better?

Anyone.

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: Sharon, you may want to check out

what Dr Shoemaker has to say about

steriods in Mold Warriors and see if it may apply to you. It has been

quoted that he says taking steriods with fungal disease is like

pouring gas on a fire, but I do not want to misquote so check out what

the book says and discuss with your doctor or Dr Shoemaker if you can

see him.

--- In , Sharon Hanson <shha2002@...>

wrote:

>

> I take steroids and I'm on a bunch of supplements as well as an anti

fungal drug. I'm pretty sick but I'm thinking it has to do with the

detoxing. I have been able to get down to 12.5mg of

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[Guest guest]

Everyone is different. It could be sooner than some or latter than some..

Will just pray its sooner.

K

Sharon Hanson <shha2002@...> wrote:

You know I am working with a doctor that has developed protocol for

mold that grows inside the body. She is very good. I did read that in his book

and my MSH is less than 8 with normal being 35-80 so I know the danger. I

recently asker her if I could go down quicker and she said yes but if I start to

have symptoms of adrenal crisis I should go back up. I'm thinking I will

decrease by another 2.5mg tomorrow and I know I'm going to be okay short of

something stressful happening. It took me five years to get diagnoses and many

doctors. In the end it was me mostly and another member of a discussion group

who ended up figuring it all out. She had worked with Dr. Shoemaker and the

doctor I am seeing and recommended the doctor I am seeing as someone who was a

better fit. I have been on treatment for almost a month. When will I start

feeling better? Anyone.

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: Sharon, you may want to check out what Dr

Shoemaker has to say about

steriods in Mold Warriors and see if it may apply to you. It has been

quoted that he says taking steriods with fungal disease is like

pouring gas on a fire, but I do not want to misquote so check out what

the book says and discuss with your doctor or Dr Shoemaker if you can

see him.

--- In , Sharon Hanson <shha2002@...>

wrote:

>

> I take steroids and I'm on a bunch of supplements as well as an anti

fungal drug. I'm pretty sick but I'm thinking it has to do with the

detoxing. I have been able to get down to 12.5mg of

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[Guest guest]

Good question . I'm not sure but I believe I am on a supplement that binds

toxins. I wonder also if it's because although my body has a fungal infection

and has had one for five years it could be that I don't have the HLA-DR markers

and I would be able to clear the toxins but this I'm not sure about either.

More homework great question.

Sharon

carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote:

Start feeling better after a few months on CSM(Cholestrymine)-if your

Dr is not perscribing a proven mold toxin binder-why is she " good " ??

>

> You know I am working with a doctor that has developed protocol for

mold that grows inside the body. She is very good. I did read that

in his book and my MSH is less than 8 with normal being 35-80 so I

know the danger. I recently asker her if I could go down quicker and

she said yes but if I start to have symptoms of adrenal crisis I

should go back up. I'm thinking I will decrease by another 2.5mg

tomorrow and I know I'm going to be okay short of something stressful

happening. It took me five years to get diagnoses and many doctors.

In the end it was me mostly and another member of a discussion group

who ended up figuring it all out. She had worked with Dr. Shoemaker

and the doctor I am seeing and recommended the doctor I am seeing as

someone who was a better fit. I have been on treatment for almost a

month. When will I start feeling better? Anyone.

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[Guest guest]

What OTC supplement binds mold toxins?

Activated charcoal?