Re: Need Help for Dog/Reply to Vit C IVs - LiveSimply

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've stopped the H2O2 for now. I think it provides some oxygen to

the cells. My doctor had me on it years ago. It also kills

pathogens. In this case, she was in such a crisis, it was either

kill or cure (sounds terrible, but, I was desperate)

As for the Vit C IVs. I finally had a brief talk with the vet.

She is a holistic/homeopathic vet. She said she got the information

from a Dr. Goldstein in NY. and through many holistic

conferences/workshops.

Two and a half years ago Nasha had a leg problem with nerve

damage and chewed off a toe. Then the next year she chewed off

another toe. The hospital wanted to take her leg off. I said NO and

we tried many things, including Vit C IVs. Things went well and

after time the nerve finally grew back - down to her toes. So, we've

had experience with the IVs and she is being monitored well for any

adverse effects.

I appreciate your concern and the time you took to inform me -

I didn't blow it off and took it seriously.

The consult at the very excellent hospital in Va. resulted

in " just keep her comfortable " - meaningless to me!! They did not

recommend chemo or radiation at this point. So, I was on my own

basically. And Nasha, although very sick, still had light in her

eyes. Whe wasn't ready to go yet.

Thank you,

>

> ,

>

> I don't think hydrogen peroxide would be good for your dog under

any

> conditions but I'd guess that it might be particularly bad in

cancer

> situations. Also, dogs synthesize their own vitamin C from food,

ulike

> us, they don't usually need added vitamin c!

>

> A healthy dog should not need added vitamin C. A good vet would be

> able to tell you if a sick dog might benefit from additional

vitamin

> C, which could be added to their food or water if they have the

> strength to do either. However, you might want to show them this:

>

> J Nutr. 2002 Jun;132(6 Suppl 2):1616S-21S.

>

> Supplemental vitamin C appears to slow racing greyhounds.

>

> Marshall RJ, KC, Hill RC, DD, Sundstrom D,

GL, Harper J.

>

> Department of Small Animal Clinical Sciences and the Center for

> Veterinary Sports Medicine, College of Veterinary Medicine,

University

> of Florida, Gainesville, FL, USA.

>

> During strenuous exercise, markers of oxidation increase and

> antioxidant capacity decreases. Antioxidants such as vitamin C may

> combat this oxidation stress. The benefits of vitamin C to

greyhounds

> undertaking intense sprint exercise has not been investigated. The

> objective of this experiment was to determine whether a large dose

(1

> g or 57 mmol) of ascorbic acid influences performance and oxidative

> stress in greyhounds. Five adult female, trained racing greyhounds

> were assigned to receive each of three treatments for 4 wk per

> treatment: 1) no supplemental ascorbate; 2) 1 g oral ascorbate

daily,

> administered after racing; 3) 1 g oral ascorbate daily,

administered 1

> h before racing. Dogs raced 500 m twice weekly. At the end of each

> treatment period, blood was collected before and 5 min, 60 min and

24

> h after racing. Plasma ascorbate, alpha-tocopherol, thiobarbituric

> acid-reducing substances (TBARS) and Trolox equivalent antioxidant

> capacity (TEAC) concentrations were measured and adjusted to

> compensate for hemoconcentration after racing. TBARS, TEAC and

> alpha-tocopherol concentrations were unaffected by supplemental

> vitamin C. Plasma ascorbic acid concentrations 60 min after racing

> were higher in dogs that received vitamin C before racing than in

dogs

> that either received no vitamin C or received vitamin C after

racing.

> The dogs ran, on average, 0.2 s slower when supplemented with 1 g

of

> vitamin C, equivalent to a lead of 3 m at the finish of a 500-m

race.

> Supplementation with vitamin C, therefore, appeared to slow racing

> greyhounds.

>

[Guest guest]

,

I wouldn't want to second guess you or your doctor. I take supplemental

Vitamin C and E and also multivitamins.

My main wonder was why any water soluble antioxidant needed to be IV when

ascorbic acid / vitamin C absorbs well from the stomach as well (so it can

be put in food)

And also there are the issues with healthy dogs making enough of their own

vitamin C from food (unlike we humans!) But that may not apply to sick dogs.

Its quite possible that they might benefit from extra vitamin C added to

their food.

I guess I am also always a bit wary of the medical

profession or any other profession about money, sometimes to a fault. I am

trying to be less suspicious of people, after my mold experience I am a

basket case emotionally.