Re: Re: Where did it come from?

[Guest guest]

To repeat, if some have forgotten, KC, that book in the Bible is Leviticus,

Chapter 14.......please read it, people. It says VOLUMES.......just in one

chapter.

Also--although " toxic mold " has been around for centuries, I have my own

theories. One of those theories is the fact that CHEAPO " contractors " are

building flat roofed buildings...as CHEAP as they can, in order to make their

millions. They do NOT care (most, anyway!) about the safety and welfare of

those people who must live in, go to school in, or work in, those sick

buildings. Furthermore, those buildings which are water-damaged, are often

supposedly " renovated " or " remediated, " when in truth they should be

DEMOLISHED...... & that's a direct quote from one of my doc's offices just in the

past week. If a building is a sick building to begin with, what makes those

responsible think that " renovation " will solve the underlying problems? THey're

lying FOOLS.....especially here in my town.

Take care, all--

[Guest guest]

Hi Betsy and KC,

I might add that I read somewhere that the Russians years ago mutated

the stacybotrys fungus into a more powerful fungus in their biowarfare

program. Also, our newer airtight homes with fungi-loving paper

sheetrock has contributed to the problem. My own speculation is that

other environmental factors have altered our ph levels in our bodies

to allow various fungal infections to proliferate (new medications,

fallout , chlorinated water, and the high sugar content

in our foods).

Barth

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t> Betsy,

t> Fungi and their toxins have been around for centuries. Vicki put on

t> the board last week what chapters in the bible that they speak of

t> it. The reason why you hear more about it now is because of the

t> internet. People are able to compare notes concerning what has been

t> happening to them, research information, etc. Many of the research

t> papers that have been posted here are back in the 70's, 80's and

t> much, much earlier. Also we have more and more people yelling on the

t> top of their lungs about the cause and affects of these toxins.

t> Digestion of toxins have been studied for decades, we are still

t> fighting the inhalation aspect of it.

t> Doctors, scientists, etc., have know about these illnesses for a

t> long time. Unfortunately when antibodics were started to put pushed

t> in great numbers as the " magic pill " they stopped training doctors

t> on the effects of mycotoxins. Example of: Back in the

t> chemo/radiation treatment was first started it's orginal name

t> was, " Antifungal chemotherapy-radiation treatment. " (I can't

t> remember the exact date it was either in the late 1800's or early

t> 1900's.)

t> Unfortunately, it has already spiraled out of control. We are trying

t> to stop it from continuing.

t> KC

t>

>>

>> I have questions I've never seen brought up yet. Where did toxic

t> mold come from? When did it start? Toxic mold (as far as I know)

t> was unheard of until the latter part of the 1990's. My husband is

t> dead. I am in a wheelchair. The same holds true for many, many

t> other toxic mold victims. What is going on? I have heard that

t> there are biochemical warfare laboratories in many major cities and

t> their quality control and safety protocols are inadequate. Another

t> thought is that newer building materials sacrifice biocompatiblity

t> for economic gain or convenience of use for the builders. We could

t> come up with a wealth of conspiracy theories here as well but some

t> solid answers would be preferable. Why aren't the mainstream

t> medical and environmental authorities taking this seriously yet?

t> Unless someone comes up with some answers and solutions, many lives

t> will be ruined and toxic mold may spiral past the point of control.

>> Betsy

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

.................Leviticus XIV talks about leprosy but it may not be too

much of a stretch to look upon toxic mold in the same light. The specific herb

mentioned is hyssop. Hyssop is mentioned in several places in the Bible and it

might be a good herb to consider when using a detoxing regimen for yourself.

Best wishes..............Betsy

<toriaquilts@...> wrote:

To repeat, if some have forgotten, KC, that book in the Bible is

Leviticus, Chapter 14.......please read it, people. It says VOLUMES.......just

in one chapter.

Also--although " toxic mold " has been around for centuries, I have my own

theories. One of those theories is the fact that CHEAPO " contractors " are

building flat roofed buildings...as CHEAP as they can, in order to make their

millions. They do NOT care (most, anyway!) about the safety and welfare of those

people who must live in, go to school in, or work in, those sick buildings.

Furthermore, those buildings which are water-damaged, are often supposedly

" renovated " or " remediated, " when in truth they should be DEMOLISHED...... &

that's a direct quote from one of my doc's offices just in the past week. If a

building is a sick building to begin with, what makes those responsible think

that " renovation " will solve the underlying problems? THey're lying

FOOLS.....especially here in my town.

Take care, all--

[Guest guest]

KC, you really mean that molds/fungus have been around since the beginnings of

life on earth, millions of years rather than hundreds, yes?

A major roll of fungus has been to facilitate decay so that new life has room to

grow where previous things have died. It's part of the circle of life. The

Bible talks about fungus, of course. It has always been with us, we just

haven't always recognized its effects, and mold in indoor environments has the

ability to fortify itself and become more hazardous than molds living outdoors

where it has competitors.

~Haley

tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: Betsy,

Fungi and their toxins have been around for centuries. Vicki put on

the board last week what chapters in the bible that they speak of

it. The reason why you hear more about it now is because of the

internet. People are able to compare notes concerning what has been

happening to them, research information, etc. Many of the research

papers that have been posted here are back in the 70's, 80's and

much, much earlier. Also we have more and more people yelling on the

top of their lungs about the cause and affects of these toxins.

Digestion of toxins have been studied for decades, we are still

fighting the inhalation aspect of it.

Doctors, scientists, etc., have know about these illnesses for a

long time. Unfortunately when antibodics were started to put pushed

in great numbers as the " magic pill " they stopped training doctors

on the effects of mycotoxins.

[Guest guest]

Stachybotrys mycotoxicosis was first described in the 1930s, in the

ex-Soviet Union. Chances are that people have been getting sick from toxic

mold for as long as there have been people, they just didn't realize what

the causes were.

Toxic mold remediation suggestions were given in the Old Testament of the

Bible, which implies at least 1700 BCE or so..

Of course, buildings are tighter now and built differently. Sheetrock in

particular wasn't around until the 60s or so..

Many people also are less able to afford to leave windows open.

Because of the cost of heating and air conditioning some people get less

fresh air than they might have in the past because of higher energy costs

and a perceived need to keep those heating or cooling costs down.

Also, the cost of medical care has skyrocketed, and the social contract has

deteriorated. In the past, people may have had more of a support network for

when they got sick, now they don't and they also are acutely aware of the

economic impact of illness on their and their families futures.

They see mold as avoidable, and they get angry when it isn't avoided. Things

that greedy people would have gotten away with doing to poor people before,

are now much less tolerated as people realize that they are not alone in

having them done to them.

[Guest guest]

This is a ver7y good explanation.

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: Stachybotrys mycotoxicosis

was first described in the 1930s, in the

ex-Soviet Union. Chances are that people have been getting sick from toxic

mold for as long as there have been people, they just didn't realize what

the causes were.

Toxic mold remediation suggestions were given in the Old Testament of the

Bible, which implies at least 1700 BCE or so..

Of course, buildings are tighter now and built differently. Sheetrock in

particular wasn't around until the 60s or so..

Many people also are less able to afford to leave windows open.

Because of the cost of heating and air conditioning some people get less

fresh air than they might have in the past because of higher energy costs

and a perceived need to keep those heating or cooling costs down.

Also, the cost of medical care has skyrocketed, and the social contract has

deteriorated. In the past, people may have had more of a support network for

when they got sick, now they don't and they also are acutely aware of the

economic impact of illness on their and their families futures.

They see mold as avoidable, and they get angry when it isn't avoided. Things

that greedy people would have gotten away with doing to poor people before,

are now much less tolerated as people realize that they are not alone in

having them done to them.

[Guest guest]

Hey Everyone! I think that all together, you've all answered the question

perfectly. As far as my thinking I think that Quackadillian hit it closest

for me. Over the past 11 months, I have had the wonderful opportunities to

converse with many mold abatement contractors and I asked them the same

question. Most of them said the same things: that people didn't use drywall

(sheet rock) in building homes, since plaster was the preferred material for

walls; also that the mold " eats " the chemicals that are in the newer

synthetic building materials; that we use forced air and heating systems now

instead of fireplaces, etc, which doesn't really keep the atmosphere as dry

as it used to; that since we do use air conditioning these days we don't get

as much fresh air circulation in our homes and the air conditioners

themselves can cause mold from all the chemicals used in them and also the

condensation that builds up and no one ever even realizes it until they have

to move it for some reason; also they said that most of the time when you

bring the lumber to the job site it's already got mold on it, so it's been

sitting around a lumber yard, around the other building supplies that the

mold likes to feast on and those spores (toxic spores) spread to the

lumber. I think that's about all they said about it. And all of the things

that all of you have stated all kind of fits together. Because not only did

people mutate the toxins but they also mutated on their own and became more

toxic, as all toxins, viruses and bacteria do. There are so many

chemicals in the newer building materials that the molds like to eat that no

wonder they grow so much faster. They especially like the glues in

carpeting, drywall, particle board, etc..... So I guess one of the reasons

also is because when there weren't so many chemicals in the building

materials, there wouldn't have grown as much mold as quickly and we would

have been able to keep control of it pretty easily. After all, how long

have electric refrigerators been around? .... and air conditioners? ....

etc.... OK, so now I can go back to my plain old self... and take off my

brainiac hat! ... hehehe... I'm sure there were other things that have been

told to me about it or that I've read but I can't remember any more right

now. I hope I've helped.

Blessings,