Re: Re: Manning Stainton will expose you to the health risks of Toxic Mould!

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The ACOEM, in my understanding, are who people and physicians are

referred to by Washington.

So, it appears that they are understood to be in charge of collecting

statistics on how many people are sickened by mold.

(But I don't know if anyone has qualified yet to be included under

their approach)

Sort of like having the foxes guard the chickens.

I have not seen any statistics from them, and I see how it would be hard

for them to properly collect statistics on a connection to disease

that they claim does not exist.

We all should write our congresspeople and senators.

That is more effective than writing people like Oprah Winfrew

On Dec 3, 2007 5:26 AM, ldelp84227 <ldelp84227@...> wrote:

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> According to the NYC Department of Health, there are a limited number

> of documented cases of health problems from indoor exposure to fungi.

> One problem is this statement. Doesn't any group keep any documentation

> on how many cases there are is the country. It is disgusting after

> doing this for ten years and nothing is updated with the NY Guidelines.

> And I can't believe the picture in this article with ALL that mold.

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[Guest guest]

/All:

The lack of accountability in medical recording of fungal related illnesses is

not because of any error or failure of the system to realize the unhealthiness

of micro fungi or the mycotoxins produced by them. Unlike illnesses believed

caused by bacteria or viruses (that attach to live cells in disease causation)

" microfungi " (i.e., molds and yeasts or dimorphic molds), and their chemical

excretions are used commercially in literally thousands upon thousands of

products... from perfumes and colognes to medicines, food products, cleaning

products, fuel, alcohol products, tobacco products, beverages, and many others.

Other microbes do not have this huge impact on the economy. Also, in medicine,

microfungi infections and deep tissue colonization are far more deadly to humans

and much harder to medically treat or diagnose than their microbial

counterparts.

No... I am afraid that the lack of attention to human disease is a precise and

calculated decision by both government regulating agencies and the medical

industry. Why? Were the actual and factual dynamics of fungal diseases to be

fiscally accounted for and reportable in advanced molecular research: 1) HMOs,

PPOs and other health insurance entities such as these would have to convert

their mission from one of " preventive medicine " to " treatment medicine " , and

face the fact that in " treatment medicine " , arbitrarily-speaking, many patients

over the age of 50 whose medical conditions are primarily microfungi-related,

would not only have to be accurately accounted for and properly treated, but

they would perhaps " break the bank. " As it stands now, many of these " idiopathic

diseases " are classified as " unknown cause and/or unknown cure " . As such, the

medical has a wide range of treatment possibilities in which to work

medically-speaking. As long as various " idiopathic diseases " are classified as

such, the medical field is not under any regulation to report them to the CDC.

Unlike most bacterial and viral categories of human disease. 2) Literally

hundreds of thousand medical malpractice cases would emerge for inadequate and

uncertified medical treatments in high-risk patients (i.e., cancers, leukemia,

neurological diseases, or even idiopathic diseases, etc.), that quite possibly

might have been treated far more effectively had medical schools taught far more

about environmental medicine (specific to microfungi and mycotoxins) than they

do at present. For instance, in 1943 Swiss Chemist Albert Hofmann was who had

been studying Claviceps purpurea Sp., (ergot) for several years, discovered the

hallucinogenic (i.e., mind-altering properties and neurological changes) affects

of this particular mold. The study of certain Aspergillus species date back to

the 1890s, esp., involving chemicals released by the Aspergillus niger species

industrially used to produce various bleaching products. Respiratory diseases

related to Aspergillus fumigatus species are well documented medically, and the

Merck Manual for medics lists 11 fungi-related diseases or health conditions

that specifically are connected to inhalation as the primary route of contact.

What I am saying directly; given the fact that modern medical mycology studies

are derived from research into HIV/AIDS, is that medical doctors, even in

general practice, are not stupid people " by a long shot " . Doctors of today in

medicine have been around antifungal medicines since the 1940s, and are very

aware of the deadly and serious consequences of prolonged exposure to even

minimal pathogenic microfungi. The true question here should not be, what do

doctors really know about microfungi exposures, but WHY are medical doctors

fearful of exploring new methods of treatment relative to fungal infections? I

can tell you through my extensive research, there are more political aspects to

the medical accountability for microfungal diagnosis in disease than simply the

medical profession policing itself. This is a " Catch-22 " of super-huge political

and moral accountability dynamics in the American public health quandary.

Best regards,

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

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@...: ldelp84227@...: Mon, 3 Dec 2007

10:26:33 +0000Subject: [] Re: Manning Stainton will expose you to

the health risks of Toxic Mould!

According to the NYC Department of Health, there are a limited number of

documented cases of health problems from indoor exposure to fungi.One problem is

this statement. Doesn't any group keep any documentation on how many cases there

are is the country. It is disgusting after doing this for ten years and nothing

is updated with the NY Guidelines. And I can't believe the picture in this

article with ALL that mold.

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The study of certain Aspergillus species date back to the 1890s, esp.,

involving chemicals released by the Aspergillus niger species industrially used

to produce various bleaching products. Respiratory diseases related to

Aspergillus fumigatus species are well documented medically, and the Merck

Manual for medics lists 11 fungi-related diseases or health conditions that

specifically are connected to inhalation as the primary route of contact.

Doug,

This was a good post. Thanks. I am interested in more information regarding

the respiratory diseases related to Aspergillus species involving chemicals

relaeased by the Aspergillus niger species industrially used to produce various

bleaching products.

I'm really dumb about this as I have no medical background but I have a few

questions.

Would these bleaching products include household bleaching products such as

bleach, Comet and other products that say contains bleach?

Upon the recommendation of my MD, I am using chlorine dioxide to kill the

fungi in my body. This as far as I know is like bleach but not harmful. I have

had no respiratory problems as my fungi infections are in my body. What do you

think about this as a solution to systemic fungus infections? The product is

called the Miracle Mineral Supplement.

Thanks,

Sharon Hanson

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Sharon Hanson/All:

In answer to your question, I will offer an interesting web address that

discusses the use of " bleach " products in dealing with microfungi removal.

http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/notobleach.htm

http://www.spore-tech.com/viewCategory.asp?idCategory=78

With that addressed, let me directly answer your concerns as best I can:

First, a definition of " enzyme " : Enzyme n. Any of numerous proteins or

conjugated proteins produced by living organisms and functioning as biochemical

catalysts.

The enzyme products of Aspergillus niger are used in tooth cleaning.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6379653.html

Pulp wood bleaching using Aspergillus niger enzyme feruloyl esterase FAEA.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/5w96eqwa8brp3rdp/

http://www.inra.fr/compact/nav/externe/en/unites/toedit/1163

Aspergillus Niger chemical properties of chlorine bleach:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed & uid=4026866 & cmd=showdetailvie\

w & indexed=google

What I have been able to find in short, is that Aspergillus niger chemical

components, esp., enzyme activities are mainly produced for their bleaching

qualities for use in the pulp wood and paper industries. Generally speaking

though this species as well as many other mold species produce similar enzymes,

but not as efficiently. The sodium hypochlorite and calcium hypochlorite are

products found in chlorine bleach. Aspergillus and other molds do produce forms

of hypochlorite chemicals and ironically are also used for producing citric

acids (used in many products for cleaning and physical consumption). I hope with

this I have answered as many of your concerns as possible. Remember, we all are

still learning about the many extremely complexities of microfungi, but one

thing is certain... pathogenically, these microbes are directly involved with

serious health complications.

A little extra something that might be of major interest, for your reading

pleasure: http://www.geocities.com/luizmeira/enzimas.htm

Warm regards,

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

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@...: shha2002@...: Mon, 3 Dec 2007

18:08:53 -0800Subject: RE: [] Re: Manning Stainton will expose you

to the health risks of Toxic Mould!

The study of certain Aspergillus species date back to the 1890s, esp., involving

chemicals released by the Aspergillus niger species industrially used to produce

various bleaching products. Respiratory diseases related to Aspergillus

fumigatus species are well documented medically, and the Merck Manual for medics

lists 11 fungi-related diseases or health conditions that specifically are

connected to inhalation as the primary route of contact.Doug,This was a good

post. Thanks. I am interested in more information regarding the respiratory

diseases related to Aspergillus species involving chemicals relaeased by the

Aspergillus niger species industrially used to produce various bleaching

products. I'm really dumb about this as I have no medical background but I have

a few questions. Would these bleaching products include household bleaching

products such as bleach, Comet and other products that say contains bleach? Upon

the recommendation of my MD, I am using chlorine dioxide to kill the fungi in my

body. This as far as I know is like bleach but not harmful. I have had no

respiratory problems as my fungi infections are in my body. What do you think

about this as a solution to systemic fungus infections? The product is called

the Miracle Mineral Supplement. Thanks,Sharon

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