Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I was shocked to see the other day how expensive 'generic' cholestyramine has become in the pharmacy I have gotten it from. Which made me wonder, WHY ? What possible reason could they have to charge what they charge? (BTW, did you know that the average prescription costs 11 cents, plus the cost of the bottle and other packaging, to manufacture?) I was just wondering, lots of other drugs have gone OTC and their cost has gone down, and I could see benefits to that with cholestyramine. The pros would outweigh the cons.. Obviously, people would have to be warned about cramps, constipation, etc. Do people see any other negatives? So many people could be helped, I think mold illness is much more common than many people realize, especially with older people, where I think it causes premature dementia. People would get their inflammation down and then they could see where their inflammation came from.. Maybe that is what they are afraid of.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Is there any type of herbal product or natural supplement that works the same as CSM? LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: I was shocked to see the other day how expensive 'generic' cholestyramine has become in the pharmacy I have gotten it from. Which made me wonder, WHY ? What possible reason could they have to charge what they charge? (BTW, did you know that the average prescription costs 11 cents, plus the cost of the bottle and other packaging, to manufacture?) I was just wondering, lots of other drugs have gone OTC and their cost has gone down, and I could see benefits to that with cholestyramine. The pros would outweigh the cons.. Obviously, people would have to be warned about cramps, constipation, etc. Do people see any other negatives? So many people could be helped, I think mold illness is much more common than many people realize, especially with older people, where I think it causes premature dementia. People would get their inflammation down and then they could see where their inflammation came from.. Maybe that is what they are afraid of.. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I am not aware of any. Lots of people put forward product X or Y as 'helping detox' but this is a very specific kind of activity and I doubt very strongly that any nonprescription binding agent is effective as cholestyramine. The closest thing I know of is activated charcoal, and I am not at all sure of its activity on the worst mycotoxins. They get into the bloodstream, they cause damage to everything they touch, lungs, brain (they disrupt the BBB), liver, kidneys, etc. The ones that the liver filters out go into the bile where there is a moment of opportunity as they pass through the gut.. (the bile is used to help digest food) Thats where CSM can bind the toxins, IF ITS THERE, so they end up in poop rather than back in the bloodstream again with the recycled bile salts.. On Nov 13, 2007 9:37 AM, Brown <charlesb35@...> wrote: > > > Is there any type of herbal product or natural supplement that works the > same as CSM? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I agree Live, I've read quite a bit on ageing and those illnesses thought to be related to just getting older or not just because the bodsy is wearing out, I think Doug Haney once stated something like this. mold is working on decomposeing before we die. older people are much more suceptable to even lower amounts of molds and toxins. I posted a clinical trial a while back they were trying a cholesterol redudeing drug on people with sarcoidosis, cant remember the name of it, but I have a felling that the all these type drugs are going to go up in price. --- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: > > I was shocked to see the other day how expensive 'generic' > cholestyramine has become in the pharmacy I have gotten it from. > > Which made me wonder, WHY ? What possible reason could they have to > charge what they charge? (BTW, did you know that the average > prescription costs 11 cents, plus the cost of > the bottle and other packaging, to manufacture?) > > I was just wondering, lots of other drugs have gone OTC and their cost > has gone down, and I could see benefits to that with cholestyramine. > > The pros would outweigh the cons.. > > Obviously, people would have to be warned about cramps, constipation, > etc. Do people see any other negatives? So many people could be > helped, > I think mold illness is much more common than many people realize, > especially with older people, where I think it causes premature > dementia. > > People would get their inflammation down and then they could see where > their inflammation came from.. Maybe that is what they are afraid of.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Dr. Marinkovich mentioned that Agar Agar has bonding properties like CSM. One can find this in many health food stores I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Thanks. I will check into Agar Agar. I really need to see Dr. Shoemaker but he's just too far away. salzberglver3 <salzberglver3@...> wrote: Dr. Marinkovich mentioned that Agar Agar has bonding properties like CSM. One can find this in many health food stores I believe. --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 , Why don't you just lay it on the line to your doctor and ask him/her to prescribe it for you. Its not exactly a 'drug of abuse'. I can't speak for others but cholestyramine worked better than activated charcoal for me. (the only other myco-detoxicant I have had any experience with) On Nov 13, 2007 5:35 PM, Brown <charlesb35@...> wrote: > > > Thanks. I will check into Agar Agar. I really need to see Dr. Shoemaker but > he's just too far away. > > > salzberglver3 <salzberglver3@...> wrote: > Dr. Marinkovich mentioned that Agar Agar has bonding properties like > CSM. One can find this in many health food stores I believe. > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it > now. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 i can't stress enough that anyone who's chronically ill likely has a toxic liver, even though blood work would say otherwise. in lieu of CSM, i think doing liver flushes/cleanses (the BEST protocol hands-down is from the www.sensiblehealth.com website) would undoubtedly help. ask for when you call the ph #. essentially, you take the Chinese Bitters (you start with a teaspoon & gradually work your way up to a tablespoon which could take weeks or months) & possibly the other liquid formulas ( & depending on other factors, like your age, if you have a gall bladder, etc...which is why it's important to speak with ) for 6 weeks, then do the actual liver flush/cleanse (a 2-day process). continue taking the Chinese Bitters daily and do the flush/cleanse every 2 weeks for 3-4 months, depending on how toxic you are. I was shocked to see the other day how expensive 'generic' > cholestyramine has become in the pharmacy I have gotten it from. > > Which made me wonder, WHY ? What possible reason could they have to > charge what they charge? (BTW, did you know that the average > prescription costs 11 cents, plus the cost of > the bottle and other packaging, to manufacture?) > > I was just wondering, lots of other drugs have gone OTC and their cost > has gone down, and I could see benefits to that with cholestyramine. > > The pros would outweigh the cons.. > > Obviously, people would have to be warned about cramps, constipation, > etc. Do people see any other negatives? So many people could be > helped, > I think mold illness is much more common than many people realize, > especially with older people, where I think it causes premature > dementia. > > People would get their inflammation down and then they could see where > their inflammation came from.. Maybe that is what they are afraid of.. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Thanks. I will keep that in mind as I figure out what to do next. xhannahx24 <xhannahx24@...> wrote: i can't stress enough that anyone who's chronically ill likely has a toxic liver, even though blood work would say otherwise. in lieu of CSM, i think doing liver flushes/cleanses (the BEST protocol hands-down is from the www.sensiblehealth.com website) would undoubtedly help. ask for when you call the ph #. essentially, you take the Chinese Bitters (you start with a teaspoon & gradually work your way up to a tablespoon which could take weeks or months) & possibly the other liquid formulas ( & depending on other factors, like your age, if you have a gall bladder, etc...which is why it's important to speak with ) for 6 weeks, then do the actual liver flush/cleanse (a 2-day process). continue taking the Chinese Bitters daily and do the flush/cleanse every 2 weeks for 3-4 months, depending on how toxic you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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