Re: RE : Re: Dr. Shoemaker's submission to the National Toxic...

[Guest guest]

Carl,

I think I can answer that one for you. It changed when it became the charge

of occupational medicine to determine medical treatment because this is the

most inherently conflicted field of medicine there is. WAYYYYYYY to much

industry influence, with the courtroom driving the " Science " .

Occ Med needs to go as far as establishing anything. And it is not just

mold victims that have a problem with this. Nor is it just environmental

exposures. It is across the board of illness and injury. The way they are

controlling the matter is thru those AOEC's...that are nothing more than the

front

men of ACOEM. And we are Government funding these AOEC's to advance the

understanding of environmental illnesses in children. It is quite disgusting

in my

book!!!

In a message dated 12/3/2007 7:02:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

grimes@... writes:

The conversation with you two got me to wondering: When did the

doctor-patient relationship treatment change from " Doctor something

is wrong " and the Doctor says " This is my diagnosis and treatment. "

To " Tell me what is wrong with you and what caused it. If I agree I

will treat you, but if I disagree then I won't treat you. "

I agree that the burden of proof has shifted to the patient, which is

the mirror image of medicine. It's Alice Through the Looking Glass.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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