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@...: moldhostage@...: Mon, 19 Nov

2007 14:00:38 -0800Subject: [] Need Help! Does mold remediation

work?

Hi All,We just received mold testing results from our certified industrial

hygienist on our newly purchased house. It showed: a) very heavy stachybotrys

and penecillium behind a basement bookcase on tape lift; B) very heavy

chaetomium and aspergillis in a basement closet on tape lift; c) chaetomium on

air samples in basement utility room (people just moved out, took things from

closet through utility room door); d) aspergillis in kitchen --level was 800--on

air samples; e) some aspergillis in bedrooms--about 160--which is thought to be

insignificant. These results are for our moldy house #2. (We evacuated moldy

house #1 about 7 months ago). We are highly sensitized to mold and are having

symptoms from our new house already. We even brought contamination back with us

to the hotel we're staying in. The industrial hygienist thinks the house can be

remediated and we should be able to live in it. Any advice? Has anyone

successfully remediated a moldy house? Thanks so much in advance..Mold

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Please take my advice-do not by any means attempt to remediate- move-

I have been fighting this illness now for many years, and if there is

one thing I have learned-it is that taking extreme precautions early

in the illness may pay off later in being able to have a life. Not

being extreme enough will only mean continual moves and less and less

healthy days. The more you are exposed the sicker you become-even

with almost no toxin. I can now not live in even a normal house- I

have tried remediation-if you are sensitized it will not work.

> These results are for our moldy house #2. (We evacuated moldy

house #1 about 7 months ago). We are highly sensitized to mold and

are having symptoms from our new house already. We even brought

contamination back with us to the hotel we're staying in. The

industrial hygienist thinks the house can be remediated and we should

be able to live in it.

>

> Any advice? Has anyone successfully remediated a moldy house?

Thanks so much in advance..

>

> Mold Hostage

>

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> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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OK, I will bite-#1-why when I was living out of doors last year, did

I totally regain my health for several months, and only secumed again

when I unknowingly moved into a toxic house-#2 who are those who do

not want me to know the truth, and why? #3-who would I make an app.

with to help me in this matter, and what tests should I have done.

>

> Carondeen: What you and others do not realize is that your are

probably colonized with mold. The lalte Dr. Marinkovich firmly

believed that this is what is occuring. An as example, indivdiuals

with Aspergllosis from A. fumigatus, versicolor, ustus and niger have

an infectious process going on. Also, the mycotoxin, Gliotoxin, as

been demonstrated in lung secretions and sera of these patients.

Those who do not want you to know the truth deny that mold

colonization can take place in people with fairly normal immune

systems. For your and others information gliotoxins are immune

suppressing mycotoxins. Other mycotoxins can also have adverse

affects on the immune system. Thus, you carry you illness with you no

matter where you may go.

>

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

> Toxicologist

> Immunotoxicologist

> Fetal Toxicologyist

> toxicologist1@...

>

> [] Re: Need Help! Does mold remediation

work?

>

>

> Please take my advice-do not by any means attempt to remediate-

move-

> I have been fighting this illness now for many years, and if

there is

> one thing I have learned-it is that taking extreme precautions

early

> in the illness may pay off later in being able to have a life.

Not

> being extreme enough will only mean continual moves and less and

less

> healthy days. The more you are exposed the sicker you become-even

> with almost no toxin. I can now not live in even a normal house-

I

> have tried remediation-if you are sensitized it will not work.

>

> > These results are for our moldy house #2. (We evacuated moldy

> house #1 about 7 months ago). We are highly sensitized to mold

and

> are having symptoms from our new house already. We even brought

> contamination back with us to the hotel we're staying in. The

> industrial hygienist thinks the house can be remediated and we

should

> be able to live in it.

> >

> > Any advice? Has anyone successfully remediated a moldy house?

> Thanks so much in advance..

> >

> > Mold Hostage

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

> >

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totally agree with your last sentence-- " Thus, you carry you illness

with you no matter where you may go " .

until deep detoxification occurs, any *improvement* or well-being felt

will be temporary.

>

> Carondeen: What you and others do not realize is that your are

probably colonized with mold. The lalte Dr. Marinkovich firmly

believed that this is what is occuring. An as example, indivdiuals

with Aspergllosis from A. fumigatus, versicolor, ustus and niger have

an infectious process going on. Also, the mycotoxin, Gliotoxin, as

been demonstrated in lung secretions and sera of these patients.

Those who do not want you to know the truth deny that mold

colonization can take place in people with fairly normal immune

systems. For your and others information gliotoxins are immune

suppressing mycotoxins. Other mycotoxins can also have adverse

affects on the immune system. Thus, you carry you illness with you no

matter where you may go.

>

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

> Toxicologist

> Immunotoxicologist

> Fetal Toxicologyist

> toxicologist1@...

>

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What my questions refer to is the statement you made, of taking your

illness with you because of mold colinization-meaning an active live

infection that would cause you to manufacture your own mycotoxins. If

a person regains health, and only succumbs to illness after exposure

to mold, I am assuming the person does not have a live infection in

their body, but is succumbing again to the biotoxin illness, as

outlined by Dr Shoemaker, that the more you are exposed, the less it

takes to make you sicker. I can look back at exposures I had over 20

years ago, that I completly recovered from for many years, only

getting sick upon re-exposure. I believe that I have regained totall

health for many years at least 2X- now alittle mold makes me sick-

this is in agreement with Dr Shoemakers studies.

>

> I doubt that you totally regained your health. Most likely you

felt a 1000 % better. Once you returmed to a close environment with

all the chemicals and possibly mold that are present, your illness

came back. Mold victims develop a variety of chemical

sensitivities. Since the death of Dr. Marinkovich, the physicians in

the country that do full diagnosis and treatment are Gray,

Benson, Arizona and several others.

>

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