Re: Sulfur as a trigger

[Guest guest]

i've been using Aubrey Organics shampoos for a few years now because

it doesn't have Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate as an ingredient. i

think you're gonna laugh at how i chose it--i looked at every single

shampoo at Whole Foods (you'd think Whole Foods would sell only

*organic*, meaning healthy, beauty products, but i have since

learned). now if the bald patches on my scalp would only grow back,

arghhhhh (one of 2 symptoms i have left to contend with)!

>

> I have been told that I have MCS. The Environmental Health Department

> told me they tested for sulfites in the water which was negative but

> not sulfur even though the bath water smells like rotten eggs and

> tastes terrible. How is volatile sulfur different that sulfites? Why

> would they not test for sulfur makes people sick?

>

> Also,one of my triggers is sodium laryl sulfate chemically similar to

> sodium methyl sulfate to cause a reaction? If so, how can they put on

> the label " no laurel/laureth sulfate when it contains methyl sulfate? I

> just bought two products that have methyl sulfate in it thinking it was

> sulfate free! How can methyl sulfate be labeled organic..is it or is it

> not a chemical?

>

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been told that I have MCS. The Environmental Health

Department

> told me they tested for sulfites in the water which was negative

but

> not sulfur even though the bath water smells like rotten eggs and

> tastes terrible. How is volatile sulfur different that sulfites?

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Hi Kim,

Another source of sulfur can be heating oil. I had to call 911 and

flee my rental home last winter in New England because the flu was

faulty and sulfur fumes filled the house just after they filled the

oil tank. I was shocked to learn that the heating fuel was diesel

oil, which has high sulfur content. You can buy dossimeter tubes

from SKC lab supplies and see if there are sulfur fumes in the house

that can be documented to your landlord or the health dept if people

wont listen to you and you have to prove it.

Another issue about sulfur is that it is a building block of the

detoxification system. We take in sulfur from many foods and it is

metabolized into toxic sulfites before turning into more benign

sulfate forms. It is a precursor to glutathion. Folic acid is

sulfur etc.

My EI doc has explored with me my food intolerances and nutritional

deficiencies. I cannot tolerate any foods containing sulfur (e.g.

green veggies) nor can I deal with Vitamin A,even topically (and

that is in a whole lot of shampoos and creams etc). Turns out if

you look at the BRENDA database of enzymes that sulfur and vitamin A

are metabolized with the same enzyme(s). I cannot use supplements

to rectify deficiencies since I have allergic reactions to folic

acid, NAC, amino acids (mostly sulfur based too), glutathion etc.

If I take any, I SMELL of sulfur as well.

Sulfation/methylation defects are implicated in inflammatory states

and as risk factors in cancer development according to the NIH

research.

It may help you with your recent diagnosis, in islolating some of

your detox problems (not everyone has the same problems with

chemical injury/intolerance) which can benefit from supplementation.

Just something to consider... but do test your home for the

chemicals Dr. Thrasher mentioned. You won't manage for very long in

that kind of contamination. Ask a laboratory expert the best way to

assess the air quality, perhaps near your fuel tanks or by a vent

(do you have forced air heating?).

Barb Rubin

[Guest guest]

I wanted to thank all of you who answered my sulfur question. I am

not living in that place anymore but am trying to retrace all of the

environmental conditions that got me to this place for

the " authorities " that are giving me a hard time. Right now, I am

cross-reacting to the chlorine in the city water where I now live(at

least that is what I think it is) because I was exposed to lead dust

a few months ago and started the reaction at about the same time.

My situation is interesting because of the numbers of contaminants I

was exposed to...lead, ammonia, sewage from a CAFO, sulfur,

fertilizer and all the volatiles that come along with it. Dr.

Thrasher gave me some pretty good clues about the sulfur volatiles

because the person that owns the property next door got in some " hot "

water for dumping sewage...although in the end he got a permit to do

so. I am afraid that although he had a permit, other unethical

activities ended up doing something to the groundwater. My

grandmother always made sure I understood the importance of

preserving the wetland in its original state because it was important

to the whole area. The State people have yet to understand the

immediacy of the public health issue, but I keep on trying. It is all

I can do. The problem now is that people are still being exposed and

run the same risk of ending up like me or worse.

Kim

> >

> > I have been told that I have MCS. The Environmental Health

> Department

> > told me they tested for sulfites in the water which was negative

> but

> > not sulfur even though the bath water smells like rotten eggs and

> > tastes terrible. How is volatile sulfur different that sulfites?

> =====================================================

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> Another source of sulfur can be heating oil. I had to call 911 and

> flee my rental home last winter in New England because the flu was

> faulty and sulfur fumes filled the house just after they filled the

> oil tank. I was shocked to learn that the heating fuel was diesel

> oil, which has high sulfur content. You can buy dossimeter tubes

> from SKC lab supplies and see if there are sulfur fumes in the

house

> that can be documented to your landlord or the health dept if

people

> wont listen to you and you have to prove it.

>

> Another issue about sulfur is that it is a building block of the

> detoxification system. We take in sulfur from many foods and it is

> metabolized into toxic sulfites before turning into more benign

> sulfate forms. It is a precursor to glutathion. Folic acid is

> sulfur etc.

>

> My EI doc has explored with me my food intolerances and nutritional

> deficiencies. I cannot tolerate any foods containing sulfur (e.g.

> green veggies) nor can I deal with Vitamin A,even topically (and

> that is in a whole lot of shampoos and creams etc). Turns out if

> you look at the BRENDA database of enzymes that sulfur and vitamin

A

> are metabolized with the same enzyme(s). I cannot use supplements

> to rectify deficiencies since I have allergic reactions to folic

> acid, NAC, amino acids (mostly sulfur based too), glutathion etc.

> If I take any, I SMELL of sulfur as well.

>

> Sulfation/methylation defects are implicated in inflammatory states

> and as risk factors in cancer development according to the NIH

> research.

>

> It may help you with your recent diagnosis, in islolating some of

> your detox problems (not everyone has the same problems with

> chemical injury/intolerance) which can benefit from supplementation.

>

> Just something to consider... but do test your home for the

> chemicals Dr. Thrasher mentioned. You won't manage for very long in

> that kind of contamination. Ask a laboratory expert the best way

to

> assess the air quality, perhaps near your fuel tanks or by a vent

> (do you have forced air heating?).

>

> Barb Rubin

>