Re: Chamber of Commerce relocates due to mold, employees sick!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Isn't this funny.I thought they said at one time toxic mold was all

hype.Boy, didn't that come back and bite them in you know where.

" We have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

Maybe someone should inform them also that are friendly physicians

at the Texas Medical Board are harrassing one of the top

environmental doctors, at the point of having his license removed.

Wouldn't that be a wasted trip at taxpayers expense. All of a sudden

now our doctors are the best for treatment at our cost, but are we

supposed to do? The feds aren't paying for my medical bills, but the

taxpayers are supposed to pay for theirs. What's wrong with this

picture. Correct me if I'm wrong. Definately a double standard.

Where did they get their information from? I thought they were only

allergens that caused mild symptoms and upper respirtatory!

How interesting, it's hype when it comes to the general public, but

when it's their own it's an emergency... RUN.......

KC

>

>

> Guess the their headquarters in DC forgot to tell them that:

> Thus the notion that ˜toxic mold™ is an insidious secret ˜killer™

as the many media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ˜Junk

Science’ unsupported

> by actual scientific study.â€

>

> US Chamber of Commerce/Center for Legal Policy -Manhattan

Institute Mold

> Statement

> “Center for Legal Policy is a leading voice for reform of

America’s civil

> justice system.†according to their website. A Scientific View

of the Health

> Effects of Mold

> Hardin, PhD, Saxon MD, Correen Robbins, PhD, CIH

and Bruce J.

> Kelman, Ph.D., DABT

> Chamber relocates due to mold

>

> (Updated: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28 AM CST) ,

Madison

> Record

>

> The Madison Chamber of Commerce has a new home-temporarily.

>

> The Chamber was forced out of its office in downtown Madison in

June of this

> year due to mold contamination.

>

> The Chamber's new temporary office is in Madison West Office Park

on Lime

> Quarry Road, just behind the Burger King on Highway 20. The new

office is fully

> operational as of Nov. 5.

>

> The Chamber expects to have a brand new office in the new Madison

YMCA,

> which hopes to break ground next year. The Y is donating an

office to the

> Chamber, as well as the Volunteer Center of Madison County, said

Chamber Managing

> Director Sallie Wagner.

>

> The Chamber staff suffered numerous physical symptoms because of

the mold,

> Wagner said.

>

> " The staff had high levels of black mold in their systems, " she

said. " We

> have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

>

> After the discovery of the toxic mold, a company was hired to

clean the

> building by the city, which owns it. The Chamber leased the

property from the

> city.

>

> The company, Envirosafe, came in and cleaned the ductwork,

replaced the A/C

> units and cleaned the floors in July, Wagner said. When a

toxicologist came

> back after cleaning and discovered there was still black mold

there, the

> Chamber board decided it was time to relocate.

>

> Madison Mayor Sandy Kirkindall said that after cleaning, the

building is OK.

>

> " The mold remediation has been completed, and the building is

ready for

> occupancy, " he said.

>

> Kirkindall added that no decision has been made as to what to do

with the

> property now that the Chamber has moved out.

>

> " I personally would like to see a business in there that would

generate

> sales tax revenue for the City, " he said.

>

> The Chamber had to operate without its office from June to

November of 2007.

> As many operations as possible were performed from home, Wagner

said. Office

> hours at the new Lime Quarry Road facility are 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.,

Monday

> through Friday.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's new at

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> " We have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

Maybe when they get to Dallas they'll get a psych diagnosis for being

delusional.

[Guest guest]

I know what, lets throw a lemon in a bicket and than deside if it's

plasable for them to get sick from toxic mold in their environment or

not.

>

>

> >

> > " We have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

> Maybe when they get to Dallas they'll get a psych diagnosis for being

> delusional.

>

[Guest guest]

On 11/16/07, Sharon Kramer wrote:

> FF,

>

>

> Something tells me the US Chamber has not yet felt the

> personal impact of this situation. While we are pleased that

> the injured workers of the Madison Chamber are receiving

> proper care from the environmental physicians in Texas,

which

> I would assume is either Dr. Rea or Dr. , many are

> disturbed and angered by this story.

>

> One of the primary reasons the physicians are not trained

how

> to treat these illnesses rests on the shoulders of the US

> Chamber of Commerce. In 2003, they paid $40,000 to a

> corporation that does expert witnessing for the defense in

> mold litigation for the purpose of writing a position paper

> meant to set national policy as to the understanding of mold

> induced illnesses.

>

> The paper was entitled, " A Scientific View of the Health

> Effects of Mold, Hardin, PhD, Saxon MD, Correen

> Robbins, PhD, CIH and Bruce J. Kelman, Ph.D., DABT.

>

> It was commissioned by the US Chamber of Commerce/Center for

> Legal Policy in conjunction with the think-tank, the

> Manhattan Institute.

>

>

>

> The ending sentence of the " scientific paper " states:

>

> " Thus the notion that `toxic mold' is an insidious

> secret `killer' as so many media reports and trial lawyers

> would claim is `Junk Science' unsupported by actual

> scientific study. "

>

> It was then promoted in a fanfare conference, July 17, 2003,

> to stakeholders of moldy buildings, such as the real estate,

> building, mortgage and insurance industries. It's purpose

was

> to limit financial liability for the ever increasing

> illnesses caused by new construction standards that caused

> buildings to become moldy easily. The purpose was to make it

> more difficult to prove the mold causes illness in order to

> defeat liability for stakeholders of moldy buildings.

>

> This paper was actually the marketing aspect of a two prong

> process. First, a medical association allowed this same risk

> management corporation, VeriTox, to author a paper

> claiming " not plausible " to be their position on the matter.

> This paper has been highly controversial as the authors

> applied math calculations to a single rodent study and

> concluded humans do not become severely ill from mold toxins

> found within water damaged buildings. This is not now, or

> has it ever been accepted scientific methology. Its a non-

> sequitur where the premise does not fit the conclusion. Yet,

> it too, has been used extensively in litigation for the

> purpose of denying proof of causation, and therefore

limiting

> building stakeholders'financial responsibility to the ill.

>

> So it is insidious that the US Chamber would promote such a

> concept that has negatively impacted the lives of thousands,

> but when it is one of their own, the illnesses are real and

> deserve proper medical treatment. It is ironic that the

> Chamber must fly their ill to Texas for treatment because

> there are so few doctors trained. The reason there are so

few

> doctors trained, rests largely on the shoulders of the

> Chamber of Commerce. The double standard of denying illness

> and causing the limiting of care in thousands, while

> acknowledging illness and moving to have them properly

> treated when it is one of their own is literally sickening.

>

> Sharon

http://toxlaw.com/chatboards/blackmold/topic1524/11.16.07.08.21.09.ht

ml

>

>

> Guess the their headquarters in DC forgot to tell them that:

> “Thus the notion that ‘toxic mold’ is an insidious secret

‘killer’ as so

> many

> media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ‘Junk Science’

unsupported

> by actual scientific study.â€

>

> US Chamber of Commerce/Center for Legal Policy -Manhattan

Institute Mold

> Statement

> “Center for Legal Policy is a leading voice for reform of

America’s civil

> justice system.†according to their website. A Scientific View

of the Health

> Effects of Mold

> Hardin, PhD, Saxon MD, Correen Robbins, PhD, CIH

and Bruce J.

> Kelman, Ph.D., DABT

> Chamber relocates due to mold

>

> (Updated: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28 AM CST) ,

Madison

> Record

>

> The Madison Chamber of Commerce has a new home-temporarily.

>

> The Chamber was forced out of its office in downtown Madison in

June of this

> year due to mold contamination.

>

> The Chamber's new temporary office is in Madison West Office Park

on Lime

> Quarry Road, just behind the Burger King on Highway 20. The new

office is fully

> operational as of Nov. 5.

>

> The Chamber expects to have a brand new office in the new Madison

YMCA,

> which hopes to break ground next year. The Y is donating an

office to the

> Chamber, as well as the Volunteer Center of Madison County, said

Chamber Managing

> Director Sallie Wagner.

>

> The Chamber staff suffered numerous physical symptoms because of

the mold,

> Wagner said.

>

> " The staff had high levels of black mold in their systems, " she

said. " We

> have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

>

> After the discovery of the toxic mold, a company was hired to

clean the

> building by the city, which owns it. The Chamber leased the

property from the

> city.

>

> The company, Envirosafe, came in and cleaned the ductwork,

replaced the A/C

> units and cleaned the floors in July, Wagner said. When a

toxicologist came

> back after cleaning and discovered there was still black mold

there, the

> Chamber board decided it was time to relocate.

>

> Madison Mayor Sandy Kirkindall said that after cleaning, the

building is OK.

>

> " The mold remediation has been completed, and the building is

ready for

> occupancy, " he said.

>

> Kirkindall added that no decision has been made as to what to do

with the

> property now that the Chamber has moved out.

>

> " I personally would like to see a business in there that would

generate

> sales tax revenue for the City, " he said.

>

> The Chamber had to operate without its office from June to

November of 2007.

> As many operations as possible were performed from home, Wagner

said. Office

> hours at the new Lime Quarry Road facility are 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.,

Monday

> through Friday.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's new at

http://www.aol.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

GOT A PHONE NUMBER? I'M ABOUT TO CALL THEM AND TELL THEM I'D LIKE TO

GET TO DALLAS MYSELF.

> >

> >

> > Guess the their headquarters in DC forgot to tell them that:

> > “Thus the notion that ‘toxic mold’ is an insidious secret

> ‘killer’ as so

> > many

> > media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ‘Junk

Science’

> unsupported

> > by actual scientific study.â€

> >

> > US Chamber of Commerce/Center for Legal Policy -Manhattan

> Institute Mold

> > Statement

> > “Center for Legal Policy is a leading voice for reform of

> America’s civil

> > justice system.†according to their website. A Scientific View

> of the Health

> > Effects of Mold

> > Hardin, PhD, Saxon MD, Correen Robbins, PhD, CIH

> and Bruce J.

> > Kelman, Ph.D., DABT

> > Chamber relocates due to mold

> >

> > (Updated: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28 AM CST) ,

> Madison

> > Record

> >

> > The Madison Chamber of Commerce has a new home-temporarily.

> >

> > The Chamber was forced out of its office in downtown Madison in

> June of this

> > year due to mold contamination.

> >

> > The Chamber's new temporary office is in Madison West Office

Park

> on Lime

> > Quarry Road, just behind the Burger King on Highway 20. The new

> office is fully

> > operational as of Nov. 5.

> >

> > The Chamber expects to have a brand new office in the new

Madison

> YMCA,

> > which hopes to break ground next year. The Y is donating an

> office to the

> > Chamber, as well as the Volunteer Center of Madison County, said

> Chamber Managing

> > Director Sallie Wagner.

> >

> > The Chamber staff suffered numerous physical symptoms because of

> the mold,

> > Wagner said.

> >

> > " The staff had high levels of black mold in their systems, " she

> said. " We

> > have to be flown to Dallas for treatment. "

> >

> > After the discovery of the toxic mold, a company was hired to

> clean the

> > building by the city, which owns it. The Chamber leased the

> property from the

> > city.

> >

> > The company, Envirosafe, came in and cleaned the ductwork,

> replaced the A/C

> > units and cleaned the floors in July, Wagner said. When a

> toxicologist came

> > back after cleaning and discovered there was still black mold

> there, the

> > Chamber board decided it was time to relocate.

> >

> > Madison Mayor Sandy Kirkindall said that after cleaning, the

> building is OK.

> >

> > " The mold remediation has been completed, and the building is

> ready for

> > occupancy, " he said.

> >

> > Kirkindall added that no decision has been made as to what to do

> with the

> > property now that the Chamber has moved out.

> >

> > " I personally would like to see a business in there that would

> generate

> > sales tax revenue for the City, " he said.

> >

> > The Chamber had to operate without its office from June to

> November of 2007.

> > As many operations as possible were performed from home, Wagner

> said. Office

> > hours at the new Lime Quarry Road facility are 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.,

> Monday

> > through Friday.

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com

> >

> >

> >