Re: Where did it come from?

February 21, 2000

Margaret,

Oh, ok. I didn't know that. Thanks for the

information.

Mona

--- Ramu555@... wrote:

> In a message dated 02/13/2000 5:31:26 AM Eastern

> Standard Time, Mona writes:

>

> > I'm wondering how do people get candida? Is it

> spread

> > from one person to another, is genetic, or ???

> I'm

> > wondering because I'm adopted and my younger

> brother

> > is my adoptive parents biological child.

>

> You can get candidiasis all by yourself. Can't blame

> anyone. Candida albicans

> is native to the digestive tract (bowel, to be

> exact). If you take

> antibiotics, for example, you kill off the gut

> flora, both friendly and

> not-so, and candida is usually the first one back,

> meaning that it has the

> whole place to itself and can multiply freely.

> Then, it can spread from the bowel throughout the

> system, either through the

> blood or via leaky gut.

> Once you have it, you can, of course, share it with

> your husband and other

> family members, but, then, they could get it by

> themselves too. If we

> consider that an estimated 85% of Americans have

> this problem, it is probably

> not something everyone shared back and forth, i.e.,

> it is not contagious to

> the point that you could feel safe pointing a

> finger.

> No it is not genetic.

>

> Blessngs

> Margaret

> You must be the change you wish to see in the world.

> http://www.angelfire.com/mb/manifestnow/home.html

>

__________________________________________________

February 21, 2000

Ramona About ten years ago all hospitals in the U.S. went on a

cleaning rage ordered by the government. The way I knew about the

ordered cleaning was I was a Fireman / paramedic at the time and the

cleaning process was setting off the fire alarms at the hospitals. The

rate of postoperative infection by fungus had risen to 25% of all

operations according to CDC (center for diease control), and they were

concerned with this rise. In an attempt to halt the rise of infection

rate the cleaning of hospitals was ordered. The cleaning process was

halted when it was discovered that the fungus infections were all the

same in a family, and were particular for that family. In other words

the fungus infection was already in the patient before the operation, and

no amount of hospital cleaning would affect the fungus infections.

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May 4, 2000

ltldab,

Oh, ok. Thanks for the information.

Mona

--- ltldab1@... wrote:

> Ramona About ten years ago all hospitals in the

> U.S. went on a

> cleaning rage ordered by the government. The way I

> knew about the

> ordered cleaning was I was a Fireman / paramedic at

> the time and the

> cleaning process was setting off the fire alarms at

> the hospitals. The

> rate of postoperative infection by fungus had risen

> to 25% of all

> operations according to CDC (center for diease

> control), and they were

> concerned with this rise. In an attempt to halt

> the rise of infection

> rate the cleaning of hospitals was ordered. The

> cleaning process was

> halted when it was discovered that the fungus

> infections were all the

> same in a family, and were particular for that

> family. In other words

> the fungus infection was already in the patient

> before the operation, and

> no amount of hospital cleaning would affect the

> fungus infections.

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822

> From: Ramona Bates <_el@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:51:13 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: where did it come from?

> Reply-to: candidiasisonelist

>

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Ramona Bates & lt;_el@... & gt;</tt>

<tt>

Margaret,

Oh, ok. & nbsp; I didn't know that. & nbsp; Thanks for

the

information.

Mona

--- Ramu555@... wrote:

& gt; In a message dated 02/13/2000 5:31:26 AM

Eastern

& gt; Standard Time, Mona writes:

& gt; & nbsp;

& gt; & gt; & nbsp; I'm wondering how do people get

candida? & nbsp; Is it

& gt; spread

& gt; & gt; & nbsp; from one person to another, is

genetic, or ???

& gt; I'm

& gt; & gt; & nbsp; wondering because I'm adopted and my

younger

& gt; brother

& gt; & gt; & nbsp; is my adoptive parents biological

child.

& gt;

& gt; You can get candidiasis all by yourself. Can't

blame

& gt; anyone. Candida albicans

& gt; is native to the digestive tract (bowel, to

be

& gt; exact). & nbsp; If you take

& gt; antibiotics, for example, you kill off the

gut

& gt; flora, both friendly and

& gt; not-so, and candida is usually the first one

back,

& gt; meaning that it has the

& gt; whole place to itself and can multiply

freely.

& gt; Then, it can spread from the bowel throughout

the

& gt; system, either through the

& gt; blood or via leaky gut.

& gt; Once you have it, you can, of course, share it

with

& gt; your husband and other

& gt; family members, but, then, they could get it

by

& gt; themselves too. If we

& gt; consider that an estimated 85% of Americans

have

& gt; this problem, it is probably

& gt; not something everyone shared back and

forth, & nbsp; i.e.,

& gt; it is not contagious to

& gt; the point that you could feel safe pointing a

& gt; finger.

& gt; No it is not genetic.

& gt;

& gt; Blessngs

& gt; Margaret

& gt; You must be the change you wish to see in the

world.

& gt; <a

href= " http://www.angelfire.com/mb/manifestnow/home.html " >http://www.angelfire.co\

m/mb/manifestnow/home.html</a>

& gt;

__________________________________________________

October 22, 2007

Betsy,

Fungi and their toxins have been around for centuries. Vicki put on

the board last week what chapters in the bible that they speak of

it. The reason why you hear more about it now is because of the

internet. People are able to compare notes concerning what has been

happening to them, research information, etc. Many of the research

papers that have been posted here are back in the 70's, 80's and

much, much earlier. Also we have more and more people yelling on the

top of their lungs about the cause and affects of these toxins.

Digestion of toxins have been studied for decades, we are still

fighting the inhalation aspect of it.

Doctors, scientists, etc., have know about these illnesses for a

long time. Unfortunately when antibodics were started to put pushed

in great numbers as the " magic pill " they stopped training doctors

on the effects of mycotoxins. Example of: Back in the

chemo/radiation treatment was first started it's orginal name

was, " Antifungal chemotherapy-radiation treatment. " (I can't

remember the exact date it was either in the late 1800's or early

1900's.)

Unfortunately, it has already spiraled out of control. We are trying

to stop it from continuing.

KC

--- In , Sinkey <westoo@...>

wrote:

>

> I have questions I've never seen brought up yet. Where did toxic

mold come from? When did it start? Toxic mold (as far as I know)

was unheard of until the latter part of the 1990's. My husband is

dead. I am in a wheelchair. The same holds true for many, many

other toxic mold victims. What is going on? I have heard that

there are biochemical warfare laboratories in many major cities and

their quality control and safety protocols are inadequate. Another

thought is that newer building materials sacrifice biocompatiblity

for economic gain or convenience of use for the builders. We could

come up with a wealth of conspiracy theories here as well but some

solid answers would be preferable. Why aren't the mainstream

medical and environmental authorities taking this seriously yet?

Unless someone comes up with some answers and solutions, many lives

will be ruined and toxic mold may spiral past the point of control.

> Betsy

>

October 25, 2007

I was first sickened by toxic mold in 1991, from outdoor cushions

that were black inside. the cushions had never been inside and were

from the 40's. Looking back I remember migraines and arthritis after

our city loft had a major pipe break in the late 70's. I think mold

toxin has been around forever-insulated tight houses make it worse,

plumbing makes it worse.

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