Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 > > Hi Folks: I was wondering if any of you that are mold patients get > small open sores on your scalp when you are exposed to mold or > mycotoxins? I have recently moved and wanted to know if this was a mold > symptom or bacterial. Anyone have these sores and if so, what did you > do for them and were they from mold or bacteria? I have had outbreaks in the scalp and around the hairline since exposure. Sometimes they have pus and sometimes they are like hard boils. During the first year post exposure I had them regularly around my eyes as well. A month of doxycycline got rid of the eye boils. An opthamologist said they looked like MRSA boils that he removed in the hospital. You might ask you doctor to culture them. I do have open sores which take a long time to heal in my nasal cavity when I'm accidently re exposed to mold. That is predictable with me. Thus I must practice avoidance diligently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Olux - a prescription scalp foam and/or apple cider vinegar is the only thing that helped me with scalp sores. --- In , " dianebolton52 " <dianebolton@...> wrote: > > Hi Folks: I was wondering if any of you that are mold patients get > small open sores on your scalp when you are exposed to mold or > mycotoxins? I have recently moved and wanted to know if this was a mold > symptom or bacterial. Anyone have these sores and if so, what did you > do for them and were they from mold or bacteria? Thanks. Diane Bolton > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Nizarol 1% Shampoo. Lather all of body Head to toe and let it sit at least 4min. You can take a black light to see if you glow. Mold Glows. moldcankill <moldcankill@...> wrote: Olux - a prescription scalp foam and/or apple cider vinegar is the only thing that helped me with scalp sores. > > Hi Folks: I was wondering if any of you that are mold patients get > small open sores on your scalp when you are exposed to mold or > mycotoxins? I have recently moved and wanted to know if this was a mold > symptom or bacterial. Anyone have these sores and if so, what did you > do for them and were they from mold or bacteria? Thanks. Diane Bolton > --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I have in the past but rarely had this. I have always associated it with mold expousure but believe it to be nuerological. It resembles sciatica but instead of soft burning spots on your legs and feet it's in your head, throat, ears, and scalp. And moves around similarly as was my experience with sciatica which started on the private areas and moved all the way down to my feet where my shoes felt as if they were too tight when in fact I didn't even have them tied at all. I've had the cerebral palsy symptoms others have mentioned here which were actually what broke me of my denial that my house had anything to do with my illness. I flew out to arizona for a week and wasn't exposed to any mold and when I came back the contrast was so evident I could no longer deney it. My thinking obviously is the palsy symptoms also are neurological. My best theory to the soft spots on the scalp is a secondary virus or herpes like infection that is attacking the Trigeminal nerve and creating these symptoms. Cerebral palsy symptoms clear up rapidly upon removing myself from the mold so I would think this is some type of trama on the brain, maybe the mold is making it from the lungs somehow to the brain, probably what ever mechanism creates the fog and confusion is most likely at work here also. Don't know weather mold getting to the brain from the lungs is even possible so this is pure speculation on my part. Also the soft spots on the head could be mold attaking the Trigeminal nerve. I have never had any visible infectinon to indicate anything other than nerve damage of some type. n Dec 8, 2007 2:23 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > I get them too, more on the top of my head when a sinus infection goes > to my brain and more in the sides and back part of my head when it > comes from a lung or kidney infection that goes across my sholders and > up the back of my neck into my head. they put out heat and I think you > can find some info. by looking under hot spots,brain infection,ect. > mine doesn't cause pus to come out of my head, but it often leaves the > roots of my hair felling like their coated with wax and my head gets > very tender. it's made me wonder if when sometimes when kids wont even > let you brush their hair because they say it hurts, if theres a reason > why. > > > > > Scalp and skin sores are not unusual following mold exposure. I > recommend a biopsy of the lesion(s) be done and tested for mold DNA and > mycotoxins as well as bacteria cultures. Once a diagnosis is done, > then treatment can be recommended. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hi ,hope your doing good. if I renenber rught the scalp sores may be from infection and damage to the menningis, which could be toxic,fungal,bacterial or viral. I spent some time researcing how ling and kidney infections can go into the sponal cord and with seapage or BBB breakdown,into the cns/brain. mycotoxins can also go straight through the nose to the brain. if I understand right a sinus infection may be more apt to go into the menningis covering the top of the brain and may involved breakdown of the archnoid villa thats at the top back of the head area, while cns/spinal cord infection would be more involved with the breakdown of the BBB and a vasculitis type effects(leaking blood vessals), also going straight into the limbic system. lol's that made my brain hurt. and I'm sure it's a little more complacated than that but maybe someone can elaborate or correct me if I did explain it right, I just cant get to elaborate without putting in alot of effort and going back and refreshing my memory.. in > > > > > > Scalp and skin sores are not unusual following mold exposure. I > > recommend a biopsy of the lesion(s) be done and tested for mold DNA and > > mycotoxins as well as bacteria cultures. Once a diagnosis is done, > > then treatment can be recommended. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 and see, the first post hasn't came up but I alreadu tralized I left out that the menningis also cover the sponal cords, I think it's the layer in the menningis called dura or durma, something like that that gets damaged and actually can lead to the archnoid villa leakage and/or breakdown causeing intercranial pressure and csf leaks. > > > > > > Scalp and skin sores are not unusual following mold exposure. I > > recommend a biopsy of the lesion(s) be done and tested for mold DNA and > > mycotoxins as well as bacteria cultures. Once a diagnosis is done, > > then treatment can be recommended. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 well, nevermond, maybe I'll try again tomarroe. sorry wasn't giving it my full attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 scalp sores may be from infection and damage to the menningis, which could be toxic,fungal,bacterial or viral. lung infection/toxicity can also go strainght into the cns. a sinus infection may go into the menningis covering the top of the brain. the menningis also cover the spinal cords, dura layer in the menningis gets damaged and can cause leakage of csf and/or intercranial pressure causeing breakdown of archnoid villa,swelling and csf leaks. mycotoxins can also go straight through the nose to the brain,damageing the nasal roof and olfactory system and amygadila in the limbic system and cause brain toxicity and infection.damage to nasal roof and olfactory bulbs and tract areas allow other toxins to pass to the brain more easily. lung infections/toxicity can also get into the blood stream and go into the spinal cord and throughout the body causeing vasculitis (seapage of blood from vessals into tissues) and/or BBB breakdown. seapage into the brain from BBB or breakdown results in toxicity/infection in the limbic system and blood vessal leakage in the white and gray matter and may further damage cranial nerves. this is a little better. sorry, it seems I have some brain damage that could maybe be considered kind of deslexic like thatseems to be peranent as its constant and has nothing to do with exposure effects. so anyway, I have a problem explaining verbaly or in writeing things. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 > > Hi Jeanine, > Good is kind of a realitive term. Still pretty sick but it's like a vacation here since the air conditioner shut off. Hope your doing good also in a relative kind of way anyways. My symptoms are probably different than many here. I think the reason why I associate my symptoms with nearve damage is becuase the soft or soar areas are so transiant, they move around, from the mouth to the throat, to the ear, to the scalp in a realitivly short period of time. It really resembels sciatica in a lot of ways. Like sciatica if you relieve the pressure from the nearves the pain goes away in a few days and their is no permanant nerve damage. Just pain from the trauma. The scalp episodes last a week or so. Herpes infections are about this same length, just a theory, I actually saw a dr years ago that believed in this and gave me some viral medication not for the head soars but for chronic fatigue which is what i thought I had at the time to no avail I might add. The pins and needles on the face or cerebral palsy like symptoms (very different) were even more fleeting, they would disappear within an hour or so of leaving my house. So I assosiate this with an inflamotory reaction of some type. I'm not real big on the mycotoxins but they would make much more sense than an infection. (for me anyways) Unless of course the mold just induced the inflamotory reaction which is what I believe, similar to what pollen does to common allergey sufferes, the reaction swings up and down and are closly tied to expousure and relief comes realitivly quickly when you control the expousure. It's all speculation on my part, just trying to understand this illness so maybe one day I can prove it somehow, and force those that would just assune ignore us to face the music that they can't keep playing this propaganda and denial game forever. > . > > > <quote> Hi ,hope your doing good. if I renenber rught the scalp sores may be from infection and damage to the menningis, which could be toxic,fungal,bacterial or viral. I spent some time researcing how ling and kidney infections can go into the sponal cord and with <quote> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 being homeless and haveing your health would be much better than haveing lost your health. at least send those kids packing to anywhere thats safe, who cares what they think. if you cant be there without air cleaners running, you shouldn't be there at all. I wouldn't take those sinus infection to lightly either. do you understand the damage that toxins can do to your airways? what are the air cleaners really doing? keeping it all stired up and exposing you to higher doses when you change the filters. after awhile all they are is mold and toxin factories. not good. > > > > > > Hi Folks: I was wondering if any of you that are mold patients get > > > small open sores on your scalp when you are exposed to mold or > > > mycotoxins? I have recently moved and wanted to know if this was a > > mold > > > symptom or bacterial. Anyone have these sores and if so, what did you > > > do for them and were they from mold or bacteria? Thanks. Diane > > Bolton > > > > > Hello! > > > > I have been getting sores since my exposure. I am now currently on > > medications for fungal infections in my blood/body. They really came > > out when i did a detox diet a friend who does accupuncture and > > practices homeopathics. My doctor treating me for fungus is an ENT and > > has prescribed an ointment for Impetigo, the generic name is Mupirocin > > 2% ointment which helps. It is embarrassing because the sores are > > everywhere and I think people think it is like that of a drug addict, > > maybe it's just me, I have never had problem with skin, not even in my > > teens. I am told it is a way for the toxins to escape, as they get in > > first thru nose, then ears, eyes, skin! Good luck > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 , veen iced in here for about a week. dreaded turning in heat because of sinuses but my body couldn't take the cold any longer. wasn't tp bad after I ran it awhile with the window open and a fan blowing out the burn off smell. allergies and mycosis can both cause inflamation and infection and with mcs and/or other damaged organs/airways exposures to toxins, myco's or others can also cause inflamation and infections. the nerve damage is from toxins distroying the protective shealths/sleaves and matter protecting the nerve endings. weather trigiminal,cranial/cns or pns. > > > > > Hi Jeanine, > > > Good is kind of a realitive term. Still pretty sick but it's like a vacation > here since the air conditioner shut off. Hope your doing good also in a > relative kind of way anyways. > My symptoms are probably different than many here. > I think the reason why I associate my symptoms with nearve damage is becuase > the soft or soar areas are so transiant, they move around, from the mouth to > the throat, to the ear, to the scalp in a realitivly short period of time. > > It really resembels sciatica in a lot of ways. Like sciatica if you relieve > the pressure from the nearves the pain goes away in a few days and their is > no permanant nerve damage. Just pain from the trauma. The scalp episodes > last a week or so. Herpes infections are about this same length, just a > theory, I actually saw a dr years ago that believed in this and gave me some > viral medication not for the head soars but for chronic fatigue which is > what i thought I had at the time to no avail I might add. > > The pins and needles on the face or cerebral palsy like symptoms (very > different) were even more fleeting, they would disappear within an hour or > so of leaving my house. So I assosiate this with an inflamotory reaction of > some type. I'm not real big on the mycotoxins but they would make much more > sense than an infection. (for me anyways) Unless of course the mold just > induced the inflamotory reaction which is what I believe, similar to what > pollen does to common allergey sufferes, the reaction swings up and down and > are closly tied to expousure and relief comes realitivly quickly when you > control the expousure. > > It's all speculation on my part, just trying to understand this illness so > maybe one day I can prove it somehow, and force those that would just assune > ignore us to face the music that they can't keep playing this propaganda and > denial game forever. > > > > > . > > > > > > > <quote> > Hi ,hope your doing good. if I renenber rught the scalp sores > may be from infection and damage to the menningis, which could be > toxic,fungal,bacterial or viral. I spent some time researcing how > ling and kidney infections can go into the sponal cord and with <quote> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and just find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep the house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate any wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that is used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that painting it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like me. On Dec 12, 2007 1:52 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > , veen iced in here for about a week. dreaded turning in heat > because of sinuses but my body couldn't take the cold any longer. > wasn't tp bad after I ran it awhile with the window open and a fan > blowing out the burn off smell. allergies and mycosis can both cause > inflamation and infection and with mcs and/or other damaged > organs/airways exposures to toxins, myco's or others can also cause > inflamation and infections. > the nerve damage is from toxins distroying the protective > shealths/sleaves and matter protecting the nerve endings. weather > trigiminal,cranial/cns or pns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 It's been my experience that if I react to a place nothing I can do will improve this, not air filters, or any type of remediation. (I've tried all this) It's also been my experience that no acquaintances, family, or friends react in any way the same as I but many friends acquaintances and even family members have said they did for one reason or another. The difference between them and me is their leading normal lives, working, hobbies, social lives because their generally healthy as opposed to me, in which despite moving many times and trying a multitude of different things like living in tent's and underneath carports, my life has been varying degrees of hell and the luxury of being able to work and have hobby's and have a social life are not possible because of what my illness has taken from me. The fact is people have been living in my old home without incident for almost 5 years now. I can only surmise it wasn't so much my home that was sick it was, is, infact me and the way I react to mold is not normal. If it was possible to do the math I believe you would find that there are millions of homes as bad as mine with millions of people living in them and without any of the symptoms I suffer. I think this is why we are marginalized or discredited by authority's, they do the math in their head and come to this basic conclusion. And surmise we are full of it. We would have a lot more credibility with these people if we insisted they focus on our reactivity to mold and why we react while most others don't. If acoem studied the victims, us, instead of mice they would have never been able to make the conclusions they made about mold and it's relation to illness. I was doing much better when I lived next to my home underneath a carport, but next to this I would suggest to anyone suffering the way I do to find a new house and move into it, one with a porch and moderate privacy. The likelihood is mold exposures will be much less in these types of situations. I am looking into finding a situation where I can move out west and live in a metal structure to see if I can gain back more of my health, closer to where I was 5 years ago living under the carport. I am currently in a 2 year old house and still pretty ill. So this by far is not the panacea for severe mold reactors like myself, although lessor reactors might fair much better in situations such as mine. On Dec 11, 2007 10:53 PM, Olin <legal.winner@...> wrote: > Yes, I have been experiencing some head sores too. I recently had to > move > back into my moldy home. It was that or be homeless, as the insurance > company stopped paying for my hotel stay. I had some workmen paint the > whole inside of my home with Kilz2 paint, wash down all the walls and > shampood the carpets with Young Living's Theives Oil Household Cleaner, > replaced the capet in my bedroom with new, very low pile carpeting and I > have been running air cleaners throughout my home. I got a sinus infection > and sores on my head when I turned off the air cleaner in the bedroom to > change the filter. I just realized that correlation between turning off > the > air cleaner and the symptoms coming back. My son came to live with me and > he's been having all the same symptoms that I've been having for the past > year, since the pipe broke and caused all this mold. I've tried to tell > him > that the mold causes all these things. But I don't think he believes me. > Or maybe he doesn't want to believe me since there's not much that can be > done right now. Now that the weather is wet and the siding is still off of > > the house and there's still lots of mold underneath the home... we can't > begin to clean it underneath until the weather is dryer he says. But I'm > going to find a way! My six-year-old granddaughter, who lives with me, has > > had symptoms all along, when ever I do, because she's exposed when I am. I > really worry about her. Now it's affecting her grades too. We can't afford > professionals but I've done lots of research on how to get rid of it... so > > it's just a matter of doing it as weather permits and as I can afford it. > Well enough rambling about my situation. God bless all of you. You are > always in my prayers. > > In God's Love, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I had a real bad case of scalp sores that began about 4 months ago. Come to find out that my " Free and Clear " Shampoo that says is formulated for sensitive skin and scalp and has no masking fragrance, no lanolin, no formaldehyde, dyes, no protein, and no parabens. But is does have ammonium lareth sulfate.....So technically it is not really for some people that are sensitive...I messed up and thought since it has such an attractive label listing the ingredients it did not have,,,,I failed to check the ingredients on the back and what it does have. Had bouts of these on and off for years --- was told it was atopic dermatitis. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Alaska is not all great, i know I just left. Southeast is bad way to much moisture. I would recommend palmer thou, north of Anchorage. only 12 inches of rain, good mountain dry air. You wouldn't need AC. No Drs,. Food so so if it weren't for the cold I'd be there. a robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and just find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep the house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate any wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that is used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that painting it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hey , I thought of a solution! You could move to Alaska and live in an igloo! ;-D But seriously, I know what you mean. I have a much worse reaction to mold than most others too. It sounds like most of us in this group have that same problem. I think you might have something there with the metal building and there are places where the weather is almost always dry, so mold would be less likely to grow. A beautiful place that is very dry is the foothills of Yosemite (Mariposa, Oakhurst, Bass Lake, Coarsegold, etc.), and they have lots of acerage on their lots where you could put a metal workshop or storage building that could be converted into living quarters. Just a suggestion. God Bless, On Dec 12, 2007 6:54 PM, robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: > Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and > just > find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep the > house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate any > wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that > is > used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that painting > it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like > me. > > > On Dec 12, 2007 1:52 PM, who <jeaninem660@...<jeaninem660%40sbcglobal.net>> > wrote: > > > , veen iced in here for about a week. dreaded turning in heat > > because of sinuses but my body couldn't take the cold any longer. > > wasn't tp bad after I ran it awhile with the window open and a fan > > blowing out the burn off smell. allergies and mycosis can both cause > > inflamation and infection and with mcs and/or other damaged > > organs/airways exposures to toxins, myco's or others can also cause > > inflamation and infections. > > the nerve damage is from toxins distroying the protective > > shealths/sleaves and matter protecting the nerve endings. weather > > trigiminal,cranial/cns or pns. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thanks a, I was thinking if I had a mold free environment and kept the windows shut than I could control my expousure. If I move out west I am going to have to run an ac which is big trouble for me. Although I am guessing there is much less ambient outside mold so I would do better there otherwise. On Dec 12, 2007 11:41 PM, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote: > Alaska is not all great, i know I just left. Southeast is bad way to > much moisture. I would recommend palmer thou, north of Anchorage. only 12 > inches of rain, good mountain dry air. You wouldn't need AC. No Drs,. Food > so so if it weren't for the cold I'd be there. > a > > robert christ <antares4141@... <antares4141%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and just > > find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep the > house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate any > wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that > is > used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that painting > it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like > me. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 >Hey , >I thought of a solution! You could move to Alaska and live in an igloo! Lol! I never thought of this. Guess I am just going to drive out west first and see how I fair to the dry climate. If I could only modify an air conditioning system to cool but not produce mold in the process. This is the biggest problem out their. I have a truck camper I made out of all metal and styrofoam but's it's pretty ugly. Not going to be allowed in rv parks with it. So that's exactly what I want to do is find some place with some acerage where I can rent and just see how well I fair. A all metal building on a cement slab would be the next logical step. One that has no hidden spaces where moisture can form and make mold, that or one where these areas can be exposed and inspected regularly. Still looking for someone that want's to pool resources towards this end. I guess I have to find something that works first though. On Dec 12, 2007 11:57 PM, Olin <legal.winner@...> wrote: > Hey , > I thought of a solution! You could move to Alaska and live in an igloo! > ;-D But seriously, I know what you mean. I have a much worse reaction to > mold than most others too. It sounds like most of us in this group have > that same problem. I think you might have something there with the metal > building and there are places where the weather is almost always dry, so > mold would be less likely to grow. A beautiful place that is very dry is > the foothills of Yosemite (Mariposa, Oakhurst, Bass Lake, Coarsegold, > etc.), > and they have lots of acerage on their lots where you could put a metal > workshop or storage building that could be converted into living quarters. > Just a suggestion. > > God Bless, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thats the problem people keep there windows shut. Open them up as much as possible. robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: Thanks a, I was thinking if I had a mold free environment and kept the windows shut than I could control my expousure. If I move out west I am going to have to run an ac which is big trouble for me. Although I am guessing there is much less ambient outside mold so I would do better there otherwise. On Dec 12, 2007 11:41 PM, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote: > Alaska is not all great, i know I just left. Southeast is bad way to > much moisture. I would recommend palmer thou, north of Anchorage. only 12 > inches of rain, good mountain dry air. You wouldn't need AC. No Drs,. Food > so so if it weren't for the cold I'd be there. > a > > robert christ <antares4141@... <antares4141%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and just > > find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep the > house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate any > wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that > is > used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that painting > it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like > me. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 My current thinking on this issue is it's a doubled edged sword. If your in a mold free building, one made of all metal or some similar material and no wood, my theory is that closing the windows would actually be better. The thinking is that you would be keeping out the outside ambient levels of mold and because your building material isn't infected with it you will be reducing your exposure as opposed to incresing it as is typical in ordinary housing. I got this idea from an MD that specialized in allergies but he was just refering to pollen and doing this in ordinary housing which would as you imply isn't a good idea. On Dec 13, 2007 8:55 PM, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote: > Thats the problem people keep there windows shut. Open them up as much > as possible. > > robert christ <antares4141@... <antares4141%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Thanks a, > I was thinking if I had a mold free environment and kept the windows shut > than I could control my expousure. If I move out west I am going to have > to > run an ac which is big trouble for me. Although I am guessing there is > much > less ambient outside mold so I would do better there otherwise. > > > On Dec 12, 2007 11:41 PM, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...<kmtown2003%40>> > wrote: > > > Alaska is not all great, i know I just left. Southeast is bad way to > > much moisture. I would recommend palmer thou, north of Anchorage. only > 12 > > inches of rain, good mountain dry air. You wouldn't need AC. No Drs,. > Food > > so so if it weren't for the cold I'd be there. > > a > > > > robert christ <antares4141@... <antares4141%40gmail.com><antares4141%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and > just > > > > find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep > the > > house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate > any > > wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that > > is > > used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that > painting > > it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 who sayd that metals dont condensate or that molds wont eat and grow on metals? > > > Heat isn't as bad as ac, sometimes I think I should consider alaska and > > just > > > > > > find a new home. That way I wouldn't have to run the ac and could keep > > the > > > house closed to keep out mold. Problem is I don't think I can tolorate > > any > > > wood at all becuase there is always going to be some mold on lumber that > > > is > > > used in construction and I am going to react to it. Might be that > > painting > > > it with that blue stuf they used on home makeover would help people like > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Water forms on metal if the metal is at a lower temperature than the ambient air. Their are other factors such as humidity but generally if the metal is 10 degrees or so cooler than the ambient temp water will condense from vapor in the air onto the metal. Where this would scare me is in situations where you have double skin construction like in airstreams where you have a sheathing of metal on the inside and one on the outside with an inassesable space in between. The camper I made has no metal sheathing, just metal drywall studes. The sheathing is made out of styrofoam and I covered it with bisqueen so it wouldn't leak. It's not pretty but very effective and no mold growing anywhere. Also very easy to inspect, no hidden areas where mold could form without my knowledge. The main reason I abandoned it was because of the location in NC and also the house I was tied to at the hip was killing me. I am hoping to try using the camper out west if I can find a place to park it. On Dec 14, 2007 5:15 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > who sayd that metals dont condensate or that molds wont eat and grow > on metals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 yes, other than just trying it and seeing, I dont know. the air outsude here,several times in the year get's pretty moldy. have to keep windows shut. in winter particles get knocked to the ground from the moisture in the air, but watch out for the plumes of woodstove smoke and car pollution. but out in the country and with electric heat might work. if you go somewhere where its hot and you have to run ac that could be another problem, but if like a said, if you can fet by with just windows open and no moldy outside air, ? but seems metal would really absorb the heat. maybe not if it's dry and you can park in a shady spot. maybe just depends more on if you can tollerate heat or cold more. I cant tolerate much of either anymore. heat just zap's my energy and cold makes me acke all over. boo, I hate it. I really miss me. > > > who sayd that metals dont condensate or that molds wont eat and grow > > on metals? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Who, Don't take my word investigate as I said in my other e-mail Formaldehyde is what causing this I have so many sores all over my body. it's so bad in building that the doors open in and out like stores the bad ac comes out into the air also being spread on grass this is much worse than mold far worse. this also makes you very weak I mean very weak I can relate to all you are saying I say any one having this problem test your AC. it's turn black looking around the AC and green on the trees and water makes my skin look as if I was burned. hope this help also Asthma with the mold long list of things it may take me some time to get back to you I'm ill and need a mold free place to live. I pray I can get my speech done in May and September if not maybe someone hear can go. Thank You all Elvira who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: yes, other than just trying it and seeing, I dont know. the air outsude here,several times in the year get's pretty moldy. have to keep windows shut. in winter particles get knocked to the ground from the moisture in the air, but watch out for the plumes of woodstove smoke and car pollution. but out in the country and with electric heat might work. if you go somewhere where its hot and you have to run ac that could be another problem, but if like a said, if you can fet by with just windows open and no moldy outside air, ? but seems metal would really absorb the heat. maybe not if it's dry and you can park in a shady spot. maybe just depends more on if you can tollerate heat or cold more. I cant tolerate much of either anymore. heat just zap's my energy and cold makes me acke all over. boo, I hate it. I really miss me. > > > who sayd that metals dont condensate or that molds wont eat and grow > > on metals? > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I will never know unless I try. I have to get moving though. I am wasting time and resources where I am currently at. People say Arizona is risky because of the valley fever but I like the way the satellite images look. Practically nothing green in them. My thinking is that outside air here will have the least amounts of mold. On Dec 15, 2007 12:41 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > yes, other than just trying it and seeing, I dont know. the air > outsude here,several times in the year get's pretty moldy. have to > keep windows shut. in winter particles get knocked to the ground from > the moisture in the air, but watch out for the plumes of woodstove > smoke and car pollution. but out in the country and with electric > heat might work. if you go somewhere where its hot and you have to > run ac that could be another problem, but if like a said, if > you can fet by with just windows open and no moldy outside air, ? > but seems metal would really absorb the heat. maybe not if it's dry > and you can park in a shady spot. maybe just depends more on if you > can tollerate heat or cold more. I cant tolerate much of either > anymore. heat just zap's my energy and cold makes me acke all over. > boo, I hate it. I really miss me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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