Re: mary a thought (God talk)

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Dear Adithya,

>> Ah!

>> You still think the dream is real...

> What " dream " you are talking about, ?

The one where " real life " is filled with stress and pain. Where you

depend on so many outer circumstances. The one where your freedom and

inner peace is challenged. The one you call " reality " .

And that's ok.

>>>> why spend any time trying to figure out another person's future

>>>> behavior?

>>> Why do you think many organizations, people, company and agencies

>>> ask for 'Past Record' and 'references'??

>> because they do.

> Then, maybe, same applies to me too.

>

> I do it because I do [sometimes].

Exactly.

And the same applies to your daughter when she does not clean up her

room, of course.

>>> IME...

>>>

>>> This is a good way to hire 'care taker'

>>> of my parents, my house, my children

>>> too!

>>>

>>> This is the way to hire 'security guard'

>>> for my house too!

>>>

>>> This is a good way to hire a 'doctor',

>>> a 'teacher', a 'contractor' too!

>>>

>>> IOW... it is good way to 'determine'

>>> fitness of most 'future' 'relationships " !

>> ...and you still think they are yours.

> I am not sure I understand what you

> mean here.

I'll try to elaborate:

" *your* parents " - what makes them different from other people?

(Apart from your " hi " -story?)

" *your* house " - what makes it different from any other house?

(Apart from your " hi " -story?)

" *your* children " - what makes them different from any other kids? ...

and then:

" *my* health " - what is your proof that it *belongs* to you? (Doesn't

it come and go as it wishes?)

and then:

where's the difference between " children " and " parents " ?

Don't hear that there are no parents, children, properties, etc.

" It's not true " does NOT mean that the opposite IS true.

....

>> Talk about " triggers " ! :-)

> I am not sure I understand what you

> mean here.

I love my kids. And if they smash my stereo, I'll choose to love my

stereo more than my kids for a little while so that I can get angry

at them. That will teach them that smashing other's toys is not a

nice thing to do. And that anger and pain are valid to protect the

dream. And *then* I'll repair the stereo or check it, and find that

nothing is broken, or make something up for the insurance company or

buy a new stereo, or live without one.

That's not where I want to be.

But when they smash the stereo I can still ask them not to do that,

because I think I want that stereo. That will teach them my dream, as

well, but without the anger, frustration, pain and fear. And *then* I

get myself a new stereo.

Sounds more peaceful to me.

As long as I think of " my kids " and " my stereo " the first scenario

seems more likely to me. Because with " posession " there is " loss " .

>>>> Why would you care, it isn't going to be accurate, it won't

>>>> allow you to determine your reaction to that behavior?

>>> Is that a question?

>> I see it as one.

>> My answer is: I don't know.

> Ok.

And I still don't have yours, and that's ok.

Love,

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Dali

I only now, after reading alex's posts

answering you

realized that you have been talking about me

behind my back

shame on you

as I was saying I dont read your posts

cause they are too long for me

I truly only read alex's because I found his mind

clear and he causes me inner shif every once in awhile

I have read all the bad things you have been writing about me

and I hear they dont sound stresful to you

so, you can keep them

I am everything you think I am :-)

but only to you

to me, I am a sweet honest girl

who is in love with a man

and is fearles of expressing her love for him

Tami

(if you want me to read your posts

start them with Tami, ok?)

> > >> I wonder why I have no interest in

> > >> Writing or reading this forum

> > >> This place use to be the center of my life

> > >> Now I have no need anymore

> > >>

> > >> I only read 's posts

> > >> Cause he is wise and clear

> > >

> > > My 'unkind' story:

> > >

> > > you 'say' you only read 's

> > > post because...

> > >

> > > you " think "

> > > you need something from him and

> > > you 'use' this forum in an effort

> > > to get that 'need' met!

> > >

> > > It upsets you when you see

> > > someone or something taking

> > > that 'opportunity' away from

> > > you either by 'excessive' posting

> > > or by doing something that takes

> > > attention away.

> > >

> > >

> > > My another 'unkind' story:

> > >

> > > You are 'very likely' to read

> > > this post in spite of 'claiming'

> > > to read only ''s' posts!

> > >

> > > In 'normal' circumstances, you

> > > might have even replied to this

> > > mail but, now that I mention it,

> > > you may not! However, now, you are

> > > 'very likely' to hold a 'resentment'

> > > against me because of me saying

> > > these 'unkind' [but, probably

> > > true] things about you. You

> > > might even act on that 'resentment'

> > > and do things to 'attack/criticize'

> > > me because of that!

> > >

> > >

> > > Moral of the story:

> > > You seem to

> > > be often 'sucking' up to ! It looks

> > > like 'manipulation' to me.

> > >

> > > You many times complained

> > > of Rose posting too much or

> > > about posting something bad.

> > > I thought you did it only because

> > > you thought they were taking some

> > > 'attention' away from you.

> > >

> > > You also claimed to be a moderator

> > > of this forum which I thought confused

> > > some members because it prompted some members

> > > to go an check the group settings.

> > >

> > > Those are some of my stories about you Tami

> > > and none of them are 'stressful' to me!

> > >

> > > I do think that hearing these stories

> > > of you in my view might be 'unpleasant'

> > > to you as 'crticism' is generally 'unpleasant'

> > > to many people [including me]; however, I honestly

> > > 'think' that I am doing 'good' by telling you and

> > > others all this!

> > >

> > >

> > > As someone [i believe ] said...

> > >

> > > there is no truer freind than one who gives

> > > you his/her totally honest opinion!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >> I might come back soon

> > >> I want to ask for your help

> > >> At combining my tarot card with 's philisofy

> > >>

> > >> Stay tuned

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

This brings new possibilities

You won't have to reinforce yourself, because there is no continuum.

A stereo acts up, you get new stereo. Some kids act up...

It is now the kids' problem. It seems that this works better than the

first option- loose control..

> " *your* parents " - what makes them different from other people?

> (Apart from your " hi " -story?)

> " *your* house " - what makes it different from any other house?

> (Apart from your " hi " -story?)

> " *your* children " - what makes them different from any other kids? ...

> and then:

> " *my* health " - what is your proof that it *belongs* to you? (Doesn't

> it come and go as it wishes?)

> and then:

> where's the difference between " children " and " parents " ?

>

> Don't hear that there are no parents, children, properties, etc.

> " It's not true " does NOT mean that the opposite IS true.

>

> ...

>

> >> Talk about " triggers " ! :-)

> > I am not sure I understand what you

> > mean here.

> I love my kids. And if they smash my stereo, I'll choose to love my

> stereo more than my kids for a little while so that I can get angry

> at them. That will teach them that smashing other's toys is not a

> nice thing to do. And that anger and pain are valid to protect the

> dream. And *then* I'll repair the stereo or check it, and find that

> nothing is broken, or make something up for the insurance company or

> buy a new stereo, or live without one.

>

> That's not where I want to be.

>

> But when they smash the stereo I can still ask them not to do that,

> because I think I want that stereo. That will teach them my dream, as

> well, but without the anger, frustration, pain and fear. And *then* I

> get myself a new stereo.

>

> Sounds more peaceful to me.

>

> As long as I think of " my kids " and " my stereo " the first scenario

> seems more likely to me. Because with " posession " there is " loss " .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am sorry dali

>

> I don't read your posts therefore I was not aware that you where talking

> about me.

>

> I am no longer active in this forum

*** *smilesmile*

no longer active is five postings at once. hm? how (much)is active?

) beautiful tami. :-)ly, lr

> So... The behaviour you can expect from me is

> To be missing

>

> Can you handle it

> Or do you need to do the work?

>

> T

> -- Re: Re: mary a thought (God talk)

>

> >>>> Thank you for your story.

> >>>>

> >>>> And how does it serve *you*?

> >>>>

> >>>> Love,

> >>>>

> >>> Thank you !

> >>> Do you mean to ask,

> >>> how this story serves me?

> >> That was my question, yes.

> > It serves me in judging

> > what kind of behaviour I

> > can 'expect' from Tami in

> > future and if 'required',

> > how can I 'prepare' for it.

> >

> > IOW... it is just a 'tool'

> > of 'prediction'. Useful but,

> > certainly not perfect or error-free!

> You are analyzing... but not your thoughts.

>

> you " prepare " for... what? And what for?

>

> Analyze your reactions and ask yourself who you'd be without your

> thougths.

>

> Love,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> I want to ask for your help

> At combining my tarot card with 's philisofy

It's simple. The way in is the way out. All the rest is a story.

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you like extremes, huh? ; -) lr

> For me active is 25 posts a day

> Not active is 5 posts a week

>

> -- Re: Re: mary a thought (God talk)

> >

> > >>>> Thank you for your story.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> And how does it serve *you*?

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Love,

> > >>>>

> > >>> Thank you !

> > >>> Do you mean to ask,

> > >>> how this story serves me?

> > >> That was my question, yes.

> > > It serves me in judging

> > > what kind of behaviour I

> > > can 'expect' from Tami in

> > > future and if 'required',

> > > how can I 'prepare' for it.

> > >

> > > IOW... it is just a 'tool'

> > > of 'prediction'. Useful but,

> > > certainly not perfect or error-free!

> > You are analyzing... but not your thoughts.

> >

> > you " prepare " for... what? And what for?

> >

> > Analyze your reactions and ask yourself who you'd be without your

> > thougths.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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