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Me, personally, would be totally wigged! My son and I are highly allergic to

mold. It causes asthma in

us.

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lmschatz@...: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:40:59 -0600Subject: Mold

growth

Hi all,Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing in

all your windows......We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It is

a rental property. We have been having a condensation issue since the temps got

cold. On Friday I noticed mold in the windows....contacted my landlord and he

said they would take care of it....all they have done is put in a dehumidifier

and told me to wipe out the mold....Well, Today since the moisture is less, I

tried and it appears that there is mold inbetween the windows as well. I

contacted the Dept of Health who then had me contact the Building inspector. He

is supposed to be here any minute, but I am concerned about and Kaitlyn.

Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ? NEMO etc...I've had more headaches

lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to working nights....Would you

move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting???Thanks for the input. in NDMom to , PID, NOS, with

suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective antibody deficiency, NK cell

defect...

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Yes, get wigged out -- mold exposure can cause permanent brain damage, lung

damage, immune system damage & even death. Indoor mold cannot be " cleaned. "

Amatuer attempts at cleaning mold just spread it. Mold spores indoors have no

natural environmental competition, so they thrive and carry mycotoxins. About

1/3 of the population cannot excrete mycotoxins and instead they permanently

store them in their own fatty organs (primarily the brain). It's more damaging

for kids than adults.

If nobody was suffering, I would say move out at the landlord's expense while

the mold is removed professionally. In your case (you suffering & child with

impaired immune system), I would get out permanently. I would consider having

the mold identified by a lab as you can sue the landlord if either of you suffer

permanent damage.

A simple way to check for damage is to check the blood flow to the optic

nerve. This is compromised when people are exposed to mycotoxins. In adults, a

visual test to see if you can properly discriminate between shades of black and

gray is often used (they usually do this to employees of businesses that are

housed in moldy buildings as they can quickly screen hundreds of employees in a

few hours). For kids, an opthalmologist can sometimes image the optic nerve

(depends on the equipment they have).

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laura smith <iamlaurasmith@...> wrote:

Me, personally, would be totally wigged! My son and I are highly allergic to

mold. It causes asthma in

us.

shwachmansyndrome ; @...:

lmschatz@...: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:40:59 -0600Subject: Mold

growth

Hi all,Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing in

all your windows......We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It is

a rental property. We have been having a condensation issue since the temps got

cold. On Friday I noticed mold in the windows....contacted my landlord and he

said they would take care of it....all they have done is put in a dehumidifier

and told me to wipe out the mold....Well, Today since the moisture is less, I

tried and it appears that there is mold inbetween the windows as well. I

contacted the Dept of Health who then had me contact the Building inspector. He

is supposed to be here any minute, but I am concerned about and Kaitlyn.

Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ? NEMO etc...I've had more headaches

lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to working nights....Would you

move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting???Thanks for the input. in NDMom to ,

PID, NOS, with suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective antibody

deficiency, NK cell defect...[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

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I really appreciate your suggestions....

I contacted my local health department who felt this was a building issue....and

sent a building inspector out.....He said my home is very humid....and that the

mold appears to be just confined to the windows...He has similar issues at his

own home and didn't really see the seriousness of it...

My husband now thinks I'm making a bigger deal out of this. Not sure what my

landlord will say as they minimized this. However, they knew that was

PID, NOS....and I spoke with both the owner and the manager of the building how

serious 's situation could be.

I have left a message with the ID doc that saw us in Sept and have been trying

to get ahold of Dr. O to see if he has any suggestions....without medical

backing, I don't know how I can even push. I am afraid to start cleaning this

up...to make matters worse..

I don't know if I have true symptoms or not, but I know that my eyelids are red

and that happened the last time I was around mold.... is exhibiting some

weird " rash or bumps " but not sure if that is related and the ID nurse didn't

think that it would be related....

This is all so frustrating....

Thanks for the input....any ideas of who else to call???? I may call the County

health department and then the state and see what if anything I can do....

S.

Mold

growth

Hi all,Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing

in all your windows......We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It

is a rental property. We have been having a condensation issue since the temps

got cold. On Friday I noticed mold in the windows....contacted my landlord and

he said they would take care of it....all they have done is put in a

dehumidifier and told me to wipe out the mold....Well, Today since the moisture

is less, I tried and it appears that there is mold inbetween the windows as

well. I contacted the Dept of Health who then had me contact the Building

inspector. He is supposed to be here any minute, but I am concerned about

and Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ? NEMO etc...I've had more

headaches lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to working

nights....Would you move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting???Thanks for the input. in NDMom to ,

PID, NOS, with suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective antibody

deficiency, NK cell defect...[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

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,

I would be extremly wigged out.

Here's the story on Sis, I don't think you've been on here to know her story:

she's now 12 years old.

when she started kindergarten, she would be there Monday, part of Tuesday, the

office would call saying she was not responding to her breathing treatments (she

also has asthma). I'd go pick her up, take her to the pulmonary doc, steriods,

breathing treatments, etc. I'd have her cleared up by Sunday, send her back on

Monday. Same pattern. That was from the end of August of that year until

September 19. September 19 she was admitted to the hosipital. Continuous

breathing treatment, IV antibiotics, a whole caboo of stuff. They did surgery

for a pic line, we did 9 weeks of IV antibiotics with that. They ran a ton of

blood tests. What came back hit us all in the face. She had extremely high

amounts of mold in her system. I grew up in this town, all the teachers kept

tabs on how my dd was doing. When they found out about the mold, it opened up

a tidal wave. The school she was attending was highly infested with mold. The

teachers had complained, they were sick

all the time. A lot quit. Upon talking to the principle though hit a brick

wall. Everyone knew, but all of a sudden no one would admit. The school

district sent an air tester in, came back fine. then someone told me they had a

towel over the intake hole. So of course the tests would come back negative. We

sent our own independant tester in, amazingly the rooms that had the highest

contaminent were locked, and no one could find a key. there are currently six

other kids as sick as Sis. No telling how many others that don't have the

resources to take their kids to the doc. Sis went from 28 lbs that year to 120

lbs. She was on steriods for over six months straight. We've been dealing with

the IVIG infusions for years now. So mold can devastate. I'd be afraid

alright, very afraid.

Lynne' mom to Sis, asthma, Igg def, subclasses, psuedo tumor cerebri, OCD,

etc.

Schatz <lmschatz@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing in all

your windows......

We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It is a rental property. We

have been having a condensation issue since the temps got cold. On Friday I

noticed mold in the windows....contacted my landlord and he said they would take

care of it....all they have done is put in a dehumidifier and told me to wipe

out the mold....

Well, Today since the moisture is less, I tried and it appears that there is

mold inbetween the windows as well. I contacted the Dept of Health who then had

me contact the Building inspector. He is supposed to be here any minute, but I

am concerned about and Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ?

NEMO etc...

I've had more headaches lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to

working nights....

Would you move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting???

Thanks for the input.

in ND

Mom to , PID, NOS, with suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective

antibody deficiency, NK cell defect...

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Thanks Lynne,

Warren thinks I'm way overreacting....but how do we know this is just confined

to the windows....

I am going to try to talk to someone at the health dept today...

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,

I would be extremly wigged out.

Here's the story on Sis, I don't think you've been on here to know her story:

she's now 12 years old.

when she started kindergarten, she would be there Monday, part of Tuesday, the

office would call saying she was not responding to her breathing treatments (she

also has asthma). I'd go pick her up, take her to the pulmonary doc, steriods,

breathing treatments, etc. I'd have her cleared up by Sunday, send her back on

Monday. Same pattern. That was from the end of August of that year until

September 19. September 19 she was admitted to the hosipital. Continuous

breathing treatment, IV antibiotics, a whole caboo of stuff. They did surgery

for a pic line, we did 9 weeks of IV antibiotics with that. They ran a ton of

blood tests. What came back hit us all in the face. She had extremely high

amounts of mold in her system. I grew up in this town, all the teachers kept

tabs on how my dd was doing. When they found out about the mold, it opened up a

tidal wave. The school she was attending was highly infested with mold. The

teachers had complained, they were sick

all the time. A lot quit. Upon talking to the principle though hit a brick

wall. Everyone knew, but all of a sudden no one would admit. The school district

sent an air tester in, came back fine. then someone told me they had a towel

over the intake hole. So of course the tests would come back negative. We sent

our own independant tester in, amazingly the rooms that had the highest

contaminent were locked, and no one could find a key. there are currently six

other kids as sick as Sis. No telling how many others that don't have the

resources to take their kids to the doc. Sis went from 28 lbs that year to 120

lbs. She was on steriods for over six months straight. We've been dealing with

the IVIG infusions for years now. So mold can devastate. I'd be afraid alright,

very afraid.

Lynne' mom to Sis, asthma, Igg def, subclasses, psuedo tumor cerebri, OCD,

etc.

Schatz <lmschatz@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing in all

your windows......

We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It is a rental property.

We have been having a condensation issue since the temps got cold. On Friday I

noticed mold in the windows....contacted my landlord and he said they would take

care of it....all they have done is put in a dehumidifier and told me to wipe

out the mold....

Well, Today since the moisture is less, I tried and it appears that there is

mold inbetween the windows as well. I contacted the Dept of Health who then had

me contact the Building inspector. He is supposed to be here any minute, but I

am concerned about and Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ?

NEMO etc...

I've had more headaches lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to

working nights....

Would you move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting???

Thanks for the input.

in ND

Mom to , PID, NOS, with suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective

antibody deficiency, NK cell defect...

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Did an inspector come out yesterday?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Thanks Lynne,

Warren thinks I'm way overreacting....but how do we know this is just

confined to the windows....

I am going to try to talk to someone at the health dept today...

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We had mold in our house and our kids were and still are sick from it 11 years

later. The kind of mold you are talking about is not a major infestation but it

should not be ignored. I would see if you can get someone to come clean it up.

They usually use a bleach solution.to kill it . The indoor air pollution

authority in WA state came out and found our mold since out kids were so sick.

Look up in your govt pages for the EPA division and they will come out and find

it and tell you what to do . They will take a culture and see if the mold is a

problem mold . One thing is being allergic to mold another thing as someone else

has said is the mycotoxins. This are sent out during the reproductive or growth

cycle to beocome the dominant mold so that is when everyone has a problem with

mold not just due to allergy.

If you can go somewhere until this is taken care of that would be my first

choice. We had no where to go so we became homeless when we found out. I had a

business so we slept there at night until we found a new place and got our

insurance involves. Now adays insurance companies have an exclusion to paying

for it. Our house was only 13 years old and it was a flashing problem. We had it

in our garage but it was next to the furnace. And there were holes in the

furnace so it was getting into the house system. Our kids were very very sick.

But we had growth that was about 6 inches deep and a 12ft by 12ft area. The

important thing is to stay away from the windows until it is cleaned up and if

it is in the windows then they need to be replaced. Sounds like you may need to

find another place to live since there is high humidity in the apartment. This

causes condensation and may not be able to be fixed.

BARBIE

Mold

growth

Hi all,Just wondering how wigged out you would be if you noticed mold growing in

all your windows..... .We are in a brand new house, been here three months. It

is a rental property. We have been having a condensation issue since the temps

got cold. On Friday I noticed mold in the windows....contacte d my landlord and

he said they would take care of it....all they have done is put in a

dehumidifier and told me to wipe out the mold....Well, Today since the moisture

is less, I tried and it appears that there is mold inbetween the windows as

well. I contacted the Dept of Health who then had me contact the Building

inspector. He is supposed to be here any minute, but I am concerned about

and Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has asthma and has ? PID, ? NEMO etc...I've had more

headaches lately and have been tired, but had attributed it to working

nights....Would you move out for a while, till it can be cleaned or am I really

overreacting? ??Thanks for the

input. in NDMom to ,

PID, NOS, with suspected NEMO deficiency of some kind, selective antibody

deficiency, NK cell defect...[Non- text portions of this message have been

removed]

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Yes,

He wasn't too impressed.....said he had similar issue at his own home...Use the

dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

RE: Mold growth

Did an inspector come out yesterday?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Thanks Lynne,

Warren thinks I'm way overreacting....but how do we know this is just

confined to the windows....

I am going to try to talk to someone at the health dept today...

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Keep us posted. Did you get the info I sent ?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Yes,

He wasn't too impressed.....said he had similar issue at his own home...Use

the dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

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Yep....started cleaning....but seems like I can't get it all....Got info from

the state....will keep the county informed and awaiting calls from the Dr's....

RE: Mold growth

Keep us posted. Did you get the info I sent ?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Yes,

He wasn't too impressed.....said he had similar issue at his own home...Use

the dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

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Are you wearing a mask? You should not clean mold with a mask. The only way to

kill it is to use bleach.

BARBIE

RE: Mold growth

Keep us posted. Did you get the info I sent ?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Yes,

He wasn't too impressed... ..said he had similar issue at his own home...Use

the dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

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Yep, got an N95 from work to wear and am using a 10% bleach solution...first

spraying the mold with a light mist, then putting the bleach solution on and

letting it sit about 10-15 minutes, then wiping clean....taking breaks, etc...

Keeping a log of money spent, time spent, who contacted etc....to use with our

landlord....

RE: Mold growth

Keep us posted. Did you get the info I sent ?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Yes,

He wasn't too impressed... ..said he had similar issue at his own home...Use

the dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

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Great JOB. Did you find out the EPA agency? They will come out for free and give

you a report if you need it. Also if you have it cultured you can find out if it

is a danger to humans.

BARBIE

RE: Mold growth

Keep us posted. Did you get the info I sent ?

Peace be with you,

Pattie

Do not think that love, in order to be genuine, has to be extraordinary.

What we need is to love without getting tired. ~Mother

Yes,

He wasn't too impressed... ..said he had similar issue at his own home...Use

the dehumidifier. clean, get rid of moisture...

Should be okay...Not sure if I buy it....

I'll update later.

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  • 4 weeks later...

You can actually test yourself and see what you were exposed to. Certain IgE or

is it IGg test's for mold against your own anti-bodys. Also start asking if

there have been any previous testing of the building. They have to share it if

there are medical conditions. That's how I found out anyway.

Hope that helps

a

happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: Would

anyone have an " educated guess " at how long it would take for a

mold infected wall to produce a growth of a " Solid " Black-Green-Yellow

slimey area of 3ft long by 2ft high by 3-4 inch thickness? this area

was found when a cabinet was pulled away from the wall. It was located

in a small room about 6ft by 12 ft. And.... how would I find out what

type of mold it is, if it's in a " Privately Owned Place of Buisness "

that I can no longer expose my self to, and the health dept. and local

authorities want no part of it, so thats not an option, nor does the

Company itself, want to admit it was ever there to begin with. They cut

out and patched in a new piece of wall. Would I need a Court Order?

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