Re: Toxic Mold: The True Cause of Sickness - This is a must read!

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

received was how to contact them for a free consultation. However,

the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and their

services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is because

EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

without cross-contaminating.

So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't agree

with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill the

current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-present

mold from growing on the same spot.

So what good is the warranty?

Do you have any information I missed?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

>

> If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> illnesses.

>

> Dana

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carl, thanks for looking into this. I had also read more into their website, and

with some other input from someone else I had decided not to put their video's

on my website.. Darlene

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Dana,

Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

received was how to contact them for a free consultation. However,

the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and their

services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is because

EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

without cross-contaminating.

So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't agree

with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill the

current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-present

mold from growing on the same spot.

So what good is the warranty?

Do you have any information I missed?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

>

> If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> illnesses.

>

> Dana

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carl,

Thank you for commenting on this and clarifying some things. I have

spoken to Larry and his son several times and it seemed

to me all I ended up getting was a sales pitch. You know, me,me,me,

I, I, I. I was not overly impressed, especially after sending them

a client that was absolutely not pleased with them that all. That

was the last time.

KC

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> Dana,

>

> Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

> after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

> received was how to contact them for a free consultation. However,

> the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and

their

> services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

> mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

because

> EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

> emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

> without cross-contaminating.

>

> So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

> only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

> expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

>

> They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't

agree

> with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

> certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

> void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill

the

> current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

present

> mold from growing on the same spot.

>

> So what good is the warranty?

>

> Do you have any information I missed?

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

>

> > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> >

> > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > illnesses.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

But he has a book out about mold that I was referring to, not

necessarily the website in this case. I was aware that he is located

in Atlanta and is a mold company that also has products for sale.

maybe someone who lives in Atlanta that needs someone to come in an

inspect or help get rid of the mold would appreciate me posting this.

Dana

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> Dana,

>

> Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

> after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

> received was how to contact them for a free consultation. However,

> the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and their

> services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

> mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

because

> EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

> emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

> without cross-contaminating.

>

> So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

> only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

> expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

>

> They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't agree

> with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

> certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

> void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill

the

> current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

present

> mold from growing on the same spot.

>

> So what good is the warranty?

>

> Do you have any information I missed?

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

>

> > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> >

> > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > illnesses.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OK so lets clarify. I was not referring this website, per say, just

the book by Mr. and the videos that are on the site about

mold. If they have bad business I would not know that, I do not live

in Atlanta and have never used their services and I never recommend

that people do not research things before they trust any business.

It was simply info. and another book to look into further if you wish

to.

Dana

> >

> > Dana,

> >

> > Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

> > after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

> > received was how to contact them for a free consultation.

However,

> > the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and

> their

> > services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

> > mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

> because

> > EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

> > emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

> > without cross-contaminating.

> >

> > So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

> > only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

> > expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

> >

> > They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't

> agree

> > with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

> > certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

> > void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill

> the

> > current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

> present

> > mold from growing on the same spot.

> >

> > So what good is the warranty?

> >

> > Do you have any information I missed?

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> >

> > > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> > >

> > > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > > illnesses.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Please don't take it personally. We are all learning daily. There is

no way even the best of the best can know everything about these

companies, etc., etc. By you posting this is how we learn and who we

can trust. I've posted many websites, not because of the product or

their business, but because I just found the article interesting. If

someone takes the initative to do a background check and a little

more, this always helps tremendously. Many don't have the time to do

that. But we are always grateful when someone does. We tend to jump

when we find new information or a website, including myself, but

fail to investigate further. I guess this helps prevent us from

losing hope and that's all this is about.Hope.

I do live in the Atlanta area and I thank you for posting the link.

But I am also familiar with this company and the clients that they

failed.

KC

> > >

> > > Dana,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say

that

> > > after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information

I

> > > received was how to contact them for a free consultation.

> However,

> > > the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and

> > their

> > > services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding

to

> > > mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

> > because

> > > EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather

they

> > > emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the

mold

> > > without cross-contaminating.

> > >

> > > So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They

have

> > > only one office so any inspections or remediations include

travel

> > > expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

> > >

> > > They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't

> > agree

> > > with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer

a

> > > certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee

is

> > > void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they

kill

> > the

> > > current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

> > present

> > > mold from growing on the same spot.

> > >

> > > So what good is the warranty?

> > >

> > > Do you have any information I missed?

> > >

> > > Carl Grimes

> > > Healthy Habitats LLC

> > >

> > > -----

> > >

> > > > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> > > >

> > > > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > > > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > > > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > > > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > > > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > > > illnesses.

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I think its interesting how many people are trying to take advantage of the

national disconnect on mold to make money on people's lack of knowledge.

There are ways to help the situation morally, while making money,

and ways which I think are OvertlyExploitative

Its not always obvious which is which.

On Nov 16, 2007 5:22 PM, gsgrl2000 <gsgrl2000@...> wrote:

>

>

> But he has a book out about mold that I was referring to, not

> necessarily the website in this case. I was aware that he is located

> in Atlanta and is a mold company that also has products for sale.

> maybe someone who lives in Atlanta that needs someone to come in an

> inspect or help get rid of the mold would appreciate me posting this.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

> >

>

> > Dana,

> >

> > Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say that

> > after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information I

> > received was how to contact them for a free consultation. However,

> > the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and their

> > services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding to

> > mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

> because

> > EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather they

> > emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the mold

> > without cross-contaminating.

> >

> > So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They have

> > only one office so any inspections or remediations include travel

> > expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

> >

> > They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't agree

> > with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer a

> > certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee is

> > void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they kill

> the

> > current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

> present

> > mold from growing on the same spot.

> >

> > So what good is the warranty?

> >

> > Do you have any information I missed?

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> >

> > > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> > >

> > > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > > illnesses.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I'll echo KC's comments and apologize if you were offended by my

post. As KC said there are lots of posts for info, Web sites and

other info. Sometimes those posting the info are actually promoting

their products under the disguise of helpful info. I haven't checked

the book so I can't comment on that but I should have been

more clear about why I posted. Thank you for responding and

clarifying as communication is how we all learn and correct

misunderstandings.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Dana,

>

> Please don't take it personally. We are all learning daily. There is

> no way even the best of the best can know everything about these

> companies, etc., etc. By you posting this is how we learn and who we

> can trust. I've posted many websites, not because of the product or

> their business, but because I just found the article interesting. If

> someone takes the initative to do a background check and a little

> more, this always helps tremendously. Many don't have the time to do

> that. But we are always grateful when someone does. We tend to jump

> when we find new information or a website, including myself, but

> fail to investigate further. I guess this helps prevent us from

> losing hope and that's all this is about.Hope.

>

> I do live in the Atlanta area and I thank you for posting the link.

> But I am also familiar with this company and the clients that they

> failed.

>

> KC

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Dana,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the link and info on Larry . But I must say

> that

> > > > after reviewing the Web site the only substantive information

> I

> > > > received was how to contact them for a free consultation.

> > However,

> > > > the free consultation is a sales pitch for their products and

> > > their

> > > > services. They also say the EPA recommendations for responding

> to

> > > > mold issues is " outdated. " My best guess for that judgment is

> > > because

> > > > EPA does not advocate the use of chemicals on mold. Rather

> they

> > > > emphasize stopping the moisture and physically removing the

> mold

> > > > without cross-contaminating.

> > > >

> > > > So I called the number and spoke to Larry 's son. They

> have

> > > > only one office so any inspections or remediations include

> travel

> > > > expenses from Atlanta, GA, which is not practical.

> > > >

> > > > They do recommend removal of mold, which is good, but I don't

> > > agree

> > > > with their emphasis on disinfecting (killing) mold. They offer

> a

> > > > certificate of guarantee but like all the others the guarantee

> is

> > > > void if the location gets wet again. Their rationale is they

> kill

> > > the

> > > > current mold so it can't grow back but can't stop the always-

> > > present

> > > > mold from growing on the same spot.

> > > >

> > > > So what good is the warranty?

> > > >

> > > > Do you have any information I missed?

> > > >

> > > > Carl Grimes

> > > > Healthy Habitats LLC

> > > >

> > > > -----

> > > >

> > > > > http://www.aenvirocure.com/pages/INDEX.HTML

> > > > >

> > > > > If link does not work simply go to aenvirocure.com

> > > > > I saw Larry on a tv program speaking about what

> > > > > he endured 35 years ago by the government about

> > > > > getting the word out to doctors, etc. about mold

> > > > > illnesses as being the cause for most all other

> > > > > illnesses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dana

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >