Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Dr. Thrasher, Thank you so much for responding to my concerns. I will be talking with you privately on the issues at hand a little later. My having a farm acre of mold in this building in the HVAC system, etc. and illnesses from the mold, just made me wonder if there are any added vapor's from the formaldehyde adding to the equation. Darlene " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote: Darlene: you have raised some excellent questions. I will answer them one at a time. Generally, cabinets are made from medium density fiber board for the shelving. Many years ago thye used particle board. Depending upon the source of the fabricated wood products they were glued to gether with either or both ureaformaldehyde or phenolformaldehyde resins. The ureaformaldehyde resin is very unstable and easily hydrolyzes at room temperature and elevated humidity releasing formaldehyde. Phenolformaldehyde is very stable and releases very small amount of formaldehyde. One can test for formaldehyde. Kits are available for formaldehyde testing via the internet. There is available a relatively inexpensive passive monitor. The are hung from the ceiling, door jam, etc. allowed to gather the gas and then are sent to a laboratory for analysis. The amount of formaldehyde decreases with time. The major part of releasing occurs in the first two years of product life. The coating on the surface of the board does cause a reduction in the amount of formaldehyde that is released. Distinguishing between the two illnesses is the difficult part. Also, you must know that microbial growth (mold and bacteria) also produce formaldehyde and other aldehydes that are part of MVOC. A detailed health and exposure history would have to be taken in attempt to distinguish between the two. Also, it would probably be necessary to test for the presence of mycotoxins, urine and mold in sinuses. Me for one I would probably have to accept that presence of the two and clearly state that both exposures are contributing to the illness. IIlness from formaldehyde took years to be acceped and is no longer disputed. Look where mold exposure is today. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 If someone has a severe allergy to formaldehyde (since childhood), what effect would that hvae if they were exposed to mold? Would they be more susceptible to the health efects of mold? [] Re:Additional concerns: regarding formaldehyde Darlene: you have raised some excellent questions. I will answer them one at a time. Generally, cabinets are made from medium density fiber board for the shelving. Many years ago thye used particle board. Depending upon the source of the fabricated wood products they were glued to gether with either or both ureaformaldehyde or phenolformaldehyde resins. The ureaformaldehyde resin is very unstable and easily hydrolyzes at room temperature and elevated humidity releasing formaldehyde. Phenolformaldehyde is very stable and releases very small amount of formaldehyde. One can test for formaldehyde. Kits are available for formaldehyde testing via the internet. There is available a relatively inexpensive passive monitor. The are hung from the ceiling, door jam, etc. allowed to gather the gas and then are sent to a laboratory for analysis. The amount of formaldehyde decreases with time. The major part of releasing occurs in the first two years of product life. The coating on the surface of the board does cause a reduction in the amount of formaldehyde that is released. Distinguishing between the two illnesses is the difficult part. Also, you must know that microbial growth (mold and bacteria) also produce formaldehyde and other aldehydes that are part of MVOC. A detailed health and exposure history would have to be taken in attempt to distinguish between the two. Also, it would probably be necessary to test for the presence of mycotoxins, urine and mold in sinuses. Me for one I would probably have to accept that presence of the two and clearly state that both exposures are contributing to the illness. IIlness from formaldehyde took years to be acceped and is no longer disputed. Look where mold exposure is today. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 OK..maybe I missed something but how does urine get in the sinuses???? <SNIP> Also, it > would probably be necessary to test for the presence > of mycotoxins, urine and mold in sinuses. Me for > one I would probably have to accept that presence of > the two and clearly state that both exposures are > contributing to the illness. IIlness from > formaldehyde took years to be acceped and is no > longer disputed. Look where mold exposure is today. > Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Jackie, my opinion is that, I think he meant test for mycotoxins in the urine, on that part, correct me if I am wrong Dr. Thrasher. Darlene J <jackiebreeze@...> wrote: OK..maybe I missed something but how does urine get in the sinuses???? <SNIP> Also, it > would probably be necessary to test for the presence > of mycotoxins, urine and mold in sinuses. Me for > one I would probably have to accept that presence of > the two and clearly state that both exposures are > contributing to the illness. IIlness from > formaldehyde took years to be acceped and is no > longer disputed. Look where mold exposure is today. > Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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